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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:05 am 
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A study mentioned this week (6/16/18) on NPR's Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me, the NPR News Quiz says that it's been determined that by age 30, our musical tastes solidify and never changes again. I have to say that's very true for myself. I love the music of the 60s, 70s and 80s, but after that it was all downhill. I could probably count on one hand the songs I've liked since then...

Well, excluding the musical Hamilton.

How about you? Is it the same for you?

However, I found the exchange about it was very funny, in an off-topic sort of way. Here's the rough transcript:

Peter Sagal: Roy, new research coming out of the UK shows that what happens to your musical tastes once you turn 30?

Roy Blount Jr.: Ah, your tastes, your musical tastes changes, you get...

Peter Sagal: Well, I didn't say it changes...

Roy Blount Jr.: Oh... Oh! You said what happens...

Peter Sagal: I said what happens to it...

Roy Blount Jr: You lose it all together. (laughter)

Peter Sagal: That would explain a lot of "Dad Rock" it's true...

Roy Blount Jr.: Gosh, what happens?

Peter Sagal: I kind of gave it away as I didn't say it changes...

Roy Blount Jr.: Oh, it just... hardens.

Peger Sagal: Exactly. It stops! It stops evolving (ding!), basically after 30 your musical taste doesn't change anymore, the discovery came from research came from the UK-based music service Deezer, not to be confused with Wheezer, which is a band that people over 30 still like. (laughter)

Handi Kalibari: No we don't!

Peter Sagal: The research shows that people experience a kind of musical paralysis about age 30, a term which can also be applied to their dance moves. (laughter)

Handi Kalibari: I was the last person to know about Drake. It was very embarrassing. (laughter)

Peter Sagal: Really?

Handi Kalibari: Everybody kept talking about Drake, and eventually I'm like, why does everybody keep talking about Sir Francis Drake? (laughter) The man was a slaver! Why are we discussing him so much?

Peter Sagal: Yeah... no, apparently people's musical discovery phase peaks around age 24, and then it drops off, 24 is also the same age people start to realize the American Dream is a lie (laughter), life is not a meritocracy and unregulated capitalism is fundamentally flawed...

(pause)

Apparently we are employing socialists as writers! (clapping and laughter)

Roy Blount Jr.: There's a gonna be a purge! (more clapping and laugher)


Glen, before you start in with "I told you so", no this is what is called HUMOR - Wait Wait is one program that can laugh at itself, NPR and us.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:47 pm 
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This is so not true.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'll go continue to listen to some albums from the late Sixties. ;) :rw) :roll: :lol:

(OK. Wasn't born. So my tastes couldn't have calcified, then.)

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:) But, but... Music really did die after the mid 70's.


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Based on personal experience, I'd have to agree with the OP premise. I was born in 1950 and I the love music primarily from the 60s and into the 70s. Once the 80s hit, then not so much a fan from that era. Almost all of my vinyl albums and CDs are from the 60s and 70s eras. While driving, I'll listen to Sirius XM radio channels 6 and 7, the 60s and 70s, respectively. There are time I'll tune to their 80s station just to see if there is anything on that I recognize but usually not.

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:) But, but... Music really did die after the mid 70's.


I guess we've become our parents in they didn't like the music we listened to and now we don't like the music kids are listening today.

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I think each generation has to find a way to shock their parents, that started way back when - first it was ragtime, then jazz, then big band, then came the ultimate - rock and roll.

But when your parents listened to The Clash, it's hard to find new ways to shock them! I feel for the new generation - it's got to be hard.


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The 50s had all that devil music which became the wholesome alternative later on. Frank Sinatra, Elvis, Chuck Berry

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I guess we've become our parents in they didn't like the music we listened to and now we don't like the music kids are listening today.

Yeah, history repeats. I find the stuff I DO like is when it's a throwback to an earlier time - I don't care for Lady Gaga, for instance, unless she's doing old stuff, like when she did the tribute to Julie Andrews - and then I thought, wow, she can REALLY sing!

Or the "cups" song that Sam posted - just an old-fashioned folk song. I loved that song!


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The daughter of friends from when we lived in Chicago is probably in her early thirties now. She is a big Doors fan.

