MS judge strips trans girl of her human rights.

[gounion]

This is the fucking world YOU voted for, Glenn and Joe. Glad you're happy. https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/20/us/missi ... index.html

A Mississippi federal judge denied a motion Friday, filed by the family of a transgender high school student requesting she be allowed to wear a dress and heels under her robe at her Gulfport high school graduation.

The 17-year-old, identified in court documents by her initials “L.B.,” did not attend her graduation, according to the American Civil Liberties Union of Mississippi.

L.B. and her parents, Samantha Brown and Henry Brown, filed the federal lawsuit Thursday demanding Harrison County School District allow the teen to wear what she wishes during Saturday’s graduation ceremony from Harrison Central High School.

This is what happens when the GOP rules a state.

[Glennfs]

Sounds like she was trying to make the ceremony about her. If she wasn't allowed to wear a dress to graduation then I believe it is a safe bet she wasn't wearing a dress to school either.

Personally I believe it could have been handled much better. They should have let her wear an appropriate dress under her robe and been done with it.
School administrators from both sides of the fence take ceremonies like this far to seriously.
Fact is very few people remember much about their graduation. The only thing I remember is the speaker and our valvictorian gave essentially the same speech.

[gounion]

Sounds like she was trying to make the ceremony about her. If she wasn't allowed to wear a dress to graduation then I believe it is a safe bet she wasn't wearing a dress to school either.

Personally ot could have been handled much better. They should have let her wear an appropriate dress under her robe and been done with it.
School administrators from both sides of the fence take ceremonies like this far to seriously.
Fact is very few people remember much about their graduation. The only thing I remember is the speaker and our valvictorian gave essentially the same speech.

This is Mississippi. Hatred of trans people is what they're all about, right up to the judges.

And of course, blame the victim. It's the trans girl's fault!

[Glennfs]

This is Mississippi. Hatred of trans people is what they're all about, right up to the judges.

And of course, blame the victim. It's the trans girl's fault!

So you are saying that judges who rule in favor of trans people hate conservatives

[gounion]

So you are saying that judges who rule in favor of trans people hate conservatives

Is that what YOU'RE saying? Please, explain.

Human Rights are no longer conservative principles?

[Glennfs]

Is that what YOU'RE saying? Please, explain.

Human Rights are no longer conservative principles?

Well you say that judges in Mississippi rule against trans people because they hate trans people.
So using that standard judges who rule in favor of trans people must also hate those whom they rule against

[gounion]

Well you say that judges in Mississippi rule against trans people because they hate trans people.
So using that standard judges who rule in favor of trans people must also hate those whom they rule against

Nope. I believe in human rights. So, in your stupidity, you are saying anyone in favor of human rights hates conservatives?

Is that REALLY the stupid-ass stance you're taking? Are you REALLY thinking this through?

[Glennfs]

Nope. I believe in human rights. So, in your stupidity, you are saying anyone in favor of human rights hates conservatives?

Is that REALLY the stupid-ass stance you're taking? Are you REALLY thinking this through?

So judges who you agree with are judging in favor of human rights and the law.
Judges who you don't agree with are judging on their personal hatred

[gounion]

So judges who you agree with are judging in favor of human rights and the law.
Judges who you don't agree with are judging on their personal hatred

I'm in favor of human rights. Trans people are human.

You guys ALWAYS have to have SOMEONE to hate - someone to demonize. First it was blacks, then gays, now trans people. You must be proud you're carrying on the tradition.

[ZoWie]

I'm in favor of human rights. Trans people are human.

You guys ALWAYS have to have SOMEONE to hate - someone to demonize. First it was blacks, then gays, now trans people. You must be proud you're carrying on the tradition.

Don't forget pronouns. Right now in LA there is a major flap about pronouns. It has to be the first time in history that people are ready to kill each other over grammar. Even in Gulliver's Travels, the war was at least about which end of the egg to crack.

[gounion]

Don't forget pronouns. Right now in LA there is a major flap about pronouns. It has to be the first time in history that people are ready to kill each other over grammar. Even in Gulliver's Travels, the war was at least about which end of the egg to crack.

