Time to Confront Biden's Age
Time to Confront Biden's Age
It appears evident from recent polls that the only Republican campaign issue that has resonated with the electorate is Biden's age. It's impossible to find hard facts on his suitability for office, because everything that the public sees is conditioned by election year rhetoric. Since the Republicans own the media, they have made this an issue that has enough clout to make a recent NYT poll say that almost half of Democratic responders are nervous about his age.
The reality behind this issue is elusive. Glenn thinks it's everything, but an objective look at the vital statistics of both candidates doesn't show much of a difference. Biden is 3 or 4 years older than drumpf, but they're both old farts. Either one will need a lot of geriatric medicine to make it through 4 years in office, but we're getting good at that. People stay active and lucid longer now.
The facts suggest that Biden's cognition is fine. They also suggest that, even though drumpf is not showing his age and can also still count backwards by seven and remember specific test words after reading a paragraph, he's suffering badly from the same personality disorder he was born with.
Reality never stopped anyone in this media universe. Drumpf isn't a young man, but he plays one on TV. Biden comes off as your old grandpa. You love him, but you have to think twice before trusting him behind the wheel of a Ferrari. (Say, back in the real world, doesn't he drive a Vette? Some kind of nice car, probably one at least assembled by an American union shop. Of course as Potus he doesn't get to drive much.)
It would be a tragedy if this fake age issue decided what the majority of American voters want in their president, but right now if the election were next Tuesday that would probably be the case.
Think of something, fast.
The reality behind this issue is elusive. Glenn thinks it's everything, but an objective look at the vital statistics of both candidates doesn't show much of a difference. Biden is 3 or 4 years older than drumpf, but they're both old farts. Either one will need a lot of geriatric medicine to make it through 4 years in office, but we're getting good at that. People stay active and lucid longer now.
The facts suggest that Biden's cognition is fine. They also suggest that, even though drumpf is not showing his age and can also still count backwards by seven and remember specific test words after reading a paragraph, he's suffering badly from the same personality disorder he was born with.
Reality never stopped anyone in this media universe. Drumpf isn't a young man, but he plays one on TV. Biden comes off as your old grandpa. You love him, but you have to think twice before trusting him behind the wheel of a Ferrari. (Say, back in the real world, doesn't he drive a Vette? Some kind of nice car, probably one at least assembled by an American union shop. Of course as Potus he doesn't get to drive much.)
It would be a tragedy if this fake age issue decided what the majority of American voters want in their president, but right now if the election were next Tuesday that would probably be the case.
Think of something, fast.
"We must remember that we cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation." --Liz Cheney, Republican, 7/21/22
Re: Time to Confront Biden's Age
Like I said in the past, many people are looking at two numbers; 81 and 91. Biden's age is 81 and the number of Trump's indictments is 91.
I'll take the number 81.
I'll take the number 81.
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Re: Time to Confront Biden's Age
The only issue that resonates? Well if you ignore domestic policy issues like inflation and “Bidenomics”. And if you ignore the 8 to 10 millions undocumented migrants and two wars. If you don’t watch the news at all then yeah his age is the only issue that resonates.ZoWie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 1:47 pm It appears evident from recent polls that the only Republican campaign issue that has resonated with the electorate is Biden's age. It's impossible to find hard facts on his suitability for office, because everything that the public sees is conditioned by election year rhetoric. Since the Republicans own the media, they have made this an issue that has enough clout to make a recent NYT poll say that almost half of Democratic responders are nervous about his age.
The reality behind this issue is elusive. Glenn thinks it's everything, but an objective look at the vital statistics of both candidates doesn't show much of a difference. Biden is 3 or 4 years older than drumpf, but they're both old farts. Either one will need a lot of geriatric medicine to make it through 4 years in office, but we're getting good at that. People stay active and lucid longer now.
The facts suggest that Biden's cognition is fine. They also suggest that, even though drumpf is not showing his age and can also still count backwards by seven and remember specific test words after reading a paragraph, he's suffering badly from the same personality disorder he was born with.
