And this is why we don't vote for Democrats

[Glennfs]

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/cal ... se-gas-tax

California already out poorest state, already the worst state for just regular blue collar every day people to live.
California where regular folks can't afford to buy a house. California where gas prices and taxes are already highest in the nation.

California the state Democrats have run into the ground.
So what are the good liberals who run that state going to do to help people at a time when we are on the brink of recession. At a time when bidenflation has prices at record highs.
The democratic party is going to the thing it always does. Raise taxes hurting the people they claim to care so much about. Giving families even less spending money.
But don't despair I am sure they will increase welfare benefits. Because as we all know the more dependent the democratic party can make people on the Gov't the better chance they have at retaining power.

[Drak]

Another trolling thread repeating a lot the same debunked nonsense in order to get a rise out of people on a LIBERAL message board.

California is the 5th largest economy in the world.

California has not been driven into the ground by Dems. See above.

California is not the poorest state in America. It currently sits at 21. PR, Mississippi, Louisiana, New Mexico, West Virginia, Kentucky, Arkansas, Alabama, DC, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee etc., all come in poorer. Wow, look at all those red states!

Joe Biden is not responsible for world wide inflation or high world wide gas prices. Anyone who is honest or not a moron can branch out and view data instead of repeating what they read on Breitbart.

Meanwhile, the GOP plan on raising taxes on all Americans (see Rick Scott) as well as eliminate SS Medicare etc.

Meanwhile, The GOP attempted a coup, worships a batcrap crazy treasonous lunatic as their leader, and is attempting to destroy democracy.

[Glennfs]

Another trolling thread repeating a lot the same debunked nonsense in order to get a rise out of people on a LIBERAL message board.

California is the 5th largest economy in the world.

California has not been driven into the ground by Dems. See above.

California is not the poorest state in America. It currently sits at 21. PR, Mississippi, Louisiana, New Mexico, West Virginia, Kentucky, Arkansas, Alabama, DC, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee etc., all come in poorer. Wow, look at all those red states!

Joe Biden is not responsible for world wide inflation or high world wide gas prices. Anyone who is honest or not a moron can branch out and view data instead of repeating what they read on Breitbart.

Meanwhile, the GOP plan on raising taxes on all Americans (see Rick Scott) as well as eliminate SS Medicare etc.

Meanwhile, The GOP attempted a coup, worships a batcrap crazy treasonous lunatic as their leader, and is attempting to destroy democracy.

Every thing you don't agree with is trolling

I've shown time and again how California is our poorest state. How regular people can't afford housing.
The reason the numbers are where they are is because California has so many wealthy people.
It is classic haves and have nots with very few in between. Basically it is exactly what so many on the left preach about and against.
But because California is populated with limousine liberals the truth is ignored.

The fact is a couple in Mississippi earning 50 to 60k combined can afford to buy a home.
In California that same couple earning twice that can't.

[Glennfs]

https://www.businessinsider.com/califor ... eau-2021-9

Highest poverty level

[bradman]

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/cal ... se-gas-tax

California already out poorest state, already the worst state for just regular blue collar every day people to live.
California where regular folks can't afford to buy a house. California where gas prices and taxes are already highest in the nation.

California the state Democrats have run into the ground.
So what are the good liberals who run that state going to do to help people at a time when we are on the brink of recession. At a time when bidenflation has prices at record highs.
The democratic party is going to the thing it always does. Raise taxes hurting the people they claim to care so much about. Giving families even less spending money.
But don't despair I am sure they will increase welfare benefits. Because as we all know the more dependent the democratic party can make people on the Gov't the better chance they have at retaining power.

There you go again.

If you look at the big picture, California has the 5th largest economy in the world. That's ahead of India and behind Germany. It's very expensive to maintain that kind of population and infrastructure. Building it is easy. It's once built that the problems arise. The cost of maintaining it doubles and triples in price. Take Detroit as a once great city in decline. Instead of rebuilding an auto plant that was built in the 60's, it's much more cost effective to abandon it and build new somewhere else. Usually in a far off state that's giving away free land.

Now here's the thing. If you were to plop that kind of infrastructure down in lets say the middle of Georgia and make it the 5th largest economy in the world, i could damn near guarantee Georgia would run into the same kind of problems in maintaining it. Be careful what you wish for.....

Or at least get ready for it.......

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/report ... -deficient
Report: Hundreds of Georgia bridges 'structurally deficient'

ATLANTA - Hundreds of bridges in Georgia have been classified as "struturally deficient" according to a new report

The report, released by the American Road & Transportation Builders Association, reveals of the 14,964 bridges in Georgia, 374 of them, or 2.5%, are structurally deficient. That means one of the key elements of the bridge is in poor or worse condition.

You're going to need those bridges and more. Better figure out who's going to pay for it.

[Libertas]

Maybe CA would have less poverty if they didnt have to literally support ALL of the red states with federal dollars.

[Bludogdem]

There you go again.

