Gavin Sends in the Guard

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https://abc7news.com/sf-fentanyl-gavin- ... /13166394/

The skeptic in me says he is doing so because he wants to run for president.

The non skeptic in me says he is making a tough descion that many liberals in California probably won't like.

The common sense in me says both are true.

No matter the case he is doing the right thing no matter the reason.

San Francisco is another American city that liberals have destroyed by having no standards. The governor's actions might help to fix some of what SF liberals have destroyed. Hopefully it isn't to little to late.
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Glennfs wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2023 4:29 pm https://abc7news.com/sf-fentanyl-gavin- ... /13166394/

The skeptic in me says he is doing so because he wants to run for president.

The non skeptic in me says he is making a tough descion that many liberals in California probably won't like.

The common sense in me says both are true.

No matter the case he is doing the right thing no matter the reason.

San Francisco is another American city that liberals have destroyed by having no standards. The governor's actions might help to fix some of what SF liberals have destroyed. Hopefully it isn't to little to late.
Let's just be clear there's a fentanyl and opioid crisis all through red state America too. But you guys don't do shit about it.
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I have no idea what this is about, wont click on links from the cons...


What I know is they are not patriots, otherwise they wouldnt always attack decent people trying to help Americans, live Gavin.
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Re: the OP

First, fuck off with the “another American city liberals have destroyed by having no standards” crap. The ONLY standard conservatives have is crushing people they hate, period. From women to trans kids to gays to drag queens to Blacks, Asians, Hispanics to, well, just about anybody who isn’t white, (allegedly) Christian and straight, conservatives hate them all. That includes the person who wrote the OP.

Second, why have conservatives destroyed rural America with their one standard?

https://www.dea.gov/fentanylawareness
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The thing I will note is Gov. Newsom is doing this in cooperation with the local city leaders, at their request. He didn't criticize them, but he acknowledged they needed help dealing with a crisis.

Unlike a certain Agent Orange who sent goons into Portland without them asking for them and ignored their wishes.
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bird wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:56 am Re: the OP

First, fuck off with the “another American city liberals have destroyed by having no standards” crap. The ONLY standard conservatives have is crushing people they hate, period. From women to trans kids to gays to drag queens to Blacks, Asians, Hispanics to, well, just about anybody who isn’t white, (allegedly) Christian and straight, conservatives hate them all. That includes the person who wrote the OP.

Second, why have conservatives destroyed rural America with their one standard?

https://www.dea.gov/fentanylawareness
Can you name a major American city ran by liberals that isn't a mess?
New York City
Chicago
Cleveland
LA
Portland
Seattle
The list of failures is very long.
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ProfX wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 8:20 am The thing I will note is Gov. Newsom is doing this in cooperation with the local city leaders, at their request. He didn't criticize them, but he acknowledged they needed help dealing with a crisis.

Unlike a certain Agent Orange who sent goons into Portland without them asking for them and ignored their wishes.
If Trump is the standard by which people are going to judge others that is a very low standard.
One in which the person being compared to Trump will always come out in front
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I hope they figure this out. All I will say that this doesn’t support the rhetoric that crime is down nor is it a ringing endorsement of the strategy of policing and law enforcement in those communities. It’s a sign that local leaders have finally had to face the fact that thing in those cities are spinning out of control.
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I love how you guys ignore all the Fentanyl and Hillbilly Heroin problems in the south.

Glenn, do you know anything about the drug problems in the rural south?
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gounion wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 10:41 am I love how you guys ignore all the Fentanyl and Hillbilly Heroin problems in the south.

Glenn, do you know anything about the drug problems in the rural south?
We aren’t ignoring anything. All those drugs come across the southern border and we have been told repeatedly that the southern border was secure and under control and crime is down. So who is bullshitting who?
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JoeMemphis wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 11:34 am We aren’t ignoring anything. All those drugs come across the southern border and we have been told repeatedly that the southern border was secure and under control and crime is down. So who is bullshitting who?
Explain to me how OxyContin is coming through the southern border. I didn’t know that Purdue Pharma was a Mexican company.

Here’s the funny thing, Joe. You don’t have any honesty in your body, and you learned from Trump NEVER to admit you are wrong about anything.
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gounion wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 11:57 am Explain to me how OxyContin is coming through the southern border. I didn’t know that Purdue Pharma was a Mexican company.

Here’s the funny thing, Joe. You don’t have any honesty in your body, and you learned from Trump NEVER to admit you are wrong about anything.
Purdue Pharma was charged and plead guilty in Federal Court. That wasn’t ignored by anyone but you.

You conveniently ignored the part about the drugs coming the southern border which we have been told repeatedly is closed, secure and under control. We have also been told crime is down in these major cities. And yet, it’s necessary to call in the guard. Yeah, that all adds up. Ignore the reality and believe the bullshit you are being feed. The secretary of homeland security makes the former head of FEMA Brownie look like a rocket scientist.
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Glennfs wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 8:49 am Can you name a major American city ran by liberals that isn't a mess?
New York City
Chicago
Cleveland
LA
Portland
Seattle
The list of failures is very long.
NYC safer than SC
Chicago still safer
LA has always been weird
Portland safer
Seattle light years better than any southern fascist run city.

