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by JoeMemphis
Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:34 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state
Replies: 176
Views: 1522

Re: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state

gounion wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:51 pm Translation: "I've got nothin'!"
You truly don’t.
by JoeMemphis
Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:45 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state
Replies: 176
Views: 1522

Re: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state

It WASN'T an answer, it was a deflection. Nothing more. Not a direct answer at all. You basically said that they'd handle it. But if you have to treat all religions the same, they have to fund everyone. Something you won't address. Not surprised. Our established religion is Christian Nationalism. D...
by JoeMemphis
Thu Jun 23, 2022 5:57 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state
Replies: 176
Views: 1522

Re: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state

Joe, you didn't answer anything. Here's the deal - Indoctrination of religious dogma has no place in the schools of this nation. That's very clear. You can't force kids to pray. You can't teach "creationism" because it's not science, it's not factual. There is no place in publicly-funded ...
by JoeMemphis
Thu Jun 23, 2022 5:08 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state
Replies: 176
Views: 1522

Re: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state

The problem is that this educator is a far-right religious organization that is teaching religion. Now, there are SOME religious schools that might be okay. I understand you can get a high-quality education at many Jesuit institutions, and they don't shove their religion down your throat. Of course...
by JoeMemphis
Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:41 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: The LGBTQ Rights Thread.
Replies: 68
Views: 891

Re: The LGBTQ Rights Thread.

I’ve seen a number of 7 footers who have no advantage. The sport functions quite normally with the big men. That 7 footer can’t stop the deadly three shooter. There is no unfair advantage here. The biological advantage a skilled male athlete has over a skilled female athlete in undeniable. The FINA...
by JoeMemphis
Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:37 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state
Replies: 176
Views: 1522

Re: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state

Me of all people has been teaching on this subject for years. Me knows that many American colonists came to these shores seeking freedom from the tyranny of the Anglican Church, like the Puritans, and then when they established their colonies, turned around and denied it to others. Like the Quakers...
by JoeMemphis
Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:46 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state
Replies: 176
Views: 1522

Re: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state

gounion wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:20 pm we now have an established state religion.
Just so we all know. What is the established religion and whose is the head?
by JoeMemphis
Wed Jun 22, 2022 6:34 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state
Replies: 176
Views: 1522

Re: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state

I am not pretending I haven't taken a previous position. I have. It's just not relevant to the SCOTUS decision we're discussing. Oh, and one more thing, to make a point clear, re accreditation. This varies by state, but I'll note what the state of Florida says. https://www.fldoe.org/schools/school-...
by JoeMemphis
Wed Jun 22, 2022 6:09 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state
Replies: 176
Views: 1522

Re: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state

I have no problem with the government funding schools that teach religion, so long as they cannot discriminate. If the government is sending funding directly, or indirectly (eg: vouchers) to a school, I think it fair that that school not be allowed to discriminate. That means accepting all students...
by JoeMemphis
Wed Jun 22, 2022 6:06 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state
Replies: 176
Views: 1522

Re: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state

ProfX wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:45 pm It's a separate question, and one I have answered in the past; that answer has nothing to do with THIS topic of THIS thread, so I'm uninterested in providing it again.
I think I know the answer.
by JoeMemphis
Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:31 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state
Replies: 176
Views: 1522

Re: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state

37 states disagree with you. 37 states have Blaine Amendments blocking public funds from religious schools in their constitutions https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/37-states-have-blaine-amendments-blocking-public-funds-from-religious-schools-in-their-constitutions/article_5624e55e-c792-11ea-...
by JoeMemphis
Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:22 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state
Replies: 176
Views: 1522

Re: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: You don't even know what the term means. But you can't deal with the actual story, so you have to make some shit up that has nothing to do with it. You may think it's clever, but it just shows you can't deal with things on an adult level. So you like the governme...
by JoeMemphis
Wed Jun 22, 2022 2:36 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state
Replies: 176
Views: 1522

Re: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state

gounion wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:36 pm And that is a non-sequitur. Look it up. It has nothing to do with the Supreme Court decision.