If you look at the big picture, California has the 5th largest economy in the world. That's ahead of India and behind Germany. It's very expensive to maintain that kind of population and infrastructure. Building it is easy. It's once built that the problems arise. The cost of maintaining it doubles and triples in price. Take Detroit as a once great city in decline. Instead of rebuilding an auto plant that was built in the 60's, it's much more cost effective to abandon it and build new somewhere else. Usually in a far off state that's giving away free land.

Now here's the thing. If you were to plop that kind of infrastructure down in lets say the middle of Georgia and make it the 5th largest economy in the world, i could damn near guarantee Georgia would run into the same kind of problems in maintaining it. Be careful what you wish for.....

Or at least get ready for it.......

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/report ... -deficient
Report: Hundreds of Georgia bridges 'structurally deficient'


You're going to need those bridges and more. Better figure out who's going to pay for it.

It appears that California already has a higher rate of structurally deficient bridges than Georgia.

https://artbabridgereport.org/state/map

[ProfX]

Top ten poorest states
https://www.fcnl.org/updates/2021-11/to ... -states-us

These states and territories have the highest percentages of poverty in the country: Mississippi, Louisiana, New Mexico, Kentucky, Arkansas, West Virginia, Alabama, the District of Columbia, South Carolina, and Georgia.

[Bludogdem]

Top ten poorest states
https://www.fcnl.org/updates/2021-11/to ... -states-us

These states and territories have the highest percentages of poverty in the country: Mississippi, Louisiana, New Mexico, Kentucky, Arkansas, West Virginia, Alabama, the District of Columbia, South Carolina, and Georgia.

U.S. Census

https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Cens ... 9e867256b8

Page 28 table 5.

California has the highest poverty rate.

[Drak]

Real estate markets are set by desirability and location. California in general is a desirable location, with a booming economy and a higher median income than say Mississippi, which is about half that.

This is how Capitalism works. Conservatives complaining about this are on point with what the party stands for, which isn’t anything really, outside of the racism, misogyny and anti gay policies. But Conservatives no longer believe in the free market or how business are allowed to operate. Businesses have to do what they’re told or they’ll be punished. They don’t believe in freedom of speech (see book burning and banning) and they don’t believe in free and fair elections. They don’t believe in the Constitution.

[Drak]

U.S. Census

https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Cens ... 9e867256b8

Page 28 table 5.

California has the highest poverty rate.

Where does table 5 on page 28 of your link from 2019 show that California has the highest poverty rate in the USA? Maybe you can break it down.

The percentage of the population in poverty in Mississippi is higher than California.

[ZoWie]

The concept of a poverty rate in California is a nebulous one at best. Given that everyone's rapidly polarizing toward either the very wealthy or the desperately poor, with everyone else wanting to move out, statistics aren't much use for anything. All that California tells us is that the system isn't working.

The free market has been a Republican buzzword and not much else for at least sixty years now. It never worked, and it was never as free as people think it was. "Some will rob you with a six-gun, some will rob you with a fountain pen."

Before government stepped in, monopolies and conspiracies against free trade were standard procedure. After government was again partially removed from the process, with ronnie ray gun turning the bull loose and all that shit, all the abuses came back, only this time on a transnational level. Everything since has been a corrosive process that has served mostly to put the middle class into its worst position in a century. People are fleeing cities because the times are out of joint.

Hey, but keep voting in those rich white privileged yacht-buying stock-manipulating politician-buying corporate assholes in their $1200 suits to work in your interest................

[Libertas]

https://twitter.com/middleageriot/statu ... of0zc9myrg

Donald Trump conspired with Russia to steal an election, blackmailed the Ukrainian president to dig up dirt on his political rival, used the power of the U.S. government to increase the wealth of himself and his family, and incited an insurrection.

Republicans: "Impeach Biden!"

Yeah, this is why you dont vote for Democrats.

[Libertas]

Top ten poorest states
https://www.fcnl.org/updates/2021-11/to ... -states-us

These states and territories have the highest percentages of poverty in the country: Mississippi, Louisiana, New Mexico, Kentucky, Arkansas, West Virginia, Alabama, the District of Columbia, South Carolina, and Georgia.

Darn facts.

[Glennfs]

Darn facts.

25pct of the people living in California live in poverty according to the US government

[ProfX]

Uh, no.

First off, that table is a three year average measure from 2017 to 2019. That aide,

Table 5 in that Census report lists California's official poverty rate, the # of people under official federal poverty threshold, as 11.4%. In that column, the highest states are LA and Miss, each with rates at 19%.

Under the Census' Statistical Poverty Measure (SPM), calculated uniquely by the Census department itself - BTW not used by other government agencies, and we can debate whether it is a better index - California's is 17.2%. The highest in that column. Second highest state (DC is not a state) is again LA, at 16.2%. You can read elsewhere in that document how the Census calculates SPM vs. the official poverty rate of DoL, HHS, etc.

Seems no matter how you measure, Louisiana is pretty poor.

BTW, saying 25% of Californians are living in poverty is pulling from your ass.