As for me, I like doo-wop, original British Invasion (The best band in the world, The Who!) and have come to actually like some old disco, house dance and so on. Rap? Doubt I will ever like it but I would like to think I get the point. But I probably don’t.

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The daughter of friends from when we lived in Chicago is probably in her early thirties now. She is a big Doors fan.

As for me, I like doo-wop, original British Invasion (The best band in the world, The Who!) and have come to actually like some old disco, house dance and so on. Rap? Doubt I will ever like it but I would like to think I get the point. But I probably don’t.

I am a rocker, HARD rocker, drummer, and I too was anti disco during the disco era because it seemed to take away from my music.

Having said that, some of what the Bee Gee's did both pre Disco and during Disco, was amazing. Pre disco they were just great vocalists with cute love songs but REALLY great vocalists and with disco they really kicked some ass, in retrospect.

Would we have songs like
www.youtube.com Video from : www.youtube.com



or

www.youtube.com Video from : www.youtube.com


If the Bee Gee's hadnt done what they did? Maybe, maybe not.

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I am a rocker, HARD rocker, drummer, and I too was anti disco during the disco era because it seemed to take away from my music.

Having said that, some of what the Bee Gee's did both pre Disco and during Disco, was amazing. Pre disco they were just great vocalists with cute love songs but REALLY great vocalists and with disco they really kicked some ass, in retrospect.

Would we have songs like
www.youtube.com Video from : www.youtube.com


or

www.youtube.com Video from : www.youtube.com


If the Bee Gee's hadnt done what they did? Maybe, maybe not.

Yeah, The BeeGees did kick ass with their vocals. My first introduction to them was New York Mining Disaster 1941 followed by I Started A Joke.

Btw, there was a juke box at a bar called Down Under which was in the basement of the same building that had the Cleveland State University bookstore. They had Can't Explain by The Who on it. Never saw it on a jukebox before or since.

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Speaking of "The Who"


https://www.sfchronicle.com/thetake/art ... 508791.php


I was there


almost got squished to death when "the Who" took the stage

I was also at the infamous Led Zeppelin concert when their manager and Graham's right hand man got into a fist fight, so in retaliation Page and Plant stood still the whole time, no moving around and doing their usual antics on stage. I , however, was so fucking high on acid I was unaware they were standing still the entire time.

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Speaking of "The Who"


https://www.sfchronicle.com/thetake/art ... 508791.php


I was there


almost got squished to death when "the Who" took the stage

I was also at the infamous Led Zeppelin concert when their manager and Graham's right hand man got into a fist fight, so in retaliation Page and Plant stood still the whole time, no moving around and doing their usual antics on stage. I , however, was so fucking high on acid I was unaware they were standing still the entire time.


I saw the Who in Oakland in 88 or 89. It was billed as being their last concert ever. Because it was supposed to be their last concert they played an extra set which lasted well into the night. It was a very good show.

It wasn't their last concert.


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I saw the Who in Oakland in 88 or 89. It was billed as being their last concert ever. Because it was supposed to be their last concert they played an extra set which lasted well into the night. It was a very good show.

It wasn't their last concert.


I dont know if they were known for playing longer than they had to, I thought only "The Boss" did that. My distinct memories of that day were how I wanted to be Roger Daltrey more than anybody alive, and how at one point we were almost squished to death.

Went to local Journey opening for Kansas concert way way back, around this same time, and Kansas refused to come on stage because they couldnt get the necessary power to run their light show and they were not much without it, I guess.

So pre Steve Perry Journey took the stage for 3 hours to make up for it. One of the top 5 greatest bands of that era. When Perry joined they became an almost unrecognizably different band.

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Have seen The Who 4 times. My brother-in-law got tickets for my wife and myself and he and his girlfriend for Roger Daltrey with the Cleveland Orchestra on July 8. They are going to do Tommy!

On an unrelated note but regarding seeing a performer multiple times, my buddy's wife has seen Neil diamond over 50 times. She has a license plate holder that says: You Bet Your Ass I'm A Neil Diamond Fan.

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Have seen The Who 4 times. My brother-in-law got tickets for my wife and myself and he and his girlfriend for Roger Daltrey with the Cleveland Orchestra on July 8. They are going to do Tommy!