I went to a national conference for the AFL-CIO PRIDE organization, had a GREAT time. But on Sunday, the business day, they had a long and well, not completely friendly "discussion" over how many letters to put in the "LGBTQ..."

It's an open scientific questions how many genders there are. One we should approach with an open mind.

I know a guy that identifies as "pansexual" - says it means he wouldn't rule out space aliens out of hand. No, that doesn't include animals, BTW. Consenting adults only. He's a nice person. But he dresses, oh, maybe 60% male.

I guess we were lucky the Tennessee cops weren't around at the RennFest today arresting men dressing in 1600's men's clothing. Lots of tights and kilts out there.

[ZoWie]

That's why the left is so weak. It fights with itself over perceived slights that most normal people don't even understand. Talk about putting yourselves exactly where your enemies want you to be.

Around here the tendency is to add a plus sign at the end, so you get stuff like LGBTQIA+. That seems to help, some of the time anyway. Another idea, probably too advanced for most people, would be to just put an infinity sign at the end.

[gounion]

That's why the left is so weak. It fights with itself over perceived slights that most normal people don't even understand. Talk about putting yourselves exactly where your enemies want you to be.

It was an interesting discussion, one that I was out of my league participating in, and I kept my mouth shut and listened.

I meant some of the nicest people in the world that week. I'm proud to be a cis ally to the community.

Glenn said he supported them until the GOP ratcheted up the hate machine, and he climbed right on board!

Around here the tendency is to add a plus sign at the end, so you get stuff like LGBTQIA+. That seems to help, some of the time anyway. Another idea, probably too advanced for most people, would be to just put an infinity sign at the end.

Hey yeah! LGBTQꝏ would be the bestus!

[Toonces]

The complaint describes a phone conversation between Samantha Brown and King, in which King says L.B. “is still a boy,” therefore “he needs to wear pants, socks, and shoes, like a boy.”

It's unfortunate that people still do not know how transgenderism works, or just gender for that matter. Hell, they don't respect children either.

[gounion]

It's unfortunate that people still do not know how transgenderism works, or just gender for that matter. Hell, they don't respect children either.

They don't respect anyone that's different.

[bird]

Sounds like she was trying to make the ceremony about her. If she wasn't allowed to wear a dress to graduation then I believe it is a safe bet she wasn't wearing a dress to school either.

Personally I believe it could have been handled much better. They should have let her wear an appropriate dress under her robe and been done with it.
School administrators from both sides of the fence take ceremonies like this far to seriously.
Fact is very few people remember much about their graduation. The only thing I remember is the speaker and our valvictorian gave essentially the same speech.

No. The school administrators and judge were making it about them.

It. Is. None. Of. Their. Business. Period.

[Glennfs]

I am a little slow at times and just really noticed the title of the thread.
Not allowing the person in question to wear a dress to graduation is hardly stripping her of her human rights.

But, it does show how great life in the USA truly is. Somehow I don't think people living in say Cuba would agree with the comparison

[gounion]

I am a little slow at times and just really noticed the title of the thread.
Not allowing the person in question to wear a dress to graduation is hardly stripping her of her human rights.

But, it does show how great life in the USA truly is. Somehow I don't think people living in say Cuba would agree with the comparison

Really? You are for the government mandating how you dress?

Wow, I guess you DO want the government to be the nanny state.

[Toonces]

I am a little slow at times and just really noticed the title of the thread.
Not allowing the person in question to wear a dress to graduation is hardly stripping her of her human rights.

But, it does show how great life in the USA truly is. Somehow I don't think people living in say Cuba would agree with the comparison

I'm curious as to this. Why is denying her basic freedom to be who she is showing how great life is in the USA?

Would making boys wear dresses be violating their rights? What about other girls being forced to wear a dress shirt and tie?

You're trying to impress upon us that you're accepting but it's kind of hard to believe when you're accepting of things being done to them.