But you had no idea WHAT the decision was, so you said something stupid.
You made the statement as if I said something I never said. If it’s a non-sequitur then it belongs to you.
by JoeMemphis
Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:16 am
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state
Replies: 176
Views: 1522

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If it isn't, can you explain how it would be Constitutional not to also fund Muslim schools? After all, that's the principle - if you fund one type of religious education, you must fund them all. The issue did not come up in Maine as Maine does not have enough Muslims in it to have such a school, b...
by JoeMemphis
Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:53 am
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state
Replies: 176
Views: 1522

Re: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state

Read what he said, and explain it. He started off stating that we were keeping kids from going to school. He obviously doesn’t understand the news story, or anything about it. Do you? For someone who prides himself on his reading skills, he sure has trouble reading. Nowhere did I say anyone was kee...
by JoeMemphis
Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:31 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state
Replies: 176
Views: 1522

Re: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state

Let's be clear: The STANDARD that has been set is that you can't teach religion on the government dime. That's called Separation of Church and State. And the Supreme Court just knocked down that standard, and said the government has to fund religious education, even if it's anti-gay. And you suppor...
by JoeMemphis
Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:20 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state
Replies: 176
Views: 1522

Re: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state

Am I anti gay? No. Am I for school choice? Yes. I don’t personally agree with everything that goes on in public schools. I don’t personally agree with everything taught in private schools. That doesn’t mean I don’t think they should be funded. That doesn’t mean that I will like or agree with the ch...
by JoeMemphis
Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:17 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state
Replies: 176
Views: 1522

Re: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state

Again, this school in this case is very anti-gay. So, you are for the government funding this, yes? Am I anti gay? No. Am I for school choice? Yes. I don’t personally agree with everything that goes on in public schools. I don’t personally agree with everything taught in private schools. That doesn...
by JoeMemphis
Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:04 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state
Replies: 176
Views: 1522

Re: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state

Do you think schools that teach that homosexuality is sinful and horrible are providing a good education? One that the government should be paying for? How about things like creationism? Or faith healing? The government can set reasonable academic standards and the rest is up to the parents. It’s b...
by JoeMemphis
Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:49 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state
Replies: 176
Views: 1522

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But religious education isn't public education. Too bad you can't understand the difference. So you'd be fine with the government funding anti-US Muslim Madrassas? Bullshit. I’m good with a quality education. Matters not to me who delivers the service as long as the objective is achieved. I am not ...
by JoeMemphis
Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:37 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state
Replies: 176
Views: 1522

Re: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state

Although understanding its actual meaning wouldn't impact opponents in any way, "Madrassa" translates to "school", or "place of education", at least within the Arabic world. It does mean something different to the west and I recognize that that is the one being used he...
by JoeMemphis
Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:34 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state
Replies: 176
Views: 1522

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And you're welcome to send your children where you want. But if it's not a public school, you can pay for it out of your own pocket. I would think, as a conservative, you know, a by-your-bootstraps, anti-government interference type, you wouldn't WANT the government funding your kid's education any...
by JoeMemphis
Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:20 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state
Replies: 176
Views: 1522

Re: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state

What are the rules on funding religious activity with Federal money? https://www.hhs.gov/answers/grants-and-contracts/what-are-the-rules-on-funding-religious-activity-with-federal-money/index.html The United States Supreme Court has said that faith-based organizations may not use direct government ...
by JoeMemphis
Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:10 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state
Replies: 176
Views: 1522

Re: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state

That never seems to work when it's funding Planned Parenthood. We fund Catholic schools here. The trade-off, of course, is that they have to accept all students regardless of religion. Before the funding change, they did not. My son goes to a Catholic school even though we do not follow any religio...
by JoeMemphis
Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:51 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state
Replies: 176
Views: 1522

Re: Supreme Court breaks down wall between church and state

Once you open the funding door for education choice you don’t get to stop the hate filled pustule. The amendment is clear, you can’t discriminate. It’s their choice not the state. The state failed to provide the public option. It doesn’t get to discriminate on the choice made by the family. No diff...