Human Trafficking?
Human Trafficking?
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Some of the migrants DeSantis flew to Martha's Vineyard say a woman IDed as "Perla" lured them on to the plane by telling them they'd be going to Boston for expedited work papers
https://www.npr.org/2022/09/15/11231097 ... ium=social
Also using Florida taxpayer money to traffick migrants from Texas to Martha’s Vineyard.
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Are the same that burn crosses"
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Deceit. Doing political stunts. Moving problems out of sight and out of mind instead of dealing with them. Yep, it's a DePutin Republican.
So, they weren't even Cuban or Venezuelan refugees coming to Florida by boat. We don't usually get refugees by land, unless they're people trying to escape on foot from Georgia or Alabama. We supposedly pretend to offer asylum for those folks; Haitians, not so much.
However, these were folks from San Antonio in Texas - not Florida - they weren't even being transported by the governor of their own state. DePutin was just "assisting" his pal Abbott. And BTW, one of them WAS Venezuelan. Maybe we ought to tell all the Venezulans here in SoFla who will vote for DePutin in Nov.
So, they weren't even Cuban or Venezuelan refugees coming to Florida by boat. We don't usually get refugees by land, unless they're people trying to escape on foot from Georgia or Alabama. We supposedly pretend to offer asylum for those folks; Haitians, not so much.
However, these were folks from San Antonio in Texas - not Florida - they weren't even being transported by the governor of their own state. DePutin was just "assisting" his pal Abbott. And BTW, one of them WAS Venezuelan. Maybe we ought to tell all the Venezulans here in SoFla who will vote for DePutin in Nov.
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Shouldn't sanctuary cities be welcoming illegal aliens with open arms and encouraging states like Florida and Texas to send as many illegal aliens as they can.
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You don’t care that Desantis is using Florida taxpayer money to traffic migrants from Texas to other states . That’s the topic.
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I support Florida and Texas relocating illegal aliens to sanctuary cities.
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You support human trafficking. And Florida using taxpayer money for other states. And calling human beings illegal aliens is another example of your bigotry.
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Re: Human Trafficking?
Irrelevant. Here's the fundamental question that avoids. Should people be transported to those places against their will, and as Drak keeps asking, with taxpayer funds?
I am a FL taxpayer. No, I do not support FL lying to immigrants, refugees, deceiving them as to where they're going, and then sending them some other place against their will. No way.
Especially for a dumb ass political stunt, which is all this is.
Also, if Florida is gonna claim we are protecting refugees from Venezuelan Communism, maybe we ought to stop deporting Venezuelans (cuz we just did), and I hope all the V-A voters in South Florida remember this in Nov.
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But the border is closed and under control. So says people in high places. So we are all just imagining this problem. No government is using taxpayer money to transport migrants. Not state or federal. The border is closed. Nothing to see here. Go on about your day.ProfX wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 10:32 am Irrelevant. Here's the fundamental question that avoids. Should people be transported to those places against their will, and as Drak keeps asking, with taxpayer funds?
I am a FL taxpayer. No, I do not support FL lying to immigrants, refugees, deceiving them as to where they're going, and then sending them some other place against their will. No way.
Especially for a dumb ass political stunt, which is all this is.
Also, if Florida is gonna claim we are protecting refugees from Venezuelan Communism, maybe we ought to stop deporting Venezuelans (cuz we just did), and I hope all the V-A voters in South Florida remember this in Nov.
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I guess we are back to semantics. If it were "closed," (at least to the extent some insist), no trucks could cross it in either direction, no goods could be transported across it, no US tourist could visit Mexico, or vice versa, Native families whose members lives on both sides could never see their families, no people or goods could move across it ever.JoeMemphis wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:03 am But the border is closed and under control. So says people in high places. So we are all just imagining this problem. No government is using taxpayer money to transport migrants. Not state or federal. The border is closed. Nothing to see here. Go on about your day.
... Not even Donald Trump was saying we should do that. By that definition, it not only has never been closed, I can't see how it ever would be. I don't know of any country that has managed to hermetically seal a 2000 mile border with its neighbor. Yes, we could have finished that stupid Wall, but it wouldn't really have stopped anything, either.
It is controlled. We have Border Patrol. There are drones and surveillance. There are checkpoints. So tell me, "leans libertarian," what additional controls do you think we lack, or need? Libertarians don't like lots of control over peoples' movements. And I'm also curious, who do you think ever controlled it to your satisfaction? Maybe the answer is nobody, but then that's not a Biden problem.
Put me down for once again saying, people who are refugees should be allowed to cross it, then (if found by authorities) processed for asylum claims. And while awaiting their asylum decisions, they should neither be arbitrarily deported, detained, nor relocated. They should be treated like human beings. Yes, that is what I am "open" to. Mainly as it's international law.