[ProfX]

U.S. Poverty Rate By State In 2021
https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewdepi ... ab0bfe1b38

[snip]

Here are the 10 states with the highest poverty rates as of the latest Census data:

1. Mississippi: 20.3% of population lives below the poverty line
Louisiana: 19.2% of population lives below the poverty line
New Mexico: 19.1% of population lives below the poverty line
West Virginia: 17.6% of population lives below the poverty line
Kentucky: 17.3% of population lives below the poverty line
Arkansas: 17.0% of population lives below the poverty line
Alabama: 16.7% of population lives below the poverty line
Oklahoma: 15.7% of population lives below the poverty line
Tennessee: 15.2% of population lives below the poverty line
10. South Carolina: 15.2% of population lives below the poverty line

[snip][end]

Again, calculated using the standard federal definition of the poverty rate/line, from the latest Census data, not using the Census' own special SPM measurement/index.

[gounion]

The GOP has been totally in control of Mississippi and Alabama for decades.

If we need to vote for Republicans, why aren't those states rich now?

[marindem01]

The Troll attacks California....no surprise.

Our state has the fifth largest economy is the world and as an independent country, would be leading France.

Our state has a budget surplus, so much so Governor Newsom plans to use part of surplus to send money directly to people own cars to cover the cost of expanding gas costs.

South Carolina is one our nations poorest states and receives a lot of federal assistance funds.

Fuck Off Troll.

Oh, Governor Newsom has no real political opposition ahead of the November General. RePugs shot their wad on trying and failing to recall him.

[bengal59]

The GOP has been totally in control of Mississippi and Alabama for decades.

If we need to vote for Republicans, why aren't those states rich now?

I would be interested in seeing what the economies of Michigan, Illinois, and Kansas are like now that democrats hold the governors' seats in those states. If you remember, both Illinois and Kansas went BANKRUPT under republicans and now seem to be getting better. And when federal aid is needed, which states are first to shove to the front of the line with their hands out?

[Number6]

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/cal ... se-gas-tax

California already out poorest state, already the worst state for just regular blue collar every day people to live.
California where regular folks can't afford to buy a house. California where gas prices and taxes are already highest in the nation.

California the state Democrats have run into the ground.
So what are the good liberals who run that state going to do to help people at a time when we are on the brink of recession. At a time when bidenflation has prices at record highs.
The democratic party is going to the thing it always does. Raise taxes hurting the people they claim to care so much about. Giving families even less spending money.
But don't despair I am sure they will increase welfare benefits. Because as we all know the more dependent the democratic party can make people on the Gov't the better chance they have at retaining power.

For a person whose only experience in California is driving in and out of the state you don't know much. Like any state, we have problems but we aren't anywhere near the failed state you continually troll about. I've probably live (resided) in more states than most members of this board and of all the states I still prefer California. California continues to provide more tax dollars to the federal government than it receives unlike South Carolina which requires federal welfare to provide even the most basic of services to it's citizens. California has a budget surplus of $68 billion which is over four times larger than South Carolina's entire state budget.

[Libertas]

Uh, no.

First off, that table is a three year average measure from 2017 to 2019. That aide,

Table 5 in that Census report lists California's official poverty rate, the # of people under official federal poverty threshold, as 11.4%. In that column, the highest states are LA and Miss, each with rates at 19%.

Under the Census' Statistical Poverty Measure (SPM), calculated uniquely by the Census department itself - BTW not used by other government agencies, and we can debate whether it is a better index - California's is 17.2%. The highest in that column. Second highest state (DC is not a state) is again LA, at 16.2%. You can read elsewhere in that document how the Census calculates SPM vs. the official poverty rate of DoL, HHS, etc.

Seems no matter how you measure, Louisiana is pretty poor.

BTW, saying 25% of Californians are living in poverty is pulling from your ass.

It is an outright lie, this troll and fascist supporter should not be here spreading lies. I know it would be boring without said troll, but still.

[marindem01]

So all of you "Lower Taxes" loving Cons, who exactly do you think is going to have to foot the bill in Florida for the over One Billion Dollars ($1,000,000,000.00) in taxes that Disney WILL NOT BE PAYING....hint NOT Death Sentence.

[Number6]

glenn is always trying to make California seem like a Third World failed state but as usual he fails. His antics reminds me of an old joke about a Russian teacher asking her student to compare Russia with the America. Instead of Russia, make it South Carolina and instead of America make it California.

Russian Teacher: "Class, who would like to tell the class about life in America?"

Little Ivan raises his hand and the teacher says "Yes, Ivan, please tell class."

Little Ivan: Life in America is very hard. People living in the streets, long lines to buy food, people living in crowded apartments, cold winters with no heat, people wear rags as clothes, polluted air and water, and very little money to buy things."

Russian Teacher: "Now, Ivan, please tell us about our country's Five Year Plan."

Little Ivan: "The leaders of our country have developed our Five Year Plan to catch up with the Americans!"

I think South Carolina is going to need a 20-year plan to catch up with California.

[bradman]

It appears that California already has a higher rate of structurally deficient bridges than Georgia.

https://artbabridgereport.org/state/map

The larger point aside.

i wonder who has more bridges?