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 Post subject: Ultima Thule
PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 4:30 pm 
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Six hours of RF travel time after the New Horizons spacecraft flew past an interesting object in the Kuiper Belt, the signal got back to earth and we learned that the bird was healthy and took around a gigabit of data. This will now be returned, via the Deep Space Network, at about 1 kbps, over a period of 20 months. With a 12-hour turnaround between command and result, DSN scheduling is going to be, well, interesting. A lot of other birds use it too.

And you thought your net connection was slow.

The only thing we know about this primordial object now is that it's shaped like a fuzzy dumbbell. Presumably, we are going to learn a lot more.

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There was some doubt about whether whatever data or images we got from NASA would be available to the public due to the government shutdown. Fortunately, we got the fuzzy images we wanted. :D

The name of this object (is it a planet? a planetoid? a big ass moon?) I find interesting, of course.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thule

Thule (/ˈθjuːliː/ THEW-lee[1] Greek: Θούλη Thoúlē, Latin: Thūlē) was the place located furthest north, which was mentioned in ancient Greek and Roman literature and cartography.

In classical and medieval literature, ultima Thule (Latin "furthermost Thule") acquired a metaphorical meaning of any distant place located beyond the "borders of the known world"

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In Germany, extreme right occultists believed in a historical Thule, or Hyperborea, as the ancient origin of the "Aryan race" (a term which they believed had been used by the Proto-Indo-European people). The Thule Society, which had close links to the Deutsche Arbeiter Partei (DAP), known later as the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (NSDAP or Nazi party) was, according to its own account, founded on August 18, 1918.[50] In his biography of Lanz von Liebenfels (1874–1954), Der Mann, der Hitler die Ideen gab, Munich 1985 – The Man who Gave Hitler the Ideas, the Viennese psychologist and author Wilfried Daim claimed that the Thule Gesellschaft name originated from mythical Thule. In his history of the SA (Mit ruhig festem Schritt, 1998 – With Firm and Steady Step), Wilfred von Oven, Joseph Goebbels' press adjutant from 1943 to 1945, confirmed that Pytheas' Thule was the historical Thule for the Thule Gesellschaft.

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I don't think it's a moon, since it does not seem to be orbiting anything other than the sun. It might be two bodies circling a common center. We don't know yet.

I'm sure whoever named Ultima Thule was thinking of the idea of a place way, way, beyond anything we'd explored. We don't know much about the Kuiper belt except that it's there, and it's probably old stuff that never accreted into planets and all that.

The fact that the Nazis appropriated mythology, not to mention the formerly left-socialist idea of a Worker's Party, is significant, but probably epiphenomenal to the naming of this object.

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First relatively high-res photo is back. It's two lumpy spheres stuck together. The blurry image on left is the color photo, the b/w one in the middle is the "high-res," and the reddish snowman on the right is what they think the object looks like. It's plenty big enough to walk around on. On the order of tens of miles the long way.

They think giga-years of cosmic radiation etc made the color.

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NASA provides first image from record-setting flyby of Ultima Thule

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........Brian May, the guitarist for the legendary rock band Queen and an astrophysicist, is also a participating scientist in the New Horizons mission. He's particularly interested in stereo imaging for this leg of the mission. He was also inspired to release a new song celebrating New Horizons on New Year's Day.

"This mission represents to me the spirit of adventure, discovery and inquiry which is inherent in the human spirit," May said during the countdown to the flyby. He wrote a song to honor the mission called "New Horizons (Ultima Thule Mix).".........


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well thats pretty cool, didnt know Brian May was an astrophysicist

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Chinese lunar rover touches down on moon

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........The far side of the moon is the hemisphere that never faces earth, due to the moon's rotation. It is sometimes mistakenly referred to as the "dark side of the moon," even though it receives just as much sunlight as its earth-facing side.

The success of the mission represents a landmark in human space exploration. The area where the probe has landed faces away from earth, meaning it is free from radio frequencies. As a result, it is not possible for a lunar rover to communicate directly with ground control. To overcome this hurdle, China launched a dedicated satellite orbiting the moon earlier this year that will be able to relay information from the rover to earth..........


Universe to provide exciting astronomical year

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- Stargazers around the world, rejoice! The universe is about to give you an exciting astronomical year.

2019 is featuring five eclipses, a rare planet transit, one of the best meteor showers and a super blood wolf moon, but the fun doesn't stop there.

The new year will also bring three supermoons, a blue moon, multiple meteor showers, close approach by the moon and Jupiter and several rocket launches..........


Super blood wolf moon on the 21st

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NASA provides first image from record-setting flyby of Ultima Thule



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well thats pretty cool, didnt know Brian May was an astrophysicist


I didn't either! I did know that Boston's guitarist led the team at Polaroid that developed the Swinger, lo these many years ago.

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That's probably why no one had landed on the far side of the moon before. It's not any more difficult than landing on the near side, but it's expensive. The only way to get a radio link is through an orbiter, which presumably stores the data and retransmits it when facing Earth.

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I didn't either! I did know that Boston's guitarist led the team at Polaroid that developed the Swinger, lo these many years ago.

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That's probably why no one had landed on the far side of the moon before. It's not any more difficult than landing on the near side, but it's expensive. The only way to get a radio link is through an orbiter, which presumably stores the data and retransmits it when facing Earth.



They are going to grow potatoes probably not the kind matt damon grew on mars though

The far side of the moon: What is it, why we might grow potatoes there

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.........The BBC reports the Chinese lander is carrying six live species from Earth: cotton, rapeseed, fruit fly, yeast, a flowering plant named arabidopsis and potatoes. The goal is to try to form a mini-biosphere.


wonder why no hemp

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