It’s time to talk to Republicans/independents

[Drak]

There is no crisis at the border. That nonsense started the day Biden stepped into office. Propaganda works though. Look at 2018. The GOP was in control and just before the midterms they flagged a faux crisis at the border and blamed Democrats, even though the GOP was in charge. And even though the Dems won the House, the propaganda worked as seen on media sites, social media, and message boards, including this one.

Big oil is owned by conservatives. The current price per barrel does not reflect the current price gouging we are seeing all over the world. The companies that own oil are responsible for the prices, not the President of the United States. Blame them.

Again, all Glennfs does is parrot. He has the ability to research world wide inflation and world wide oil prices. But he won't, because he's not here for dealing in facts. It's just a game. The GOP has NO solutions for this stuff. Period.

Meanwhile, the GOP attempted a coup.

[Libertas]

Yes, what cons do when they parrot lies is unpatriotic. They are not capable anymore anyway, of putting country first EVER.

I provide list after list of record breaking amazing accomplishments of Biden and they are ignored.

[Motor City]

It isn't about individual issues. Most Republicans are pro abortion to one degree or another.
What it is about is the terrible job Biden and the democratic party is currently doing.
Inflation
Oil crisis
Border crisis
Gas prices
There is not one thing currently that the Biden administration is doing well.

That is the problem. While progressives are rightfully upset about current court rulings. The majority of the country are more worried about the price of gas and groceries.
Which is a big reason why Biden's approval numbers are below where trump's were.

Well biden is doing a lot, quite a lot, he is favoring industry and wealthy folks like republicans do and he is cracking down on the vulnerable as well a lot like republicans do. he is squarely on the side of the aggressors and economic radicals just like republicans are so all those problems are flourishing.

[ZoWie]

What it is about is the terrible job Biden and the democratic party is currently doing.
Inflation
Oil crisis
Border crisis
Gas prices
There is not one thing currently that the Biden administration is doing well.

> Inflation
Indirect result of Republican fiscal policy. Direct result of worst pandemic in 100 years (poorly handled by drumpf), worst drought in 1200 years (exacerbated by Republican corporate policy), and the worst European land war in 70 years (direct result of Putin not having drumpf to trust any more). Biden inherited a ship of state with a gaping hole in the hull. I realize that Republicans will always blame the Democrats who inherit their messes, and usually they get away with it because our media are afraid of losing favor in DC.

> Oil crisis
Direct result of Putin's war, which was Putin's solution after he couldn't get the US to do his bidding any more.

> Border crisis
Largely the result of climate change, which turned an economic decline into an existential threat for millions of people. The Republicans have done nothing about climate change except deny its severity or dismiss it as a transitory natural cycle.

> Gas crisis
Direct result of Putin's war.

The conclusion, as always, is that you are deluded. Even were it not a massive oversimplification that Biden is doing a bad job, it would still beat no job at all, which is what we got from the last sorry lot of Republicans.

[Drak]

Aside from oil and gas being high from the war, there is blatant price gouging going on. The current prices do not reflect the prices per barrel. Big Oil is owned by conservatives, and they set the world wide prices, not Joe Biden.

[ProfX]

I think the numbers of migrants are going up because they dropped during the pandemic (even immigrants don't WANT to get sick, and of course the economic shocks) and are slowly returning to pre-pandemic levels. Has nothing to do with Biden's policies. BTW, a federal judge is forcing the admin to continue Title 42, which I think is nonsense. If it's now endemic and not pandemic, Title 42 needs to be lifted.

But on one other point ...

'Stacks of bodies': 46 dead migrants found in truck in Texas
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/twenty ... 022-06-28/

Yeah, fuck the human traffickers, and the way they treat the people they transport like cattle, they just left people in the back of this truck without air conditioning to die. Including children.

[ZoWie]

Aside from oil and gas being high from the war, there is blatant price gouging going on. The current prices do not reflect the prices per barrel. Big Oil is owned by conservatives, and they set the world wide prices, not Joe Biden.

Price gouging is encouraged by conservatives, always has been, always will be. It's an integral part of their fiscal policy.

In fact oil prices are indeed down from right after Putin started his war, though the futures contracts seem to fluctuate all over the place from day to day. It would be naive to think that those who stand to profit from high fuel prices would NOT use the world situation as an excuse to price gouge.

All Biden has done about it is suspend Federal gas taxes, encourage the states to do similar, and open the oil reserve on a hugely massive basis. The last Republican president would probably have advised us to put bleach into the tank instead of gas, then gone back to eating Big Macs and watching Fox.

> 46 dead from human smuggling

I think it's up to >50. But Glenn will say it's all Biden's fault for not having them all rounded up and shot while still in Mexico.

[carmenjonze]

You are right. I see now I added the "as long as we" and it wasnt necessary.

Caller Stephanie MIller says have thousands of Women show up in police stations in red states all at once and say "I had an abortion, punish me now."

Stephanie liked the idea but my first thought was easy for him to say. But the point was direct action that would accomplish something.

Well..I agree with you. I am guessing this person is neither a womb-owner, nor Black, nor Latino?

No way in hell I would show up at the police station -- in any state -- and offer to be punished.

It reminds me of people saying things like, "ohhh, well! Every Black man should go around brandishing guns like the Black Panthers in 1966! And then we can have gun control!"

