Disloyal Jews!
Disloyal Jews!
Ya know, I've been accused of wanting to destroy America on random MBs, but not by the guy auditioning for a second chance at mismanagement of the country.
What a wonderful Rosh Hashanah message.
Trump accuses 'liberal Jews' of voting to 'destroy America and Israel' in Rosh Hashanah message
The post on Trump's Truth Social account came on the weekend of the Jewish New Year.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald ... rcna105540
Former President Donald Trump on Sunday night shared a post on his Truth Social platform that accused "liberal Jews" of voting to "destroy" America and Israel.
“Just a quick reminder for liberal Jews who voted to destroy America & Israel because you believed in false narratives!" said the post, which came on the weekend of Rosh Hashanah, the Jewish New Year. "Let’s hope you learned from your mistake & make better choices moving forward!”
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Other groups, however, said Trump’s post plays into antisemitic tropes that American Jews have dual loyalties to the U.S. and Israel. The content of the post also mirrors his past remarks claiming broad support in Israel for his policies, in contrast with many Jewish voters in the U.S., who often vote Democratic.
Reached for comment, the American Jewish Committee pointed to a tweet it posted Monday that condemned Trump's post: "Claiming that American Jews who did not vote for Mr. Trump voted to destroy America and Israel is deeply offensive and divisive."
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'Whether or not it’s intentional, President Trump is playing into conspiracy theories about dual loyalty here," he said. "Even worse, this is happening on one of the holiest days of the Jewish calendar, Rosh Hashanah. Even as an organization that supported many of these policy decisions, ADL doesn’t believe that our community needs to be lectured about how to vote.”
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The Jerusalem Post’s then-editor-in-chief, Yaakov Katz, tweeted: “Nothing to see here. Just a former US president using threatening language about American Jews at a time when antisemitism is on a global rise."
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I want to destroy Israel? Nope, I have dozens of relatives who live there. As for destroying America, well, I'm sorry if I don't think it's the greatest country in the history of the world evah, but that doesn't mean I want to destroy it, either.
Right now, I think it has a deep anti-Semitism problem, and the chief demagogue of the GQP is throwing fuel on the fire.
70% of American Jews did vote for Biden in 2020. Typical and not unusual. I don't think this kind of demagoguery will move the needle of "Jexit".
All I can say is those who say they won't vote for the lesser of two evils, usually are not the ones facing the heat of the greater evil.
What a wonderful Rosh Hashanah message.
Trump accuses 'liberal Jews' of voting to 'destroy America and Israel' in Rosh Hashanah message
The post on Trump's Truth Social account came on the weekend of the Jewish New Year.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald ... rcna105540
Former President Donald Trump on Sunday night shared a post on his Truth Social platform that accused "liberal Jews" of voting to "destroy" America and Israel.
“Just a quick reminder for liberal Jews who voted to destroy America & Israel because you believed in false narratives!" said the post, which came on the weekend of Rosh Hashanah, the Jewish New Year. "Let’s hope you learned from your mistake & make better choices moving forward!”
[snip]
Other groups, however, said Trump’s post plays into antisemitic tropes that American Jews have dual loyalties to the U.S. and Israel. The content of the post also mirrors his past remarks claiming broad support in Israel for his policies, in contrast with many Jewish voters in the U.S., who often vote Democratic.
Reached for comment, the American Jewish Committee pointed to a tweet it posted Monday that condemned Trump's post: "Claiming that American Jews who did not vote for Mr. Trump voted to destroy America and Israel is deeply offensive and divisive."
[snip]
'Whether or not it’s intentional, President Trump is playing into conspiracy theories about dual loyalty here," he said. "Even worse, this is happening on one of the holiest days of the Jewish calendar, Rosh Hashanah. Even as an organization that supported many of these policy decisions, ADL doesn’t believe that our community needs to be lectured about how to vote.”
[snip]
The Jerusalem Post’s then-editor-in-chief, Yaakov Katz, tweeted: “Nothing to see here. Just a former US president using threatening language about American Jews at a time when antisemitism is on a global rise."
[snip][end]
I want to destroy Israel? Nope, I have dozens of relatives who live there. As for destroying America, well, I'm sorry if I don't think it's the greatest country in the history of the world evah, but that doesn't mean I want to destroy it, either.
Right now, I think it has a deep anti-Semitism problem, and the chief demagogue of the GQP is throwing fuel on the fire.
70% of American Jews did vote for Biden in 2020. Typical and not unusual. I don't think this kind of demagoguery will move the needle of "Jexit".
All I can say is those who say they won't vote for the lesser of two evils, usually are not the ones facing the heat of the greater evil.