On an unrelated note but regarding seeing a performer multiple times, my buddy's wife has seen Neil diamond over 50 times. She has a license plate holder that says: You Bet Your Ass I'm A Neil Diamond Fan.

I guess he's a jerk, but Diamond was one of the greatest songwriters of the 60s and 70s.

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I am a rocker, HARD rocker, drummer, and I too was anti disco during the disco era because it seemed to take away from my music.

Having said that, some of what the Bee Gee's did both pre Disco and during Disco, was amazing. Pre disco they were just great vocalists with cute love songs but REALLY great vocalists and with disco they really kicked some ass, in retrospect.

Would we have songs like
www.youtube.com Video from : www.youtube.com



or

www.youtube.com Video from : www.youtube.com


If the Bee Gee's hadnt done what they did? Maybe, maybe not.


Of course we would. The Bee Gees are just imitators. Michael was from Motown and produced by Quincy Jones, who was originally a big band/orchestra guy.

Without Motown there would be no Philly Soul. No Philly Soul, no disco.

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Dunno about the premise of the OP.

These days I listen to mostly shoegazer and trap/chill hop/hip hop.

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I like Lady Gaga. :D

Well, this music video, anyway.

www.youtube.com Video from : www.youtube.com


Part of the video references how Alice Paul, the suffragette was institutionalized - for her "hysterical" view that women should have the right to vote.

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I like Lady Gaga. :D

Well, this music video, anyway.

www.youtube.com Video from : www.youtube.com


Part of the video references how Alice Paul, the suffragette was institutionalized - for her "hysterical" view that women should have the right to vote.

I have been listening to this for days


www.youtube.com Video from : www.youtube.com


Not sure I ever understood his lyrics though.

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I can certainly see the stereotypes tend to be true from one generation to the next in my family/friends: "In my day, music was so much better!" etc. My father in law is stuck in the 50's, although he was a teenager at that point so he tapped out early.

But seriously, what's with pop music today? In general it's just massed produced crap. :)

I like new music as long as it fits a certain style. There was a band in recent times called the Palma Violets. Some young chaps from the UK that released their first indy album a few years back. I played that album to death. But it has a fairly retro sound - sort of Clash-ish. Same with the Temples. I liked their first album as well, but their sound is 60's psychedelic.

Anything Radiohead does I generally like. But they've been around for a long time.

I like some 60's music (Beatles all day) 70's and 80's. 90's starts to get somewhat dodgy for me outside of Radiohead. Never really got into the grunge stuff. I did like the Verve's hits, some stuff by Third Eye Blind, some Blur, etc.

Let's get Theodor Adorno in on this. :)

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I dvr Colbert every night and often Seth Meyers, the bands I see are good, most of them.

Cant remember names.

I must see most of it on Colbert.

Listening to Peter Fonda talking about how his comment to George Harrison managed to get into this song


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"I know what it's like to be dead" is from an acid trip they all had. George was freaking on acid and Peter calmed him and told him that this would be what he would experience but that it was nothing to fear.

then Peter mentioned this cover, which I like

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I can certainly see the stereotypes tend to be true from one generation to the next in my family/friends: "In my day, music was so much better!" etc. My father in law is stuck in the 50's, although he was a teenager at that point so he tapped out early.

But seriously, what's with pop music today? In general it's just massed produced crap. :)

I like new music as long as it fits a certain style. There was a band in recent times called the Palma Violets. Some young chaps from the UK that released their first indy album a few years back. I played that album to death. But it has a fairly retro sound - sort of Clash-ish. Same with the Temples. I liked their first album as well, but their sound is 60's psychedelic.

Anything Radiohead does I generally like. But they've been around for a long time.

I like some 60's music (Beatles all day) 70's and 80's. 90's starts to get somewhat dodgy for me outside of Radiohead. Never really got into the grunge stuff. I did like the Verve's hits, some stuff by Third Eye Blind, some Blur, etc.

Let's get Theodor Adorno in on this. :)

This could apply to any type of music genre of any era. The fold music of the late 50 and early 60s, the surf sounds of the early 60s, the British Invasion, disco, country, rap, etc... Success spawns many imitators.

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