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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:04 pm 
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This is a strange one. It starts with an entry on the AdGuard blog, where they claim that 5 of the ad blockers on the Google Chrome download site contain malware that connects your computer to a botnet that does stuff you'd probably not want done to your browser. In other words, they're spoofs or cracks of legitimate ad blockers, but they do the absolute minumum while at the same time running newly added malware.

Ordinarily, I'd just quote the blog entry here. Unfortunately, these are not happy times, and it is necessary to note that AdGuard is Russian. Like Kaspersky. Its HQ is in Nicosia, but its web forums are in Russian, and it has a bunch of guys with Russian names working for it. The notification of upgrades to the blog is headed by a photo of a Russian rocket lifting off.

Yes, I want a Russian ad blocker about as much as I want a Russian anti-virus.

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The story has some credibility, though. Google immediately took the 5 extensions off its site. They are:

AdRemover for Google Chrome (10M+ users)
uBlock Plus (8M+ users)
Adblock Pro (2M+ users)
HD for YouTube™ (400K+ users)
Webutation (30K+ users)

If you have any of these, zap 'em now.

The names do look like they're trying to imitate those of software you've heard of. AdBlock Plus is the heavy hitter here, so we see uBlock Plus and Adblock Pro. As the story goes, the botnets were also used to generate fake reviews and push the malware to the top.

At a minimum, it's another security black eye for Chrome, regardless of what's going on.

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I have no trouble believing this, I think anti-virus, and anti malware software is something to never allow in a computer. When I get a new machine I turn off the Internet connection and I strip out the free trial software deleting it completely, then I search the registry and remove all of the keys. Then I delete the Microsoft equivalents as well.

Then and only then do I turn on the internet connection and begin using my new machine. After 20 years off doing it this way I can say I have had less problems than anyone I know.

Everyone else I know has had trouble. I've had almost none.

Anti-virus people are gangsters doing ther protection racket thing. Don't ever let them know where you live. :|

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:14 pm 
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i had two update Pages popup saying it was a firefox update. it wasnt.

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That's a new one on me.

Firefox should auto-update, unless you turn it off. You start the browser and it says, "Firefox is updating and will start shortly," or words to that effect. Any clickable box is a spoof.

Ad blockers aren't about getting rid of ads, though that is something of a bonus, and speeds up loads like you wouldn't believe. They're about preventing all the abusive little tricks advertisers can't resist pulling, like fake system windows saying "Click here before your computer explodes." Not to mention all manner of scripts that the ads bring in. Or third-party cookies that will last longer than you do.

I can handle advertising on the Internet. That was inevitable, given this culture. The problem is how they seem to think you've opted into giving the advertisers unlimited access to your personal life.

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That's a new one on me.

Firefox should auto-update, unless you turn it off. You start the browser and it says, "Firefox is updating and will start shortly," or words to that effect. Any clickable box is a spoof.

Ad blockers aren't about getting rid of ads, though that is something of a bonus, and speeds up loads like you wouldn't believe. They're about preventing all the abusive little tricks advertisers can't resist pulling, like fake system windows saying "Click here before your computer explodes." Not to mention all manner of scripts that the ads bring in. Or third-party cookies that will last longer than you do.

I can handle advertising on the Internet. That was inevitable, given this culture. The problem is how they seem to think you've opted into giving the advertisers unlimited access to your personal life.


Yes and ppl think making emotional scapegoats out of a couple name-recognition companies out of the hundreds that do this is going to solve the problem. :problem:

The problem is targeted, machine-learned, botted up, delivered ads. The fix for it is easy: make it illegal.

But then we will have to watch our free and freemium services we thought were so "free" become like the newspapers: paid, paid, paid.

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craigslist now demands a phone number so they can text you a 'code' you type for your ad.
they wont accept mos to mos prepaid phones. at all.

you can only sell on craigs now if youve got an expensive phone or a landline.

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craigslist now demands a phone number so they can text you a 'code' you type for your ad.
they wont accept mos to mos prepaid phones. at all.

you can only sell on craigs now if youve got an expensive phone or a landline.


Also, net neutrality rescinsion went into effect yesterday. So we'll see that affects all of this.

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craigslist now demands a phone number so they can text you a 'code' you type for your ad.
they wont accept mos to mos prepaid phones. at all.

you can only sell on craigs now if youve got an expensive phone or a landline.


Sounds like a good policy. A phone is necessary to transact a sale. A throw away phone could be used for that but one of the issues with selling is insuring that the seller be able to be contacted in the event a problem with the idem sold comes up. A throw away phone allows a seller to more easily disappear once a deal has been transacted.


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Sounds like a good policy. A phone is necessary to transact a sale. A throw away phone could be used for that but one of the issues with selling is insuring that the seller be able to be contacted in the event a problem with the idem sold comes up. A throw away phone allows a seller to more easily disappear once a deal has been transacted.

its used stuff. no guarantees with used stuff.
craigs is doing this over ads that offer complaints about business.

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its used stuff. no guarantees with used stuff.
craigs is doing this over ads that offer complaints about business.


I'm talking about stolen stuff. If they don't require a traceable phone number or some other means of identifying a seller their ads will be used by burglars fencing what they've stolen.

They probably will be used that way anyway, thieves often are not terribly bright, but if Craigslist can shown that they have done due diligence to prevent it, it reduces their liability.


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The problem is targeted, machine-learned, botted up, delivered ads. The fix for it is easy: make it illegal.