"Don't believe every quote attributed to people on the Internet" -- Abraham Lincoln
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This is a message Republicans LOVE. They no longer have to pretend they don't hate Jews.
I remember when Glenn would constantly quote the Anti-Defamation League. I notice he doesn't listen to them anymore.
Or say a word about the antisemitism from the GOP.
I remember when Glenn would constantly quote the Anti-Defamation League. I notice he doesn't listen to them anymore.
Or say a word about the antisemitism from the GOP.
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Republicans do not hate Jews. Personally I find the hatred of Jewish people under the guise of those who oppose Israel.
Also the Congressman from Minnesota definitely hates Jewish people and nobody on the left will admit it.
As for Trump he once again shows why he should not be our next president.
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I oppose a number of Israel's policies but I don't hate Jewish people.
I don't hate anyone because of their religion. What they do with their religion, that's where I have issues.
I don't hate anyone because of their religion. What they do with their religion, that's where I have issues.
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Yet you can't bring yourself to actually criticize Trump.Glennfs wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:34 am Republicans do not hate Jews. Personally I find the hatred of Jewish people under the guise of those who oppose Israel.
Also the Congressman from Minnesota definitely hates Jewish people and nobody on the left will admit it.
As for Trump he once again shows why he should not be our next president.
The fact that NO ONE on the right will stand up to his antisemitism shows they feel the same way he does.
And Israel isn't Judaism. They have a Trump running that country.
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Only in your mind is saying once again Trump shows why he should not be our next president is considering defending Trump
https://youtu.be/jLO7VrRij_M?feature=shared
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Thing is, Glenn, it's NOT really criticizing him. You're not calling him out for his antisemitism. You just use it to accuse the left of being antisemitic.
You are just playing a passive/aggressive game on Trump.
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And you've got to protect Dear Leader. It's what Vlad would want.
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And here I thought what X posted might turn into a discussion....my mistake....again
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Israel is a very small country confronted by a number of much bigger ones. Its original borders ceded the high ground. You can't compare it with the USA.
Even though it is completely different than here, it has the same issues with leadership that the US does. Seems like every few years there is a lot of sound and fury, and then an election with rather peculiar rules. Every time, when the dust settles and the bodies are buried, old Bibi has come out on top again. He never really wins over the most voters, but he navigates the system in a way that makes him come out on top when it's time to build coalitions.
Also, he really is their version of The Donald. He appeals straight to the adrenal cortex and bypasses the brain.
Even though it is completely different than here, it has the same issues with leadership that the US does. Seems like every few years there is a lot of sound and fury, and then an election with rather peculiar rules. Every time, when the dust settles and the bodies are buried, old Bibi has come out on top again. He never really wins over the most voters, but he navigates the system in a way that makes him come out on top when it's time to build coalitions.
Also, he really is their version of The Donald. He appeals straight to the adrenal cortex and bypasses the brain.
"We must remember that we cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation." --Liz Cheney, Republican, 7/21/22
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I think BiBi has run his course and we will be seeing new leaders in Israel going forward.ZoWie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:16 am Israel is a very small country confronted by a number of much bigger ones. Its original borders ceded the high ground. You can't compare it with the USA.
Even though it is completely different than here, it has the same issues with leadership that the US does. Seems like every few years there is a lot of sound and fury, and then an election with rather peculiar rules. Every time, when the dust settles and the bodies are buried, old Bibi has come out on top again. He never really wins over the most voters, but he navigates the system in a way that makes him come out on top when it's time to build coalitions.
Also, he really is their version of The Donald. He appeals straight to the adrenal cortex and bypasses the brain.
No matter who they are or where they stand Israel's neighbors will never accept any Israeli state.
" I am a socialist " Bernie Sanders
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He just won another term.
"We must remember that we cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation." --Liz Cheney, Republican, 7/21/22
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[bold]And every time she's said stupid things it's the left that takes her to task and forces her to apologize. i sure do wish the right would do the same with some of their own.Glennfs wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:34 am Republicans do not hate Jews. Personally I find the hatred of Jewish people under the guise of those who oppose Israel.
Also the Congressman from Minnesota definitely hates Jewish people and nobody on the left will admit it.
As for Trump he once again shows why he should not be our next president.
I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat. [Will Rogers]
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Wow, just like the GOP will never accept a Democratic administration, no matter if it's freely elected by the people or not.
Tell me again why they are impeaching Biden?
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Yeah, they won't say shit about Lauren Boebert and her public sexual show. Hell, if she gave him public oral sex they'd be okay with it. They'd probably all get copies of the video.