Also, discriminating against someone based on their gender identity is a violation of their basic human rights. I mean, if we go by what the United Nations Human Rights Commission has any say. Although it also says people have a right to healthcare but the record isn't sparkling there either.

For the record, Cuba had same-sex marriage well before the USA

[bradman]

i've been told it doesn't have to be so complicated...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer

Queer is an umbrella term for people who are not heterosexual or are not cisgender. Originally meaning 'strange' or 'peculiar', queer came to be used pejoratively against those with same-sex desires or relationships in the late 19th century. Beginning in the late 1980s, queer activists, such as the members of Queer Nation, began to reclaim the word as a deliberately provocative and politically radical alternative to the more assimilationist branches of the LGBT community.[1][2]

In the 21st century, queer became increasingly used to describe a broad spectrum of non-normative sexual or gender identities and politics.[3] Academic disciplines such as queer theory and queer studies share a general opposition to binarism, normativity, and a perceived lack of intersectionality, some of them only tangentially connected to the LGBT movement. Queer arts, queer cultural groups, and queer political groups are examples of modern expressions of queer identities.

Critics of the use of the term include members of the LGBT community who associate the term more with its colloquial, derogatory usage,[4] those who wish to dissociate themselves from queer radicalism,[5] and those who see it as amorphous and trendy.[6] Queer is sometimes expanded to include any non-normative sexuality, including cisgender queer heterosexuality, although some LGBTQ people view this use of the term as appropriation.[7]

[gounion]

I am a little slow at times and just really noticed the title of the thread.
Not allowing the person in question to wear a dress to graduation is hardly stripping her of her human rights.

But, it does show how great life in the USA truly is. Somehow I don't think people living in say Cuba would agree with the comparison

Yeah, we know your logic. Same logic that said "is it denying the right of black people to use the same bathroom denying human rights? After all, they have THEIR bathroom to use. Or the right to eat in a restaurant? There's others that will serve them."

You guys recycle your arguments. You want YOUR human rights, but don't see the big deal if they're stripped of THEIRS.

And Glenn, you should do some research before you play the "We're better than Cuba" card - because it seems the rest of the world is passing us by. https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/ ... 022-11-14/

[Glennfs]

Yeah, we know your logic. Same logic that said "is it denying the right of black people to use the same bathroom denying human rights? After all, they have THEIR bathroom to use. Or the right to eat in a restaurant? There's others that will serve them."

You guys recycle your arguments. You want YOUR human rights, but don't see the big deal if they're stripped of THEIRS.

And Glenn, you should do some research before you play the "We're better than Cuba" card - because it seems the rest of the world is passing us by. https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/ ... 022-11-14/

And of course you believe that just like you believe that China is cleaning uo their pollution problem. Because a liberal reporter or a liberal commentator or a liberal politician or a liberal activist said so.

Of course you believe it because like most liberals you don't think fir yourself and automatically fall in with whatever your peer group says to believe.

Let's review this month you have

Sided with a corporation that uses slave and child labor
Sided with China owning social media platforms
And now praised Cuba
Good lord

[gounion]

And of course you believe that just like you believe that China is cleaning uo their pollution problem. Because a liberal reporter or a liberal commentator or a liberal politician or a liberal activist said so.

Of course you believe it because like most liberals you don't think fir yourself and automatically fall in with whatever your peer group says to believe.

Let's review this month you have

Sided with a corporation that uses slave and child labor
Sided with China owning social media platforms
And now praised Cuba
Good lord

Just pointing out that Cuba has a better record on human rights than the USA. I’m appalled.

Maybe that makes you proud, I dunno.

[Glennfs]

Just pointing out that Cuba has a better record on human rights than the USA. I’m appalled.

Maybe that makes you proud, I dunno.

You surely do not believe that Cuba has a better record on human rights than the USA

https://www.state.gov/reports/2022-coun ... ices/cuba/

[gounion]

You surely do not believe that Cuba has a better record on human rights than the USA

We USED to be the leading light of Human Rights in the world. But now, led by the GOP who are supported by people like you, we have a worse and worse record.

You champion a man that wants us to go back to Jim Crow, and says blacks were better off then.