Reality never stopped anyone in this media universe. Drumpf isn't a young man, but he plays one on TV. Biden comes off as your old grandpa. You love him, but you have to think twice before trusting him behind the wheel of a Ferrari. (Say, back in the real world, doesn't he drive a Vette? Some kind of nice car, probably one at least assembled by an American union shop. Of course as Potus he doesn't get to drive much.)
It would be a tragedy if this fake age issue decided what the majority of American voters want in their president, but right now if the election were next Tuesday that would probably be the case.
Think of something, fast.
As for his age. Well we as lay people can only rely on what we see because Biden won’t be tested cognitively. Now I’m not an expert on aging but am learning as I age. He looks old and he acts old. He won’t debate. He does not do a lot of interviews or press conferences. Most all his interactions with the public are scripted. What does it all mean? I dunno. Does it prove anything? No. But it doesn’t exactly resolve anything either. Everybody will just have to make up their own mind.
I still say that the country could and should do a whole lot better that these two front runners. Please tell me this isn’t the best we can do. If it is then we are surely and truly screwed.
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You mean the lowest unemployment rate in 50 years, more people working than ever before, the stock market at record highs, moving microchip production back to the U.S., and $1.2 trillion to help fix our infrastructure problem which will create jobs, etc.?JoeMemphis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 2:24 pm The only issue that resonates? Well if you ignore domestic policy issues like inflation and “Bidenomics”. And if you ignore the 8 to 10 millions undocumented migrants and two wars. If you don’t watch the news at all then yeah his age is the only issue that resonates.
There has to be valid reasons for requiring a cognitive test. As far as you or I goes, neither one of us is trained or has the knowledge to say he needs one. His medical doctor didn't suspect him to have a cognition problem during Biden's recent physical. Biden does have some physical aliments but who doesn't.As for his age. Well we as lay people can only rely on what we see because Biden won’t be tested cognitively. Now I’m not an expert on aging but am learning as I age. He looks old and he acts old. He won’t debate. He does not do a lot of interviews or press conferences. Most all his interactions with the public are scripted. What does it all mean? I dunno. Does it prove anything? No. But it doesn’t exactly resolve anything either. Everybody will just have to make up their own mind.
Like who?I still say that the country could and should do a whole lot better that these two front runners. Please tell me this isn’t the best we can do. If it is then we are surely and truly screwed.
When you vote left, you vote right.
Re: Time to Confront Biden's Age
Joe, your side is picking Trump. You should deal with YOUR side first.
And the ONLY issue you have is the border, and you screwed the pooch on that, when Trump killed the bipartisan bill that your side should love. You gave the issue back to Biden to beat you up over.
Your thinking the economy is an issue for you guys shows just how delusional YOU are.
And BTW, Joe, who said Biden won’t debate? He’s the lone candidate on the Dem side. It’s not time to have national debates of the final candidates. It’s YOUR side’s nominee that won’t debate. And it’s not really time for Biden to REALLY start campaigning in earnest - that’s AFTER the GOP Convention.
So keep making shit up Joe.
And the ONLY issue you have is the border, and you screwed the pooch on that, when Trump killed the bipartisan bill that your side should love. You gave the issue back to Biden to beat you up over.
Your thinking the economy is an issue for you guys shows just how delusional YOU are.
And BTW, Joe, who said Biden won’t debate? He’s the lone candidate on the Dem side. It’s not time to have national debates of the final candidates. It’s YOUR side’s nominee that won’t debate. And it’s not really time for Biden to REALLY start campaigning in earnest - that’s AFTER the GOP Convention.
So keep making shit up Joe.
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gounion wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 3:32 pm Joe, your side is picking Trump. You should deal with YOUR side first.
And the ONLY issue you have is the border, and you screwed the pooch on that, when Trump killed the bipartisan bill that your side should love. You gave the issue back to Biden to beat you up over.
