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Actually, that's wrong. The House can't do SHIT until a Speaker is chosen. They can't vote on ANYTHING else. They can't even give anyone the oath of office. Show me where in the constitution it say that the house can’t do anything until a speaker is chosen. And the the constitution doesn’t require ...

They have until January 13th to elect a Speaker before to prevent staff from not getting paid. https://www.politico.com/news/2022/12/29/house-committee-staff-pay-speaker-decision-00075801 That starts the first pay period. First checks get cut mid February. And there’s nothing stopping the house fro...

Number6 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:40 pm Like what?

So you're saying I can get a patent for a time machine or a Star Trek-like transporter?

https://www.discovermagazine.com/techno ... ally-exist

But if a company hasn't developed the widget or process then can it get a patent on something that doesn't exist? I think agreements prohibiting employees from using their previous company's proprietary/intellectual property is reasonable. I don't think employees should be prohibited from working f...

Number6 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:18 pm From my understanding, the only ones not getting paid will be those in the House and those who work for the House.

The first checks don’t get cut until mid February. It’ll be fixed by then.

A resolution is only the expression of the House and doesn't pass legislation, make any investigations, or does any of the ordinary work of the House. They can pass a resolution declaring they will write and pass legislation. They are free to do as they please. As long as it within the constitution.

Live video of Kevin McCarthy trying to be elected Speaker of the House. https://youtu.be/StZ5DesM3cY Always thought that one of the better pieces of subtle humor from Mel Blanc and Warner Brothers. A lisping Daffy Duck as British hero Robin Hood shouting “Yikes and away” when the ever so proper Bri...

There is one fallacy that people are currently operating under. That congress can’t act without a speaker. Not true. They can pass any resolution they want.

The 2023 federal budget was passed and signed by Biden so most of the federal government will still work. However, until a Speaker is elected the representatives cannot do their work until the Speaker administers to them the oath of office. This also means the House cannot process payments to its s...

Nope. Because they've never had the ability to shut down the government without pushback. Now they do. And it's what you voted for. No they don’t. There would be a ton of pushback. They know a long shutdown is suicide. They’d be out for a decade. And expect Gaetz, Boebert, and company to get primar...

So, no budget in Sept 2023, and we can wait with no government for, what, 15 months? I can go without a retirement check for several months, but many people can't. And workers can't work for a year and 3 months on promissory notes. But I knew you'd defend a shutdown. There won’t be a 15 month shutd...

gounion wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:13 am He's then out and it will take 218 to bring him back.

And we didn't have the nutjobs then that we do now. But hey, they're YOUR nutjobs so you're going to deflect for them, aren't you?

He’s not out on a motion to vacate.

If there is no budget for a prolonged time, YES, the government will shut down. Checks won’t go out, most all government will shut down. And that’s the plan. No budget at all coming out of Congress. If the Speaker doesn’t allow a bill on the floor, there is no budget. Then Democrats will regain the...

The problem they’re setting up is that IF McCarthy gets in, he’s promised one member can make the motion to vacate. They want to demand from the Dems to gut Social Security and Medicare, among other things. If the Dems refuse, and McCarthy sets up a budget that can be passed with the Dems and a few...

gounion wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:36 pm You’d love to see the government shut down, wouldn’t you?

I’m smart enough to know this doesn’t shut down government. 2.1 million federal employees keep things going nicely. I appreciate their work.

But it is fun to see the clowns of congress in action.

Go for 134.

bradman wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 8:39 pm Heheheheh...........

Seth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-DhLetLxyM

At least go to 10:30 in. Hannity's ready to pop a a cork.

How would you explain to Hannity, 'ya reap what ya sow'.

They should go for the record. 134 votes.

Very bad idea but not surprised it comes from the anti business party. Years ago I was leased to an LTL company that decided to open in Charlotte. They hired 2 sales people from Roadway and had them poach their existing customers from Roadway. There are a lot of non compete abuses. And there are le...

During a basketball game the assistant coaches were chirping at the officials. Constantly disagreeing with calls and vocalizing displeasure with no-calls. Nothing rising to the level of a technical foul, but something that needed to be addressed by the officials because only head coaches are suppos...

gounion wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:33 am

So exactly WHY will they tire of it?

Those disrupters are the ones salivating at the prospect of committee oversight hearings. And blocking election of a speaker will keep that from happening

gounion wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:22 am Dems in control are the ONLY way to have a functioning government.

But then, that's not what Republicans want, is it?

It’s five crazy disrupters and 10 or so who just want someone different than McCarthy. If this drags on long enough both sides will tire of it.

You don't get it (probably on purpose). They aren't interested in a functioning government. They want to be AGAINST. And this huge far-right machinery would be working against EVERY Republican that voted to change the rule. Just like all the Republicans that voted to impeach Trump are no longer in ...

gounion wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:11 am They have no reason to cave. If this were to happen (it won't), then they would be vindicated about the "uniparty" and REALLY be able to fund raise.

If there’s a resolution for a plurality vote they’d have a big reason to cave. Hakeem Jeffries as speaker.

gounion wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:03 pm Then Jeffries would be Speaker.

I doubt the 19 or 20 outliers would let that happen. It would force enough of them to cave.

And if they didn’t then yes, Jeffries would be speaker.

If it goes on long enough and they get tired enough they can pass a resolution to accept a plurality vote and be done with it.

All the stock was broken up too. So, no it wasn't. It was just split and the ownership stayed the same. And I'm betting the stockholders didn't lose a dime, especially in the long run, now, did they? Rockefeller wasn't concerned when Standard Oil was broken up. He didn't lose money. He famously sai...