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So, a surprise come-from-behind GOP congressional candidate in New York turns out to be like most other Republicans - he's a lying sack of shit. But maybe to a greater degree than most. Donald Trump would love him. Via the NYT:
George Santos, whose election to Congress on Long Island last month helped Republicans clinch a narrow majority in the House of Representatives, built his candidacy on the notion that he was the “full embodiment of the American dream” and was running to safeguard it for others.

His campaign biography amplified his storybook journey: He is the son of Brazilian immigrants, and the first openly gay Republican to win a House seat as a non-incumbent. By his account, he catapulted himself from a New York City public college to become a “seasoned Wall Street financier and investor” with a family-owned real estate portfolio of 13 properties and an animal rescue charity that saved more than 2,500 dogs and cats.

But a New York Times review of public documents and court filings from the United States and Brazil, as well as various attempts to verify claims that Mr. Santos, 34, made on the campaign trail, calls into question key parts of the résumé that he sold to voters.

Citigroup and Goldman Sachs, the marquee Wall Street firms on Mr. Santos’s campaign biography, told The Times they had no record of his ever working there. Officials at Baruch College, which Mr. Santos has said he graduated from in 2010, could find no record of anyone matching his name and date of birth graduating that year.

There was also little evidence that his animal rescue group, Friends of Pets United, was, as Mr. Santos claimed, a tax-exempt organization: The Internal Revenue Service could locate no record of a registered charity with that name.

His financial disclosure forms suggest a life of some wealth. He lent his campaign more than $700,000 during the midterm election, has donated thousands of dollars to other candidates in the last two years and reported a $750,000 salary and over $1 million in dividends from his company, the Devolder Organization.

Yet the firm, which has no public website or LinkedIn page, is something of a mystery. On a campaign website, Mr. Santos once described Devolder as his “family’s firm” that managed $80 million in assets. On his congressional financial disclosure, he described it as a capital introduction consulting company, a type of boutique firm that serves as a liaison between investment funds and deep-pocketed investors. But Mr. Santos’s disclosures did not reveal any clients, an omission three election law experts said could be problematic if such clients exist.

And while Mr. Santos has described a family fortune in real estate, he has not disclosed, nor could The Times find, records of his properties.
And what will the GOP do about it? Of course, not a damned thing.
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I don't care who the person is or what party they belong to, when they make a phony resume to get elected to a public office or even just to get a job they are telling you they can't be trusted. I don't know if he broke any law but if he did he should be prosecuted, convicted, and removed from office.
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five minutes is all it would have taken for the DNC to find all this out.

That they did not is maddening. OF COURSE the media, which goes out of its way to NEVER disclose on the GOP, didnt.
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But it is ok for Blumenthal to lie about Vietnam.
You people are hypocrites one and all.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 4:27 pm But it is ok for Blumenthal to lie about Vietnam.
You people are hypocrites one and all.
I knew it. Nothing that a Republican can do that Republicans would have a problem with. Nothing at all.
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Number6 wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 4:05 pm I don't care who the person is or what party they belong to, when they make a phony resume to get elected to a public office or even just to get a job they are telling you they can't be trusted. I don't know if he broke any law but if he did he should be prosecuted, convicted, and removed from office.
I’m pretty sure the House of Representatives are the only ones who can remove him.
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Bludogdem wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 5:11 pm I’m pretty sure the House of Representatives are the only ones who can remove him.
And your party will do nothing. After all, when Trump is your hero, there’s nothing you won’t accept. He’ll probably get a standing ovation from the GOP.
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gounion wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 5:17 pm And your party will do nothing. After all, when Trump is your hero, there’s nothing you won’t accept. He’ll probably get a standing ovation from the GOP.
DId any board cons call out MTG or Boebert or Gaetz not standing for Zelensky, thus showing support for our enemy?
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gounion wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 4:41 pm I knew it. Nothing that a Republican can do that Republicans would have a problem with. Nothing at all.
Wrong again unlike you who have a double standard I believe both should be removed from office.
If I was a hypocrite I would excuse one and be " outraged" about the other.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 7:14 pm Wrong again unlike you who have a double standard I believe both should be removed from office.
If I was a hypocrite I would excuse one and be " outraged" about the other.
No you don’t. You defended him. You’re fine with ANYONE who has an (R) behind their name. I mean, they just passed a bill supporting molested children, written by two dems along with YOUR SENATOR, Lindsey Graham along with Ted Cruz, and your Congressman, Ralph Norman, voted AGAINST the bill.

And you’ll happily vote for Norman in 2024.
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gounion wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 7:17 pm No you don’t. You defended him. You’re fine with ANYONE who has an (R) behind their name. I mean, they just passed a bill supporting molested children, written by two dems along with YOUR SENATOR, Lindsey Graham along with Ted Cruz, and your Congressman, Ralph Norman, voted AGAINST the bill.

And you’ll happily vote for Norman in 2024.
Of course he will, owning the libs (i.e. behaving like a child) is ALL that matters to him.

