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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 12:50 pm 
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Their free accounts were getting worse by the day, now they have some BS thing about enabling 3rd party hosting that shows up instead of all my images.

1. I'm sure it costs money. I'm over budget on Internet extortionists for now.

2. They claimed privacy. I don't see how proclaiming to the world that you have an account there is privacy, even though it doesn't really compromise anything that isn't in the URLs already. I nuked my account there, but even that doesn't happen for 48 hours. Yeah, real secure.

3. I edited a lot of posts today, but I'll never get to all of them. So, when you see either my corporate BS thing and/or their corporate BS thing, you will know why.

4. I'm going to miss the Traitor's Gate. I shot that myself in London and I own it. Anyone know another free, SECURE, image host?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:38 pm 
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Yep. Same experience with Photobucket here. I've abandoned their service and moved to Imgur.

Simple. Quick. Easy. Reliable. Free.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 2:30 pm 
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Yes, I moved to imgur years ago.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:34 pm 
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I finally cracked and decided to see how much 3rd-party hosting costs on Photobucket.

$400 a year, that's how much. (Oh, OK, $399.99.)

Hurry up and nuke my account, assholes.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:43 am 
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I don't understand any of this 3rd party stuff. I have an account. Are they going to charge me $400 a year instead of the 30 I pay now?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 5:07 pm 
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Third party hosting means that the images stored on one site can be seen on other sites by embedding the URL. It's how all the images on this board except for avatars over on the left are displayed. It's a form of hotlinking, so of course the host has full control over your images and can replace them with, say, pornography and get you into trouble. Therefore you want to trust your host. In the current political context, you also want to look out for security holes that might get you doxxed or cyber-bullied when people on the other side poke around your stored data and learn your true identity.

Photobucket offered free hosting and OK anonymity for 14 years, and then suddenly didn't any more. All my files have multiple backups, and also I can live with a few missing images on this board. I simply deleted my account.

However, there are thousands of tutorials, auction and for-sale pictures, people bragging about their cars, instruction manuals, etc that now suddenly don't work unless the author coughs up $400 a year. There are in fact billions of these kind of images, and so if you haven't seen Photobucket's nag image yet, just keep using the net and you will soon enough.

I know I'm the lunatic fringe on this issue, but I can't help thinking this is one more step in the inevitable evolution of the Internet into a more interactive (and intrusive) form of commercial pay broadcasting that will transfer thousands of dollars a year from all of us to the same huge conglomerates that fucked everything else up.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:35 pm 
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I know I'm the lunatic fringe on this issue, but I can't help thinking this is one more step in the inevitable evolution of the Internet into a more interactive (and intrusive) form of commercial pay broadcasting that will transfer thousands of dollars a year from all of us to the same huge conglomerates that fucked everything else up.

why of course they must find a way for us to pay them to live. the net has cut down on the
amount and severity of commercial ads, as seen on old remote units like tvs.

i think the young wont know the diff, but older people whove survived the blooms and busts
of this fucked economic system..dont want to talk to some unit on the table and would prefer to
go ahead and read while you can.
(apparently....blindness is on the increase and male fertility has dropped 59% since the 70's..)

it may have been better swinging thru the trees.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:36 pm 
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Third party hosting means that the images stored on one site can be seen on other sites by embedding the URL. It's how all the images on this board except for avatars over on the left are displayed. It's a form of hotlinking, so of course the host has full control over your images and can replace them with, say, pornography and get you into trouble. Therefore you want to trust your host. In the current political context, you also want to look out for security holes that might get you doxxed or cyber-bullied when people on the other side poke around your stored data and learn your true identity.

Photobucket offered free hosting and OK anonymity for 14 years, and then suddenly didn't any more. All my files have multiple backups, and also I can live with a few missing images on this board. I simply deleted my account.

However, there are thousands of tutorials, auction and for-sale pictures, people bragging about their cars, instruction manuals, etc that now suddenly don't work unless the author coughs up $400 a year. There are in fact billions of these kind of images, and so if you haven't seen Photobucket's nag image yet, just keep using the net and you will soon enough.

I know I'm the lunatic fringe on this issue, but I can't help thinking this is one more step in the inevitable evolution of the Internet into a more interactive (and intrusive) form of commercial pay broadcasting that will transfer thousands of dollars a year from all of us to the same huge conglomerates that fucked everything else up.