But then we will have to watch our free and freemium services we thought were so "free" become like the newspapers: paid, paid, paid.


Tis a consummation devoutly to be wished... and probably never achieved.

I would imagine that at some point most of the net will go paid anyway. That's the normal evolution of things in this economic system. Free TV with commercials became pay TV with commercials. Etc..

$9.95 a month here and $29.95 a month there, and suddenly people will notice (around tax time anyway) that they just paid $450 a month for telecom.

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Tis a consummation devoutly to be wished... and probably never achieved.

I would imagine that at some point most of the net will go paid anyway. That's the normal evolution of things in this economic system. Free TV with commercials became pay TV with commercials. Etc..

$9.95 a month here and $29.95 a month there, and suddenly people will notice (around tax time anyway) that they just paid $450 a month for telecom.


Yeah we've talked about this before, how this affects devs who are already in that boat. $49 for Creative Cloud, $9/ea. here for the pro version for this plugin, $15 for that, $20 for hosting, $89/yr for this license, $249/year for that, it really adds up.

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I'm pwned by Adobe. I don't like it. Unfortunately, this is the future. I can see this form of death by a thousand $19.95s becoming one of the biggest problems for people.

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Adobe is another word for mud.


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I'm pwned by Adobe. I don't like it. Unfortunately, this is the future. I can see this form of death by a thousand $19.95s becoming one of the biggest problems for people.


I'll say.

Unless you land a larger contract and can plunk down some cash for some lifetime dev licenses or some other kind of 12-month thing (and hope to high heaven you are in the spot to renew this time next year - in the gig economy it's likely you will not be), it's juggling from month to month what you can and can't swing. Offline hand-to-mouth is one thing, when what you do is dependent on these f'ed up arrangements, it's no crystal stair, either.

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This is a strange one. It starts with an entry on the AdGuard blog, where they claim that 5 of the ad blockers on the Google Chrome download site contain malware that connects your computer to a botnet that does stuff you'd probably not want done to your browser. In other words, they're spoofs or cracks of legitimate ad blockers, but they do the absolute minumum while at the same time running newly added malware.

Ordinarily, I'd just quote the blog entry here. Unfortunately, these are not happy times, and it is necessary to note that AdGuard is Russian. Like Kaspersky. Its HQ is in Nicosia, but its web forums are in Russian, and it has a bunch of guys with Russian names working for it. The notification of upgrades to the blog is headed by a photo of a Russian rocket lifting off.

Yes, I want a Russian ad blocker about as much as I want a Russian anti-virus.

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AdRemover for Google Chrome (10M+ users)
uBlock Plus (8M+ users)
Adblock Pro (2M+ users)
HD for YouTube™ (400K+ users)
Webutation (30K+ users)

If you have any of these, zap 'em now.

The names do look like they're trying to imitate those of software you've heard of. AdBlock Plus is the heavy hitter here, so we see uBlock Plus and Adblock Pro. As the story goes, the botnets were also used to generate fake reviews and push the malware to the top.

At a minimum, it's another security black eye for Chrome, regardless of what's going on.



So, AdBlock Plus, the heavy hitter, is legit...Right?

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So, AdBlock Plus, the heavy hitter, is legit...Right?


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Yes


Thanks, Carmen.

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I checked AdBlock Plus when this thing first came out. It's fine.

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That's the best one no more seeing ads on articles or videos refreshing.


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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2018 6:54 pm 
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I noticed that the ad blockers on the list aren't the actual popular ad blockers, but ones with similar names to the popular ones. For example uBlock Plus instead of uBlock Origin. Adblock Plus instead of Adblock Pro or just plain ol' Adblock.

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Adblock Plus is the successor to the original Adblock after work on it stopped. The Adblock currently in use is yet another extension, and like Adblock Plus, it participates in a whitelisting scheme where large advertisers pay to keep "acceptable ads" whitelisted.

Adblock Pro is malware.

https://productforums.google.com/forum/ ... 835AZ0jvNk
http://www.newsweek.com/google-chrome-f ... you-892929

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That's a new one on me.

Firefox should auto-update, unless you turn it off. You start the browser and it says, "Firefox is updating and will start shortly," or words to that effect. Any clickable box is a spoof.

Ad blockers aren't about getting rid of ads, though that is something of a bonus, and speeds up loads like you wouldn't believe. They're about preventing all the abusive little tricks advertisers can't resist pulling, like fake system windows saying "Click here before your computer explodes." Not to mention all manner of scripts that the ads bring in. Or third-party cookies that will last longer than you do.

I can handle advertising on the Internet. That was inevitable, given this culture. The problem is how they seem to think you've opted into giving the advertisers unlimited access to your personal life.

FF should auto update during the nite...lately, FF has hijacked my search engine page...it gives me the
minimum DDG page but Only with a FF logo in upper left. IT SHOULD NOT DO THAT.
ive not found a way to stop it so i open a number of DDG search pages and fuck FF.

i sorta recall a update coming during a start...im prolly going to yank FF out and have to reload it.
i did see--for some reason after a FF upload i had to dwld Adblock again---and i saw the adblockPRO
one, figured it meant money and it didnt sound like ABPlus anyway.
then i checked my other lappie and dbl saw it was Plus.

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so far it seems that good ole FF has hijacked DDG search.
iow...FF demands to know where you are going on the net no matter DDG.

thx ff.

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so far it seems that good ole FF has hijacked DDG search.
iow...FF demands to know where you are going on the net no matter DDG.

thx ff.


What is DDG?

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