Stop.Lying. Take your RW whack job talking points and go away.
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Glennfs wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 8:49 am Can you name a major American city ran by liberals that isn't a mess?
New York City
Chicago
Cleveland
LA
Portland
Seattle
The list of failures is very long.
Why do you ignore the fucking mess that is rural America which is run by fascist Republicans. The list of failures is very long.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:09 pm Purdue Pharma was charged and plead guilty in Federal Court. That wasn’t ignored by anyone but you.

You conveniently ignored the part about the drugs coming the southern border which we have been told repeatedly is closed, secure and under control. We have also been told crime is down in these major cities. And yet, it’s necessary to call in the guard. Yeah, that all adds up. Ignore the reality and believe the bullshit you are being feed. The secretary of homeland security makes the former head of FEMA Brownie look like a rocket scientist.
I said Fentanyl and Hillbilly heroin - opioids. You blamed it on Biden.

So explain how the opioids are coming across the souther border. Purdue Pharma plead guilty to marketing. Opioids are still a problem. Are you going to admit that opioids are still a problem, and they aren’t coming from Mexico?

Of course not because you’re a lying sack of shit.
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Rural America isn't any safer than the big city right now.

The American firearm psychosis is a plague.
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Murder was up by 25 percent in rural American in 2020. What Glenn and Joe don’t want to hear: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... rime-wave/
But when crime goes up in urban areas, Republicans point the finger at local and national Democrats, saying it must have been their policy choices that produced the crime. Turn on Fox News and you’ll learn that cities run by Democrats are hellholes of lawbreaking and mayhem, where atomized individuals scurry around in constant fear for their lives.


But that’s not true; in fact, by some measures New York City is one of the safest places in America. And the states with the highest homicide rates are Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama, Missouri and Arkansas. Although the governor of Louisiana is a conservative Democrat, the rest are run by Republicans; every one has a Republican legislature. Have they failed to bring down crime because they aren’t “tough” enough?


Speaking of failure, back in 2016, Donald Trump told rural Americans that if they elected him, he would solve all their problems, bring back all the jobs that had been lost and turn their communities into paradise. Yet they still struggle with lack of economic opportunity, high rates of drug addiction and violence.
Addressing those rural problems would require an examination of “root causes” — a focus that conservatives have always regarded with contempt when we were talking about urban crime. But no one is saying that rural White people just need to be punished more harshly so they finally learn to straighten up.
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What Joe is too big a lying sack of shit to admit is that the opioid crisis has nothing to do with problems at the border.
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gounion wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:33 pm What Joe is too big a lying sack of shit to admit is that the opioid crisis has nothing to do with problems at the border.
What GoU is too big a lying sack of shit to admit is that I NEVER said it did.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 11:34 am We aren’t ignoring anything. All those drugs come across the southern border and we have been told repeatedly that the southern border was secure and under control and crime is down. So who is bullshitting who?
Yes you did. Right here. http://radiofreeliberal.com/viewtopic.p ... 659#p57659

I said:

I love how you guys ignore all the Fentanyl and Hillbilly Heroin problems in the south.

And you said:

We aren’t ignoring anything. All those drugs come across the southern border and we have been told repeatedly that the southern border was secure and under control and crime is down. So who is bullshitting who?

Let’s be clear: First, as everyone knows, Hillbilly Heroin is slang for opioids. Now, you said “All those drugs come across the southern border”.

Plus, Bird just showed that you were wrong about fentanyl too.

Now, are you man enough to admit you were wrong? Fuck no, you’re a lying sack of shit, and Donald Trump taught you to NEVER admit you were wrong, no matter how red-handed you were caught.
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gounion wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:51 pm Yes you did. Right here. http://radiofreeliberal.com/viewtopic.p ... 659#p57659

I said:

I love how you guys ignore all the Fentanyl and Hillbilly Heroin problems in the south.

And you said:

We aren’t ignoring anything. All those drugs come across the southern border and we have been told repeatedly that the southern border was secure and under control and crime is down. So who is bullshitting who?

Let’s be clear: First, as everyone knows, Hillbilly Heroin is slang for opioids. Now, you said “All those drugs come across the southern border”.

Plus, Bird just showed that you were wrong about fentanyl too.

Now, are you man enough to admit you were wrong? Fuck no, you’re a lying sack of shit, and Donald Trump taught you to NEVER admit you were wrong, no matter how red-handed you were caught.
Are you and or Bird implying that the flow of Fentanyl across the Southern border is not a problem? Are you claiming that the southern border is closed, secure and under control? Are you claiming that crime is actually down and that is the reason SF needs to call in the National Guard?
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JoeMemphis wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:01 pm Are you and or Bird implying that the flow of Fentanyl across the Southern border is not a problem? Are you claiming that the southern border is closed, secure and under control? Are you claiming that crime is actually down and that is the reason SF needs to call in the National Guard?
Are you still claiming that all the opioids that are a huge problem in southern states are being smuggled over the Mexican border?

Yes or no?
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gounion wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:03 pm Are you still claiming that all the opioids that are a huge problem in southern states are being smuggled over the Mexican border?

Yes or no?
I said they were. You said opioids. I clearly was referring to fentanyl.
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bird wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:14 pm Why do you ignore the fucking mess that is rural America which is run by fascist Republicans. The list of failures is very long.
Because he’s a hyper partisan, tribal parrot who just repeats RW propaganda and can’t think for himself.
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