No, we will just have a lot of dead, armed Black men shot up by the cops.

I wish people would think these things through before calling in to shows.

[Glennfs]

There is no crisis at the border. That nonsense started the day Biden stepped into office. Propaganda works though. Look at 2018. The GOP was in control and just before the midterms they flagged a faux crisis at the border and blamed Democrats, even though the GOP was in charge. And even though the Dems won the House, the propaganda worked as seen on media sites, social media, and message boards, including this one.

Big oil is owned by conservatives. The current price per barrel does not reflect the current price gouging we are seeing all over the world. The companies that own oil are responsible for the prices, not the President of the United States. Blame them.

Again, all Glennfs does is parrot. He has the ability to research world wide inflation and world wide oil prices. But he won't, because he's not here for dealing in facts. It's just a game. The GOP has NO solutions for this stuff. Period.

Meanwhile, the GOP attempted a coup.

First your parrot comment is way off but typical thinking from a liberal. I find that liberals are good party members who never question what their party leaders and handlers tell them to believe. All the while believing everything that the party tells them to be 100pct truthful.
Here is a very good oped written by a Republican running for Congress that is much closer to the feelings and beliefs of the American public than that of which your party tells you to believe.

https://www.newsweek.com/democrats-have ... on-1719880

[gounion]

First your parrot comment is way off but typical thinking from a liberal. I find that liberals are good party members who never question what their party leaders and handlers tell them to believe. All the while believing everything that the party tells them to be 100pct truthful.
Here is a very good oped written by a Republican running for Congress that is much closer to the feelings and beliefs of the American public than that of which your party tells you to believe.

https://www.newsweek.com/democrats-have ... on-1719880

This from the guy whose party is owned lock, stock and barrel by Donald Trump? The party that overwhelmingly still thinks the Democrats stole the election and Donald Trump actually won in a landslide?

Does the hypocrisy ever back up in your throat, like bile?

[ProfX]

I believe what my lying eyes see, personally.

What I've seen during my life on this planet is Republicans fight labor regulations, higher wages, OSHA & worker safety, labor union organizing, and social programs that benefit the working class, and now they have the chutzpah to say they are "the friends of the working class".

This is along with them blasting "woke corporations" like Disney, while cheerfully continuing to haul in corporate contributions.

Maybe on another planet. On this one, you can't pee on my leg, and tell me it's raining. Also, when you keep claiming it's only some forgotten white male working class that needs support, when our workforce is increasingly far more diverse, I wonder what agenda you're really pushing.

Trump said he was a friend of the working class, too. Uh huh, and shortly after being elected, he went to some ritzy glitzy Manhattan emporium where a burger is $38 and told the folks there they were his real base and he was going to get their taxes down. Weird, other than overturning Roe, this is the only promise he really delivered on. Don't fault me for paying attention.

[ZoWie]

Glenn probably gives drumpf high scores for ketchup throwing and driver choking.

Sure I realize that it's her story and since she didn't see some of it you can bring up that last refuge of thieves, the accusation that it's mostly hearsay evidence, but it meshes with other stuff we know as facts. Glenn's Republican president was a whack job with a severe personality disorder, and something like 60% of Republicans still like him.

My own conclusion, believe or reject it as you will, is that the last Republican POTUS was nucking futs.

But the majority of Republicans has certainly demonstrated a liking for presidents who bluster, screw over the disadvantaged races/classes, and give massive tax breaks to the transnational super-rich. They also value males who think with their hormones, especially when they make veiled threats of violence instead of shutting up, holding meetings, and making difficult decisions on how to cope with crises. There are Republican writers and thinkers, and some of them seem pretty smart, but when it comes to voting, the majority are more interested in keeping their supposed birthright, and they usually vote the way their hormones tell them to. It's rule by the feeble minded, and doesn't threaten any of their cherished (and erroneous) ideas about the rich, able, and well-born.

[carmenjonze]

... a very good oped ...

All you got is op-eds, but you accuse liberals of believing what we're told and being unobjective?

At least we believe in facts and reality and don't have to rely on propaganda by white-aspirant rightwingers.

[Motor City]

Nation’s Centrists Stubbornly Double Down On Claim That Roe v. Wade Not At Risk

Asserting there was no need to worry about the highly unlikely outcome, the nation’s centrists reportedly doubled down Friday on their claim that Roe v. Wade was not at risk.

“People are blowing this whole idea of overturning Roe completely out of proportion—it’s just not going to happen,” said outspoken centrist Peter Gesson, stressing that the Supreme Court would almost certainly respect the precedent set by the seminal 1973 ruling on women’s reproductive rights.

“Basically, there’s a legal principle called stare decisis. That means past judicial decisions stay in place unless there’s a compelling reason to change them. I can send you an Atlantic article about it, if you’re interested. Anyway, these justices are all thoughtful individuals with a deep knowledge of how our legal system works. They aren’t going to........

[ZoWie]

We are talking about American politics here. For most of my life, this country has proven that the human capacity for denial is asymptotic at infinity.

Internet makes it worse, of course. "I saw it on facebook, so it must be true."

[carmenjonze]

Nation’s Centrists Stubbornly Double Down On Claim That Roe v. Wade Not At Risk

it’s so true, even if it’s a joke.

Plus, so-called centrists are just cons, anyway.