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Let's review
A they are aliens as in not from our country
B they are here illegally
Making them illegal aliens
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Refugees have a right under international law to come here and request asylum. There is no limit on how they get there, whether it's on a plane, a boat, driving, or walking across a border on foot.
If their asylum request is denied, they can be asked to leave. The "should" question I won't get into now. But if everything up to that point was as I said, they had every legal right to come here and request asylum. Even without immigration papers and documents. That is international law. The U.S. should respect it.
BTW, glenn, do you support deporting all refugees from Cuba and Venezuela? (Without getting into Haiti, Nicaragua, El Salvador, etc., etc.) Why not? They are aliens, and also came here ... in the way you're discussing ... "illegally" too. Maybe DePutin should make that his policy, but I think even he's not dumb enough to realize what voting blocs he's gonna lose in FL.
If their asylum request is denied, they can be asked to leave. The "should" question I won't get into now. But if everything up to that point was as I said, they had every legal right to come here and request asylum. Even without immigration papers and documents. That is international law. The U.S. should respect it.
BTW, glenn, do you support deporting all refugees from Cuba and Venezuela? (Without getting into Haiti, Nicaragua, El Salvador, etc., etc.) Why not? They are aliens, and also came here ... in the way you're discussing ... "illegally" too. Maybe DePutin should make that his policy, but I think even he's not dumb enough to realize what voting blocs he's gonna lose in FL.
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Let’s review. You’re a dehumanizing bigot.
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population transfer is a human rights abuse.
FORCED POPULATION TRANSFERS AS A CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY - Human Rights Watch
I do get that the people with the history of Indian Removal, deportation, racial integrity laws, Confederacy, segregation, and other stars and bars ventures don't care about that.
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Prove your own relatavies came here so-called legally.
Then again, you guys spent centuries stealing people from another continent, bringing them here both legally and illegally.
So you're not really a good reference for what makes a person legally from this country or not.
See above.B they are here illegally
Making them illegal aliens
Nobody is illegal.
Labeling people "aliens" is a dehumanizing, white-supremacist act.
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Billions of dollars were spent on a border wall that Trump and the GOP claimed was finished. Did that wall suddenly disappear?
Anyway, border policy didn’t change. Republicans started talking about an unsecured border they very day Biden stepped not office.
What’s even more hilarious is before the 2018 midterms they created this absolutely ridiculous narrative that invading caravans were coming across the border and blaming Dems, WHEN REPUBLICANS CONTROLLED EVERY SINGLE BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT.
You gotta be dumber than dirt to buy that shit.
Anyway, border policy didn’t change. Republicans started talking about an unsecured border they very day Biden stepped not office.
What’s even more hilarious is before the 2018 midterms they created this absolutely ridiculous narrative that invading caravans were coming across the border and blaming Dems, WHEN REPUBLICANS CONTROLLED EVERY SINGLE BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT.
You gotta be dumber than dirt to buy that shit.
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Are the same that burn crosses"
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Actually it is classic NIMBY liberal ran states and cities where they don't have to deal with illegal immigration are all for sanctuary. Until of course they become the destination for illegals.carmenjonze wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:42 am population transfer is a human rights abuse.
FORCED POPULATION TRANSFERS AS A CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY - Human Rights Watch
I do get that the people with the history of Indian Removal, deportation, racial integrity laws, Confederacy, segregation, and other stars and bars ventures don't care about that.
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Boston Globe says the migrants (doesn't say how many) were Venezuelan.ProfX wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 9:05 am Deceit. Doing political stunts. Moving problems out of sight and out of mind instead of dealing with them. Yep, it's a DePutin Republican.
So, they weren't even Cuban or Venezuelan refugees coming to Florida by boat. We don't usually get refugees by land, unless they're people trying to escape on foot from Georgia or Alabama. We supposedly pretend to offer asylum for those folks; Haitians, not so much.
However, these were folks from San Antonio in Texas - not Florida - they weren't even being transported by the governor of their own state. DePutin was just "assisting" his pal Abbott. And BTW, one of them WAS Venezuelan. Maybe we ought to tell all the Venezulans here in SoFla who will vote for DePutin in Nov.
‘At first they were surprised, just like us.’ Martha’s Vineyard responds to surprise arrival of planeloads of migrants.
More in link.Venezuelan migrants filtered in and out of St. Andrew’s Episcopal Church here Thursday morning as a dozen local volunteers prepared to serve breakfast.
On the menu: cereal, breakfast sandwiches, grapefruit, and coffee.
Most of the migrants, but not all, are young men in shorts and baseball caps — dressed for the warm weather they left Wednesday on planes dispatched by Florida Governor Ron DeSantis.