Your thinking the economy is an issue for you guys shows just how delusional YOU are.
You are once again half right. The fact is both sides are delusional. On one hand we have people ignoring the corruption of Trump who BTW isn't exactly a paragon of mental acuity.
On the other hand we have people who ignore what we see before our very eyes. We have a president who talks to dead people and has a hard time putting forth a thought which isn't scripted out for him on a teleprompter or index cards.
As for the job he has done look at interest rates look at gas prices look at the border crisis.
Look at home prices look at rent look at the price of groceries.
Look at what is happening in the middle east look at what Putin is doing.
It has been failure after failure after failure.
So what does the democratic party want to campaign on....abortion and LBGTQ rights. Things which are important to people who are going to vote for the democratic party anyway. Because in my opinion yhe people in charge are people like you who only see and understand those things they support and are important to them. With zero.zero ability to look at the other side and even attempt to understand where they are coming from.
The democratic party is currently behind and they had better come up with a way to reach all those voters in flyover country in battle ground states or we are going to see another 4 years of Trump.
As piss poor a president that Biden is Trump would be worse. Especially coming into office with the country and world in such a mess.
The first time he won things were going along pretty smoothly. He did about a C minus job at best. Until the pandemic hit. At which time he demonstrated he has zero ability to lead.
Hopefully with Biden whomever it is pulling the strings will be able to keep us at least treading water for 4 years......hopefully.
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Yep lots of issues resonate. Some to his benefit. Others not so much. As far as cognitive testing. As I said, all of this is scripted and we only know what we see. Everyone will have to make up their own mind as to whether they believe his age is a factor.Number6 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 2:43 pm You mean the lowest unemployment rate in 50 years, more people working than ever before, the stock market at record highs, moving microchip production back to the U.S., and $1.2 trillion to help fix our infrastructure problem which will create jobs, etc.?
There has to be valid reasons for requiring a cognitive test. As far as you or I goes, neither one of us is trained or has the knowledge to say he needs one. His medical doctor didn't suspect him to have a cognition problem during Biden's recent physical. Biden does have some physical aliments but who doesn't.
Like who?
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Trump seems to be worsening by the day. I know you’ll defend everything Trump says or does.JoeMemphis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 4:26 pm Yep lots of issues resonate. Some to his benefit. Others not so much. As far as cognitive testing. As I said, all of this is scripted and we only know what we see. Everyone will have to make up their own mind as to whether they believe his age is a factor.
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There you go showing your bias. Trump is also slowing and slipping. But he is nowhere near as bad as Biden. At least not yet Biden has now talked to dead people I believe 3 times.
Neither man has the mental capacity to be president
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Biden can pronounce words. Trump can’t. Biden also doesn’t act like he’s running against GW Bush.
Again, Biden is a strong President. You’ve just built this fantasy about him, and you don’t let reality intrude.
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Sure he is and 70pct of the people got it wrong
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 93481.html
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Glennfs wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 7:04 pm Sure he is and 70pct of the people got it wrong
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 93481.html
Trump fell asleep in the meeting with the judge the other day. But hey, that’s okay. Anything to defend Dear Leader.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_NeY0I-Ook
No More Money to Murder Children
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig-p2hHwmCU
The United States of America cannot allow the wholesale slaughter of the Palestinian people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSb3srONXnI
Filmmaker Michael Moore says Michigan's 'Uncommitted' campaign can save Biden from himself
The media does not discuss working class issues
Poor voters and voters of color may be key on Super Tuesday. Will 'enthusiasm gap' hurt?
No More Money to Murder Children
Not concerned much about Biden's age its his orientation to war and economics that need to be considered. He is very skilled and dedicated and cognitively able in keeping the 2 wars fed and worshipped, but when it comes to Palestinian people they are facing mass starvation in the most brutal conditions, Israeli hostages and their families remain without relief and Americans also not being fed or housed or treated justly as they labor endlessly and remain condemned through debt and lack and various inequalities.The United States has got to say loudly and clearly to Netanyahu and his right-wing government: You are not getting another nickel of U.S. taxpayer money to murder women and children in Gaza.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig-p2hHwmCU
The United States of America cannot allow the wholesale slaughter of the Palestinian people.