Oh wait, that and making sure rich people dont have to pay taxes. :roll:
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 4:27 pm But it is ok for Blumenthal to lie about Vietnam.
You people are hypocrites one and all.
Blumenthal did lie. He claimed he misspoke which of course is typical of politicians. He was in the reserves and did not do any tours in Vietnam.

But your response is nothing more than what I would expect from you. Whataboutery is one of your main playing cards. So let us look a little closer. Santos has completely fabricated his life story. Blumenthal did not. Yet all we heard out of your piehole is whataboutery and nothing about Santos.

So, what is your opinion about Santos? Don’t reach for the whataboutery card as that has been removed from the deck.
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Number6 wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 4:05 pm I don't care who the person is or what party they belong to, when they make a phony resume to get elected to a public office or even just to get a job they are telling you they can't be trusted. I don't know if he broke any law but if he did he should be prosecuted, convicted, and removed from office.
i dunno..........Where i came from a phony resume would get ya drummed out of the sand box with no court needed.
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It's becoming increasingly clear that it's hard to find something Santos wasn't lying about. Even his staffers were lying about their activities.

I guess in a different age this would trigger an Ethics investigation; these days, jaded voters and reps just shrug. :|
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Yeah, what’s crazy is that he may be lying about being gay, too. He’s said he’s been openly gay for years and years. Yet he got divorced from a woman in 2019.
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bradman wrote: Sat Dec 24, 2022 7:12 am i dunno..........Where i came from a phony resume would get ya drummed out of the sand box with no court needed.
Well, we don’t need a court. The House can remove him. I suspect there will be back channel negotiations to get another republican appointed to replace him.
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ProfX wrote: Sat Dec 24, 2022 9:53 am It's becoming increasingly clear that it's hard to find something Santos wasn't lying about. Even his staffers were lying about their activities.

I guess in a different age this would trigger an Ethics investigation; these days, jaded voters and reps just shrug. :|
Give it some time.
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Bludogdem wrote: Sat Dec 24, 2022 10:01 am Well, we don’t need a court. The House can remove him. I suspect there will be back channel negotiations to get another republican appointed to replace him.
First, the GOP House won’t remove him because, second, there would have to be another election.

So they won’t do a damned thing. Criminality is perfectly acceptable in the GOP.
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gounion wrote: Sat Dec 24, 2022 10:03 am First, the GOP House won’t remove him because, second, there would have to be another election.

So they won’t do a damned thing. Criminality is perfectly acceptable in the GOP.
Yeah I'm with you Gou there's no way McCarthy will ever remove Santos from that seat but if there's a chance that happens i personally don't want Jay Jacobs to pick a weak ass candidate to run for that district if there is a special election since he the GOP Judge & Machinima fucked us over with the gerrymandering map mess.
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Bludogdem wrote: Sat Dec 24, 2022 10:01 am Well, we don’t need a court. The House can remove him. I suspect there will be back channel negotiations to get another republican appointed to replace him.
That ain't happening for three reasons:

1. McCarthy and the republicans wouldn't remove him unless he was a Democrat.

2. It would require two-thirds of the members of the House to remove him and there aren't enough republicans who would vote to remove him.
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bird wrote: Sat Dec 24, 2022 6:35 am Blumenthal did lie. He claimed he misspoke which of course is typical of politicians. He was in the reserves and did not do any tours in Vietnam.

But your response is nothing more than what I would expect from you. Whataboutery is one of your main playing cards. So let us look a little closer. Santos has completely fabricated his life story. Blumenthal did not. Yet all we heard out of your piehole is whataboutery and nothing about Santos.

So, what is your opinion about Santos? Don’t reach for the whataboutery card as that has been removed from the deck.
Did Santos claim to have won international awards, finish near the top of his class, earn 3 degrees, have a full ride scholarship, turned down an appointment to Annapolis.

Whataboutery? How about hypocrobatery
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gounion wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 4:41 pm I knew it. Nothing that a Republican can do that Republicans would have a problem with. Nothing at all.
See my previous post and answer why is it OK for Biden to lie about his academic record.
Imo all three should not be in office.
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Glennfs wrote: Sun Dec 25, 2022 6:46 am See my previous post and answer why is it OK for Biden to lie about his academic record.
Imo all three should not be in office.
Wow. The things you do to defend your side. Pro tip: What Biden did or didn't do is NOT the same.
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gounion wrote: Mon Dec 26, 2022 7:56 am Wow. The things you do to defend your side. Pro tip: What Biden did or didn't do is NOT the same.
So how is Joe Biden lying about his education different.
Wait I know because when a Democrat lies it is different than when a republican lies.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Dec 26, 2022 8:02 am So how is Joe Biden lying about his education different.
Wait I know because when a Democrat lies it is different than when a republican lies.
None should be in office is the opinion of those who have one standard and who aren't hypocrites
It's the difference between shoplifting and grand theft. I mean, there's nothing about this man that ISN'T a lie.

But you'll defend him, won't you?
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