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Glennfs wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 7:52 pm You are intentionally missing the point probably be6you know it is true.
At a time when we have so many kitchen table issues why are progressive Democrats wasting their time on something as meaningless as who received a CMH 100 years ago.

If nothing else it makes for a bad image problem and happens over and over.
Was the Jan 6th insurrection attempt a bad image problem for the GOP?
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gounion wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 8:01 pm Was the Jan 6th insurrection attempt a bad image problem for the GOP?
The January 6th riot I believe reflects more on trump and the 1000 trumpers than the gop .
Judging from Tuesdays election results it hasn't had any long term effects
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 8:04 pm The January 6th riot I believe reflects more on trump and the 1000 trumpers than the gop .
Judging from Tuesdays election results it hasn't had any long term effects
Here's another time when you got your marching orders. At first you agreed it was an insurrection, until the Trumper's talking points got to you. Just like Graham.

Let's see how much they got to you. Did Biden win the election? Yes or no?
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gounion wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 8:11 pm Here's another time when you got your marching orders. At first you agreed it was an insurrection, until the Trumper's talking points got to you. Just like Graham.

Let's see how much they got to you. Did Biden win the election? Yes or no?
Got to get to bed but yes Biden won the election and there was less bullshit in this election than in most.

I've said that all along
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 8:04 pm The January 6th riot I believe reflects more on trump and the 1000 trumpers than the gop .
False. It was a planned insurrection and an attempted coup. And the GOP has been working like mad to bury it, which is why they don't want investigations. Why they don't want to hand over their records. And why Trump doesn't want records released. You should be concerned, but you don't care. You have no patriotism to your country, just fealty to an authoritarian GOP.
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Drak wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 8:19 pm False. It was a planned insurrection and an attempted coup. And the GOP has been working like mad to bury it, which is why they don't want investigations. Why they don't want to hand over their records. And why Trump doesn't want records released. You should be concerned, but you don't care. You have no patriotism to your country, just fealty to an authoritarian GOP.
Calling it a riot is saying he is OK with insurrection unless democrats do it. The logic is simple.

If dems did it his brains would be splattered all over his kitchen ceiling from his head exploding.
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 8:19 pm Got to get to bed but yes Biden won the election and there was less bullshit in this election than in most.

I've said that all along
So both your Senators and your Congressman say it was stolen and that's okay with you. So much for not supporting Trump.
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Libertas wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 8:25 pm Calling it a riot is saying he is OK with insurrection unless democrats do it. The logic is simple.

If dems did it his brains would be splattered all over his kitchen ceiling from his head exploding.
Can you imagine if BLM did something like that? There would be bodies piled high.
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The MSM loves war. They go mad for war. Why? Because the MSM is a conservative owned mega corps that profits off it.

What we have is the GOP with their fear based distractions and lies, and the conservative owned MSM going hard after Joe Biden, attempting to drive him down to an even playing field as Trump and to steal another election. And it all started at hyper levels when Biden evacuated Afghanistan. Since then it's been non stop hammering on Joe Biden. The conservative owned MSM is very pissed.

Pretty hard to fight that sort of machine. It's easy to see what's going on.
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gounion wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 8:27 pm So both your Senators and your Congressman say it was stolen and that's okay with you. So much for not supporting Trump.
Notice how all the cases of actually election fraud were carried out by Republicans?
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Drak wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 8:30 pm Notice how all the cases of actually election fraud were carried out by Republicans?
I can tell you Republicans have NEVER believed in fairness. They have ALWAYS cheated when they could.
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gounion wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 8:33 pm I can tell you Republicans have NEVER believed in fairness. They have ALWAYS cheated when they could.
It makes sense.

We know for instance trump cheats on every tax return, on every loan application, lies literally every time he speaks, but trump sees no problem with this because he is a sociopath and has the mind of a child.

But his 75 million voters see no problem with it either. That is how they live their lives.
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gounion wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 6:13 pm Yeah, what is MUCH more important is people that threw rocks at Ruby Bridges to keep from going to school, making sure their grandkids NOT learn that they threw rocks at Ruby Bridges to keep her from going to school.

Hate sells, and that’s why your side is peddling.
Heck, it's not even the people who threw rocks at Ruby Bridges, though it's them, too. Ruby Bridges is the same age as the retirees at RFL, so yes it's definitely these white cons around here trying to cover up their racist dirt.

But it's also the ones who threw rocks at Kamala Harris, at me, and at any other not-white person who endured their sh#tty all-white schools and lived in their sh#tty suburban neighborhoods.