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The big problems right now in Israel involve what Bibi & Likud are calling "judicial reform". Many of their critics would say it is them neutering Israel's courts from blocking efforts to dispossess Palestinians or investigating Likud corruption. Seems like Likud is going to steamroll that through the Knesset.
I would say there really is a core problem that dates from the very beginning. Israel has no Constitution, only some Basic Laws that enable and define its branches of government. It might be a really good time to draft one. Other than that, it has a parliamentary system, which produces paradoxical outcomes, as it does in Britain, Italy, etc.
Personally, while I do think there is anti-Semitism on the left that sometimes hides behind criticism of Israel (this was an issue in the UK Labor Party and it cost them), it's not those folks who are hanging swastikas off bridges here in Florida. The neo-Nazis and white-nats are the worse threat here in the U.S., and the ADL says so.
BTW, Judaism is a religion, but I would argue Jews are also an ethnic group. It's more complicated than that.
I would say there really is a core problem that dates from the very beginning. Israel has no Constitution, only some Basic Laws that enable and define its branches of government. It might be a really good time to draft one. Other than that, it has a parliamentary system, which produces paradoxical outcomes, as it does in Britain, Italy, etc.
Personally, while I do think there is anti-Semitism on the left that sometimes hides behind criticism of Israel (this was an issue in the UK Labor Party and it cost them), it's not those folks who are hanging swastikas off bridges here in Florida. The neo-Nazis and white-nats are the worse threat here in the U.S., and the ADL says so.
BTW, Judaism is a religion, but I would argue Jews are also an ethnic group. It's more complicated than that.
"Don't believe every quote attributed to people on the Internet" -- Abraham Lincoln
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He's younger than either front runner for our presidency.
He's one of those people with a rifle up his ass who was born mean.
He's one of those people with a rifle up his ass who was born mean.
"We must remember that we cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation." --Liz Cheney, Republican, 7/21/22
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The ADL is definitely correct about dangers in the USA. I find it so odd that throughout world history Jewish people have always been such a whipping boy.ProfX wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:33 am The big problems right now in Israel involve what Bibi & Likud are calling "judicial reform". Many of their critics would say it is them neutering Israel's courts from blocking efforts to dispossess Palestinians or investigating Likud corruption. Seems like Likud is going to steamroll that through the Knesset.
I would say there really is a core problem that dates from the very beginning. Israel has no Constitution, only some Basic Laws that enable and define its branches of government. It might be a really good time to draft one. Other than that, it has a parliamentary system, which produces paradoxical outcomes, as it does in Britain, Italy, etc.
Personally, while I do think there is anti-Semitism on the left that sometimes hides behind criticism of Israel (this was an issue in the UK Labor Party and it cost them), it's not those folks who are hanging swastikas off bridges here in Florida. The neo-Nazis and white-nats are the worse threat here in the U.S., and the ADL says so.
BTW, Judaism is a religion, but I would argue Jews are also an ethnic group. It's more complicated than that.
Especially considering they have never done anything to deserve any hatred.
You would have thought that after WWII the world would have moved on.
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The ADL called for Trump to be removed from office. https://www.adl.org/resources/press-rel ... ved-officeGlennfs wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:40 am The ADL is definitely correct about dangers in the USA. I find it so odd that throughout world history Jewish people have always been such a whipping boy.
Especially considering they have never done anything to deserve any hatred.
You would have thought that after WWII the world would have moved on.
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The kind of people who are the problem in the US right now never move on. They haven't changed since at least the end of feudalism. You can't teach a rock to sing. They believe in rule by the strong, or at least by the ones who can get off the most rounds the fastest.
Our problem is a process that automatically identifies the worst among us, casts them in what are essentially dramatic roles, gives them maximum media exposure, and as a consequence usually elevates them to positions of power.
Our problem is a process that automatically identifies the worst among us, casts them in what are essentially dramatic roles, gives them maximum media exposure, and as a consequence usually elevates them to positions of power.
"We must remember that we cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation." --Liz Cheney, Republican, 7/21/22
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Our media embraces whomever is going to get them the best ratings.ZoWie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:49 am The kind of people who are the problem in the US right now never move on. They haven't changed since at least the end of feudalism. You can't teach a rock to sing. They believe in rule by the strong, or at least by the ones who can get off the most rounds the fastest.
Our problem is a process that automatically identifies the worst among us, casts them in what are essentially dramatic roles, gives them maximum media exposure, and as a consequence usually elevates them to positions of power.
Morning Joe us a great example.
" I am a socialist " Bernie Sanders