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 Post subject: Cremation or burial?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:16 pm 
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I saw an episode of "Yellowstone" about Native American's and ranchers, etc., anyway the NA says to burn the bodies of the white men (bad guys) because if you burn the body vs bury it the soul is trapped on earth and cant go to wherever. Now I am an atheist as you know and I have told my family cremation, but what do you know about this belief, out of curiosity? I cant imagine anything would change my mind, but out of respect for the rightful owners of the land my house and office are on, I thought I would ask.




This is a TV show that is quite good in that so far it may be wiling to actually paint the ranchers/white people as the bad guys, sure it is implying both sides have guilt but so far it makes sense to me that the conclusion is the white man stole the land.

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I saw an episode of "Yellowstone" about Native American's and ranchers, etc., anyway the NA says to burn the bodies of the white men (bad guys) because if you burn the body vs bury it the soul is trapped on earth and cant go to wherever. Now I am an atheist as you know and I have told my family cremation, but what do you know about this belief, out of curiosity? I cant imagine anything would change my mind, but out of respect for the rightful owners of the land my house and office are on, I thought I would ask.




This is a TV show that is quite good in that so far it may be wiling to actually paint the ranchers/white people as the bad guys, sure it is implying both sides have guilt but so far it makes sense to me that the conclusion is the white man stole the land.

I wouldn't put too much faith on what the beliefs of Native Americans are base on a fictional TV series. From my understanding, Native American's beliefs of an afterlife varies from tribe to tribe but most seem to lean towards the deceased travels to a place and meets up with those they knew during their life. Whether or not White people can/can't do the same I don't know.

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 Post subject: Re: Cremation or burial?
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Absolutely right, no6.

http://www.native-languages.org/legends-afterworld.htm

Native American beliefs about the afterlife vary greatly from tribe to tribe. In the traditions of many Native American tribes, the souls of the dead pass into a spirit world, where they can occasionally still communicate with the living through dreams or the intercession of medicine people. In other tribes there is a more structured land of the dead, often presided over by a god of death or other supernatural caretaker. In some tribes there is no Native American afterlife per se-- dead people are believed to become stars or part of the earth unless they are disturbed and turned into ghosts by grave robbing or other unnatural acts. And in some tribes there is no afterworld at all because the spirits of the dead are reincarnated as new infants within their family or clan.

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I can tell you that one of the reasons for passage of NAGPRA (google it, if you don't know what it is) was that many Native cultures - and obviously not just them - do not like disturbing the remains of their dead ancestors.

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 Post subject: Re: Cremation or burial?
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I'm against both cremation and graveyard or tomb burial. The former because it adds CO2 to the environment, and the latter because it wastes valuable land that would be better to plant trees on. I think bodies should be buried sans coffin next to a healthy tree...providing minerals to the roots.

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 Post subject: Re: Cremation or burial?
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the custardarians are said to believe that if you bury yourself in custard cream pie you will remain creamy and delicious for eternity.

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Mrs. bird once asked me if I wanted to be buried or cremated and I said that I didn’t care because I would be dead. All seriousness aside I think the idea of returning a body to the ground to return elements to the earth ain’t such a bad idea.

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 Post subject: Re: Cremation or burial?
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I don't care. Cremation, burial, disposal by varmints, oh hell pitch my body in the back bay let me float away, I don't care.


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I've specified in my will to be cremated because I think burying people is a waste of good land.

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 Post subject: Re: Cremation or burial?
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Cremated because I want my ashes spread in a special place.

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 Post subject: Re: Cremation or burial?
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What? No taxidermy option?

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 Post subject: Re: Cremation or burial?
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There are other options. There's a green burial, where they basically just throw your body in a hole in a forest, and there's no preservatives.

Then there's water cremation. This is a greener version of cremation. It basically does the same thing as cremation, but in a vat of pressurized water and lye.

Or you could pretend you're in the navy and have your body dumped at sea.

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