It's those karen parents, i.e. my peers, who are the ones at these school board meeting freakouts. They're the ones killing cops, and carrying Confederate flags and Q picket signs on their private jets to Jan. 6th; and it's their dirty children who do things like Charlottesville and Charleston.
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Drak wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 8:28 pm Can you imagine if BLM did something like that? There would be bodies piled high.
Amazing how these hypocrites won’t admit it.
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Libertas wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 10:30 pm Amazing how these hypocrites won’t admit it.
Ha well, they tried to say it was BLM.

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Glennfs wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 6:09 pmCould this be what is wrong with the democratic party
Thanks to people like you your party is now headed by a seditious white nationalist.

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Drak wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 8:28 pm The MSM loves war. They go mad for war. Why? Because the MSM is a conservative owned mega corps that profits off it.

What we have is the GOP with their fear based distractions and lies, and the conservative owned MSM going hard after Joe Biden, attempting to drive him down to an even playing field as Trump and to steal another election. And it all started at hyper levels when Biden evacuated Afghanistan. Since then it's been non stop hammering on Joe Biden. The conservative owned MSM is very pissed.

Pretty hard to fight that sort of machine. It's easy to see what's going on.
Yeah, it's pretty transparent. Also though the upper class/ white supremacist/ corporate greed/ whatever you call it at your house disinfo machine has been busy at the local level too, scaring the target audience about CRT being a liberal disinfo plot to brainwash white kids, when actually it's an esoteric academic view mostly discussed in grad schools, and then largely as a legal interpretation.

But yeah, the Afghanistan coverage was definitely a throwback to the Iraq war era military-industrial-media-complex Addicted To War model of TV reportage. CNN, especially, plays that one like a cheap fiddle.
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ZoWie wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:06 pmAlso though the upper class/ white supremacist/ corporate greed/ whatever you call it at your house disinfo machine has been busy at the local level too, scaring the target audience about CRT being a liberal disinfo plot to brainwash white kids, ...

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I've never seen the media interview a black parent about how race is being taught to their children.

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Glennfs wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 7:47 pm The Biden administration's policies are a contributing factor
But if course you deny that
No Glenn, the White House has zip to do with the cost of gas. Gas was up in the Traitor as well and you were silent over it. Not one word from you when the Traitor was in the White House and the price of Gas was up.

Mr. Biden has created more jobs than the Traitor ever lost in his one term.

CRT IS NOT TAUGHT IN HIGH SCHOOL. IT IS A GRADUATE LEVEL/LAW SCHOOL COURSE. STOP LYING.

Over 70% of Adults in this country has received at least COVID Vaccination. The Traitor allowed over 400,0000,000 Innocent Men, Women and Children to die from COVID because he did absolutely nothing.

Stop push Right Wing Lies Glenn. It won't work.
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marindem01 wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:54 pmOver 70% of Adults in this country has received at least COVID Vaccination. The Traitor allowed over 400,0000,000 Innocent Men, Women and Children to die from COVID because he did absolutely nothing.
That's what these conservative whites want.

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Glennfs wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 6:17 pmParents shouldn't have a say in what their children are taught.
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well I was six when a white boy handed me a note saying “I don’t like Coreans” so maybe start at the same time as the spelling lessons

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If some racist right-wingers are home using the n-word and telling their children how blacks are to be hated, they sure as hell don’t want some schoolteacher telling their kids differently!
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gounion wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 11:56 am If some racist right-wingers are home using the n-word and telling their children how blacks are to be hated, they sure as hell don’t want some schoolteacher telling their kids differently!
They really do believe they have an innate right to kick around anyone they please. That is "freedom" and "liberty," to them.

Now they cry victim and hatred of so-called whites when we talk about how they've kicked around everyone else for the past 350 years. :problem:
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As Racism is a learned behavior, the sooner a child learns Racism is wrong the better. Slavery was a fact of life in the Country for over a Century, teaching a child Slavery is wrong is NOT CRT, it is teaching U.S. History the way it is.

Teaching the Genocide of Native Americans is NOT CRT, it is teach U.S. History the way it is.

Teaching that Chinese brought to this country to build the U.S. Railroads and were treated as Slaves and NOT allowed to bring family with them is NOT CRT, it is teaching U.S. History the way it is.

Denying African-Americans their Right To Vote is NOT CRT, it teaching U.S. History the way it is.

Racism is learned behavior, teaching racism is NOT CRT, it is a sad ass, sorry ass, fucking fact of life in the U.S. and we have to teach that racism is wrong.
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