I agree that telecom giants want to eliminate net neutrality and in some ways they are doing that already.

But when you mention a nag image, what is that exactly? I've trusted Photobucket in the past but are you saying they are going to start extorting money from their paying customers? They've been taking the money out automatically every year but I don't want to see a $370 spike in my yearly payment!

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:55 pm 
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Zowie, I just read the other thread where you spoke of this and what happened to your images. Seems it has happened to thousands of customers. At that asking price, they are committing suicide!

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:57 pm 
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My dumbass signature is still active. Be interesting to see how long it stays.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:39 pm 
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Before June, paying for Photobucket got you more space and no ads. Now they have added another tier of paid accounts for those who want 3rd-party hosting, in other words practically every user. This would be merely annoying were it, say, $40 a year ($39.99 in Internet ripoff parlance). I still might not pay it, since I am already paying ransom on several tools I make my meager living with. It would be a tougher decision than $400 a year (for you, $399.99). That second one is a GFY.

I think they have some automated means of detecting 3rd-party hosting, since otherwise their geeks would be doing little else. They got to me kind of late, and maybe they don't have your number yet. I'll be interested in whether they get to you at all.

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Before June, paying for Photobucket got you more space and no ads. Now they have added another tier of paid accounts for those who want 3rd-party hosting, in other words practically every user. This would be merely annoying were it, say, $40 a year ($39.99 in Internet ripoff parlance). I still might not pay it, since I am already paying ransom on several tools I make my meager living with. It would be a tougher decision than $400 a year (for you, $399.99). That second one is a GFY.

I think they have some automated means of detecting 3rd-party hosting, since otherwise their geeks would be doing little else. They got to me kind of late, and maybe they don't have your number yet. I'll be interested in whether they get to you at all.


I know exactly what you mean by this. And that goes also for hosting, paid/premium plugins, so-called "pro" subscriptions where you only need one feature instead of the entire "pro" bundle the rest of which you never use, etc. This is why co's like the SAAS model.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:02 pm 
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They can't even cancel my account right. Wonder how long before their code gets through all the other millions who have bailed, and gets to me. They're already well past the promised 48 hours.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:47 am 
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Got this in my email this morning:

Congratulations! You're part of Photobucket's Elite Beta Group! You have been hand selected out of millions of users to be an essential part of our team of influencers. Best part so far? We have created a monthly option for our Plus 500 Plan. And YOU get the first crack at it. It's only available from the link below, so click below to get started!

A monthly payment? I don't think so. Some months I don't even use it. But I realized that I havent' updated my credit card on their site so they can't automatically deduct any money from me now.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:54 am 
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A monthly payment? I don't think so. Some months I don't even use it. But I realized that I havent' updated my credit card on their site so they can't automatically deduct any money from me now.


Some months you don't even use it?


LOL.


I haven't looked at my photobucket account for at least two years, if not three or four.


Wonder if that account even still exists? Maybe I should go check it out. Or not.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:58 pm 
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OMG, now they're even talking corporatese to users. I love it. A special offer where you, as a member of the select elite, get to pay the same rate everyone else does. The monthly option is on the rate sheet they show everybody. And, such a deal. You get to pay more over 12 months than the yearly rate.

Someone's taking Art of the Deal lessons.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 4:29 pm 
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I'll come up with this analogy on Photobucket it's kinda like music & their pay issues when a musical artist comes up with a song instead of the money going to them most of it goes through the record label & they get a small percentage of it hopefully if the dems regain congress they'll address this issue & fix this entire mess.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:34 pm 
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The artist gets more if they retain their publishing. Many times they give it up just to get signed, then someone else owns their tunes. The system still has elements of the one that started in the time of Gilbert & Sullivan, in which the primary means of getting compositions out to the public was sheet music.

I never looked at Photobucket's contract regarding rights. Presumably I retain them, but it never mattered because most of the stuff I put there didn't belong to me anyway. I have other more substantial image sites for that, and there I have read the fine print. That's the problem: $400/yr to host little throwaway graphics for BBS posts seems almost as stupid as 1.6 billion to start construction on that worthless wall.

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