With America's democracy hanging in the balance these issues are all the more disturbingThe United States of America cannot allow the wholesale slaughter of the Palestinian people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSb3srONXnI
Filmmaker Michael Moore says Michigan's 'Uncommitted' campaign can save Biden from himself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml0CiWpeJaEDuring Michigan's Democratic Primary on Tuesday night, more than 100-thousand voters sent a message to President Biden by casting an "uncommitted" vote in protest of his administration's handling of Israel's war on Gaza. Academy-award winning filmmaker Michael Moore joins MSNBC's Ayman Mohyeldin to discuss why President Biden must change course ahead of the November election.
The media does not discuss working class issues
There is hope but it comes from the places and people who the wars and economics and world leaders are oriented against right now. The people who are ignored and who's humanity, security are not represented or valued by their leaders, world leaders.If you watch television in America, the word working class will never, ever be used.
This country likes to pretend we are a classless society, where three people just happen to own more wealth than the bottom half of America.
It’s time to change that status quo.
Poor voters and voters of color may be key on Super Tuesday. Will 'enthusiasm gap' hurt?
It takes someone who really believes in democracy and justice and human rights, dignity of the most vulnerable to break through this time, and for whom those things are bigger than their war and hero and economic fantasies.Organizers are banking on hundreds of low-income workers and others showing up with bullhorns and signs in key battleground states Saturday to urge their peers to vote.
At least a dozen states will hold presidential primaries for Super Tuesday, and the Poor People's Campaign wants to ensure voices like theirs are heard then and on Election Day in November.
“We’re going to wake the sleeping giant,’’ said William Barber, national co-chair of the Poor People’s Campaign. “At these rallies poor and low-wage people are going to be the major speakers and calling their peers to action. Then we’re going to go out and do the hard work.’’
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No comrade I am not defending Trump
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Glenn doesn't get that, by repeating half-formed thoughts and facile generalizations gleaned from Internet chatter, he's part of the problem. I have no problem with Glenn voting for anyone he prefers, it IS a republic after all (if we can keep it). I have a problem with low information voters, because our duty to serve the republic is to inform them and we (all of us) have allowed whispering campaigns, Internet chatter, and corporate-owned media to control the means of communication regarding these matters.
This is not how you run a democratic (small d) republic.
By the way, it's weird when the best philosophical description of our current situation comes from an old comic strip, but indeed we have met the enemy and it is us.
This is not how you run a democratic (small d) republic.
By the way, it's weird when the best philosophical description of our current situation comes from an old comic strip, but indeed we have met the enemy and it is us.
"We must remember that we cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation." --Liz Cheney, Republican, 7/21/22
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I think this is pretty big. Alaska Republican Senator Lisa Murkowsky has announced that she cannot and will not vote for Donald Trump in 2024. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/lisa-mur ... a2475a0ce3
She has endorsed and is recommending Nikki Haley for President.
I think this is pretty damned big. NO Senator in 2020 made such a public and definitive statement. I don't think she'll be alone either.
Trump is publicly ejecting anyone that supports Nikki Haley from "MAGA" - it's astonishing that Trump, instead of trying to grow his support, is publicly doing everything he can to ONLY get support from his most fervent base.
I think the "never Trumpers" among GOP voters will only grow as he ups his antics.
But I'm sure Glenn will tell us that it's okay, that Trump will win anyway, and it'll be the democrat's fault.
She has endorsed and is recommending Nikki Haley for President.
I think this is pretty damned big. NO Senator in 2020 made such a public and definitive statement. I don't think she'll be alone either.
Trump is publicly ejecting anyone that supports Nikki Haley from "MAGA" - it's astonishing that Trump, instead of trying to grow his support, is publicly doing everything he can to ONLY get support from his most fervent base.