Eduardo, a 25-year-old undocumented migrant from Barquisimeto, Venezuela, set out almost three months ago, he said. Eventually, he reached San Antonio, where he stayed in the “San Pedro 7000 shelter” for a week and a half, but authorities were going to expelling them, until, he said, he received word that he could go to Boston.
“And so, we decided to accept it to see if there were more job opportunities there [we could get] quickly and all because here we want to work quickly,” he said in Spanish.
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The way to right wrongs is to
Shine the light of truth on them.
~ Ida B. Wells
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Anyone referring to human beings as"illegals" should be ordered to stop instantly or be banned.
From this message board.
I will say and do little else than to see this enforced.
From this message board.
I will say and do little else than to see this enforced.
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Hi, dirty WS.
Massachussetts is not a sanctuary state.
Venezuelan migrants fleeing communism are not "illegals," any more than your human-trafficking relatives were "illegals."Until of course they become the destination for illegals.
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He can get away with calling them "illegals."
He cannot get away with calling them "niggers & sp#cs."
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The way to right wrongs is to
Shine the light of truth on them.
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SEe my thread about what TX and FL are doing to these people.carmenjonze wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:57 am He can get away with calling them "illegals."
He cannot get away with calling them "niggers & sp#cs."
Gerrymandering will likely result in gop controlling the house even though ten million more dems will vote than cons. America is broken.
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Nice job, Ron DeFascist.
You're gonna need all the open & closeted WN voters you can muster, after this...
Gov. DeSantis defends decision to fly migrants to Martha's Vineyard: 'We're not a sanctuary state' - CBS News
Well, today, they found out they put their trust in people who see them as just more n-words and sp#cs.
They are literally joking about LITERALLY using suffering people as pawns.
You're gonna need all the open & closeted WN voters you can muster, after this...
Gov. DeSantis defends decision to fly migrants to Martha's Vineyard: 'We're not a sanctuary state' - CBS News
Hmph. They apparently thought they were special.There were at least 50 Venezuelans who were flown to Martha's Vineyard under the governor's orders.
Local Venezuelan leaders and other immigration advocates gathered in Doral where they denounced what they call DeSanits' blatant disregard for human life and the lies he told to the Cuban and Venezuelan communities. They point to a September 7th press conference in Miami where they said he promised that neither Cubans nor Venezuelans would be sent out of the state.
Well, today, they found out they put their trust in people who see them as just more n-words and sp#cs.
In this country, only conservative whites could be so cavalier with human life. And why not; that's the history they come from and wish to return us all to."We are here today to tell Governor DeSantis that he has to stop. We demand that he stops using our pain, our suffering, and our desperation for his political gain," said Adelys Ferro, with the Venezuelan American Caucus.
"This is just the beginning. If we don't raise our voices and let them know that we are human beings, that immigrants are here to work, to have a life. (They are) looking for democracy, for peace, for liberty, for stability for them and their families," she added.
Taryn Fenske, the governor's spokesperson, told Fox News Digital that the planes were part of the state's relocation program to "transport illegal immigrants to sanctuary destinations."
They are literally joking about LITERALLY using suffering people as pawns.
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The way to right wrongs is to
Shine the light of truth on them.
~ Ida B. Wells
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The way to right wrongs is to
Shine the light of truth on them.
~ Ida B. Wells
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Re: Human Trafficking?
yeah, this is physical violence...If we cant arrest DeFascist and Abbott, what can we do to stop this physical attack on innocent men, Women and children? United Nations? I am willing to help anyway I can.carmenjonze wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:01 pm Nice job, Ron DeFascist.
You're gonna need all the open & closeted WN voters you can muster, after this...
Gov. DeSantis defends decision to fly migrants to Martha's Vineyard: 'We're not a sanctuary state' - CBS News
In this country, only conservative whites could be so cavalier with human life. And why not; that's the history they come from and wish to return us all to.
They are literally joking about LITERALLY using people as pawns.
I sigh in your general direction.
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You know, this word does come from somewhere.
That's because words mean things.
Migrants' plane lands on Martha's Vineyard: island mobilizes, with many unanswered questions - New Hampshire Public Radio
Emergency bedding set up at St Andrew's Episcopal Church in Edgartown for the refugees to spend the night.
^of course, it's the Episcopalians and not white Evangelicals or conservative Presbyterians who are helping to alleviate suffereing.
I just hope St. Andrew's Episcopal Church isn't getting a million death threats and bomb threats in their voicemail.
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The way to right wrongs is to
Shine the light of truth on them.
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The way to right wrongs is to
Shine the light of truth on them.
~ Ida B. Wells
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Great so how many guest workers are you willing to take in?
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