I think the "never Trumpers" among GOP voters will only grow as he ups his antics.
But I'm sure Glenn will tell us that it's okay, that Trump will win anyway, and it'll be the democrat's fault.
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If Trump doesn't win you will have Republicans like me to thank.gounion wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 6:00 pm I think this is pretty big. Alaska Republican Senator Lisa Murkowsky has announced that she cannot and will not vote for Donald Trump in 2024. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/lisa-mur ... a2475a0ce3
She has endorsed and is recommending Nikki Haley for President.
I think this is pretty damned big. NO Senator in 2020 made such a public and definitive statement. I don't think she'll be alone either.
Trump is publicly ejecting anyone that supports Nikki Haley from "MAGA" - it's astonishing that Trump, instead of trying to grow his support, is publicly doing everything he can to ONLY get support from his most fervent base.
I think the "never Trumpers" among GOP voters will only grow as he ups his antics.
But I'm sure Glenn will tell us that it's okay, that Trump will win anyway, and it'll be the democrat's fault.
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How many times in the last 15 years have you declared the republican party dead.
Try to be objective for just 30 seconds. As bad as Trump is the GOP has the House and are only 1 seat behind in the Senate.
The country is center to center right and overwhelming rejects the radical liberalism that you support. With the exception of California, New York City and a handful of other cities.
As bad as Trump is if his stank were on the party it would already be there and Biden would be a slam dunk with the democratic party having large majorities in both the house and senate.
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Keep defending Trump - you always do. Tell us how the nation loves him. Go ahead.Glennfs wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:24 pm How many times in the last 15 years have you declared the republican party dead.
Try to be objective for just 30 seconds. As bad as Trump is the GOP has the House and are only 1 seat behind in the Senate.
The country is center to center right and overwhelming rejects the radical liberalism that you support. With the exception of California, New York City and a handful of other cities.
As bad as Trump is if his stank were on the party it would already be there and Biden would be a slam dunk with the democratic party having large majorities in both the house and senate.
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Talking to you about politics is exactly like talking to my grandfather about religion.
Nowhere in what I said did I defend Trump. In fact I went out of my way to put Trump down at least twice.
But once again because you have lost yet again you invoke the name of Trump. In yet another failed attempt at a hail Mary
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Biden needs some image work. Maybe an acting lesson or two and an honest critique. Drumpf is winning not because he's a man of the people but because he plays one on TV/
My posts often seem reductionistic because I explain everything in terms of media appeal. Well, since that's how we communicate now, what's the problem? You go to war with the media you have, not the ones you want.
My posts often seem reductionistic because I explain everything in terms of media appeal. Well, since that's how we communicate now, what's the problem? You go to war with the media you have, not the ones you want.
"We must remember that we cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation." --Liz Cheney, Republican, 7/21/22
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Maybe instead of ignoring his appeal as a “man of the people” and debating on whether he is sincere or not, the question you should be asking is why? Why does this appeal to the “people”? And why doesn’t Biden’s policies have that same appeal? Why does this man with all his baggage and bullshit lead in the latest polls? If Biden’s policies are soooo great, why are his poll numbers in the shitter and he is running neck and neck with a man like Trump?ZoWie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 11:38 am Biden needs some image work. Maybe an acting lesson or two and an honest critique. Drumpf is winning not because he's a man of the people but because he plays one on TV/
My posts often seem reductionistic because I explain everything in terms of media appeal. Well, since that's how we communicate now, what's the problem? You go to war with the media you have, not the ones you want.
People are ignoring the personalities and faults of Trump not because they like Biden’s policies. If they liked Biden’s policies, Trump wouldnt be a factor. The Democrats don’t have a messaging problem, they have a policy problem.
Neither party is dealing with the national debt, deficit spending, and entitlement reform. That is the next major down cycle on the horizon. Both parties are whistling past the graveyard.