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Another ridiculous white con, this time an AEI propagandist, sez CRT is totalitarian, Nazi, Marxist, and likewise scapegoats whites as oppressors. :problem:

He actually thinks the writings of Immanuel Kant, one of the nastiest European racists to put a pen to paper, is the root of CRT, or has anything whatsoever to do with CRT. :lol: Shame on the WP for printing this absurd propaganda.
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Critical race theory is a subset of critical theory that helped spawn totalitarian ideologies in the 20th century. For Marxists, the bourgeoisie were the oppressors. For the Nazis, the Jews were the oppressors. Today, CRT teaches Whites are the oppressors.

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carmenjonze wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 12:13 am I'm sure the blinkered, gullible believers in cancel culture will be writing strong letters of protest at this canceling of this school superintendent.

Newberg school board fires superintendent as tensions heighten over ban on political symbols - Oregon Live
I read that, then I read the Wikipedia page about the town. After reading the Wikipedia page something coalesced into a though, that damned town is a brick making town.

I didn't see that mentioned in the Wikipedia page, but something was causing me to think there are bricks there, so googled and sure enough it was a brick making town. That explains everything:
During the early part of the 1900s, Newberg was the brick-making capital of Oregon. Many of the buildings you’ll see on this tour were made from local bricks. Willamina brick, which is white or blonde in color, was especially popular.

Be on the lookout for buildings listed on the National Register of Historic Places. Also notice that downtown Newberg retains most of its infrastructure from before 1940. In essence, this tour shows how Newberg looked during the early half of the 20th century, a city center frozen in time. The visitor is encouraged to pause and reflect about how things used to be in small town America.
https://newbergdowntown.org/attractions ... king-tour/

God help them, that sounds like a conservative town with conservative warts, conservative burns, and conservative blisters. They like it rough.

:|

The reason brick making is important is in my life experience I have found that brick making is simply something liberal do not do. Like 100% conservatives, and 0% liberals. Glazers are the next in the scale of the most conservative workers of the world, but they don't hold a candle to brick makers.

Don't ever move to a brick making place, unless you actually like making bricks.
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sam lefthand wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:19 am I read that, then I read the Wikipedia page about the town. After reading the Wikipedia page something coalesced into a though, that damned town is a brick making town.

I didn't see that mentioned in the Wikipedia page, but something was causing me to think there are bricks there, so googled and sure enough it was a brick making town. That explains everything:



https://newbergdowntown.org/attractions ... king-tour/

That sounds like a conservative town with conservative warts, conservative burns, and conservative blisters. They like it rough.

:|

The reason brick making is important is in my life experience I have found that brick making is simply something liberal do not do. Like 100% conservatives, and 0% liberals. Glazers are the next in the scale of the most conservative workers of the world, but they don't hold a candle to brick makers.

Don't ever move to a brick making place, unless you actually like making bricks.
I'm sorry, Sam, but that's just plain wrong.

Whenever the County Democracts do public events, we always get this "I thought I was the only one" thing from people. No, there's a LOT of liberals around here. But the conservatives want to pretend to shut liberals up.

Nowhere is 100% conservative.
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sam lefthand wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:19 amDon't ever move to a brick making place, unless you actually like making bricks.
Tell that to the people of North Tulsa.

Oh wait..not much is left anymore since Tulsa conservative whites torched it in 1921.
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gounion wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:24 am I'm sorry, Sam, but that's just plain wrong.

Whenever the County Democracts do public events, we always get this "I thought I was the only one" thing from people. No, there's a LOT of liberals around here. But the conservatives want to pretend to shut liberals up.

Nowhere is 100% conservative.
I don’t advise he go to Norman, where University of Oklahoma is. No liberals at that school, I’m sure.
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sam lefthand wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:19 am I read that, …
Try re-reading. Conservatives as freaked out about so-called cancel culture as you are, just canceled the superintendent of schools.
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Wow Carmen, take a breath of that life giving air. Three posts in a row. What you said wasn't very coherent. They both begin with an O but Oregon and Oklahoma are different places.

:?

Think "wet place" and then think "dry place."
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sam lefthand wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:55 amWhat you said wasn't very coherent.
Pretending that perfectly logical statements are incomprehensible is a common mark of misoginoir. It’s a very old form of classic misogynist gaslighting.
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carmenjonze wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 9:33 am He actually thinks the writings of Immanuel Kant, one of the nastiest European racists to put a pen to paper, is the root of CRT, or has anything whatsoever to do with CRT. :lol: Shame on the WP for printing this absurd propaganda.
Some of the Frankfurt School authors read and discuss Kant, but that is a bit of a stretch.

I would argue Kant, in writing about the categorical imperative, was the first one to really demonstrate why the Golden Rule, which so many cultures and religious traditions articulate, makes rational and logical sense for a functioning society.
Critical race theory is a subset of critical theory that helped spawn totalitarian ideologies in the 20th century. For Marxists, the bourgeoisie were the oppressors. For the Nazis, the Jews were the oppressors. Today, CRT teaches Whites are the oppressors.
Not a subset, but a derivation.

Once again, another idiot who doesn't know that most of the Jewish members of the Frankfurt School who helped create critical theory were attempting to explain the rise of fascism and Nazism, which for obvious reasons they opposed.

Also, BTW, the Nazis taught that the so-called Jewish or Semitic "race" of Jewish people were genetically inferior to the "Aryan" race of Germany. They were untermenschen, subordinates, the opposite of "oppressors" - though they did claim because of their inherent inferiority they used the manipulation of things like banking and pornography to poison and weaken the Aryan race to gain an upper hand. (Same thing you hear QAnon doing today.)

As usual with so much of this crap, he's flipped it on its head.
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ProfX wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 11:58 am Some of the Frankfurt School authors read and discuss Kant, but that is a bit of a stretch.

I would argue Kant, in writing about the categorical imperative, was the first one to really demonstrate why the Golden Rule, which so many cultures and religious traditions articulate, makes rational and logical sense for a functioning society.



Not a subset, but a derivation.

Once again, another idiot who doesn't know that most of the Jewish members of the Frankfurt School who helped create critical theory were attempting to explain the rise of fascism and Nazism, which for obvious reasons they opposed.

Also, BTW, the Nazis taught that the so-called Jewish or Semitic "race" of Jewish people were genetically inferior to the "Aryan" race of Germany. They were untermenschen, subordinates, the opposite of "oppressors" - though they did claim because of their inherent inferiority they used the manipulation of things like banking and pornography to poison and weaken the Aryan race to gain an upper hand. (Same thing you hear QAnon doing today.)

As usual with so much of this crap, he's flipped it on its head.
The entire column is something to behold.

Opinion: The danger of critical race theory

What is actually dangerous is the Whole Foods Post, with their new "Democracy dies in darkness" slogan, apparently doesn't have factcheckers on the Opinion desk.
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Look at this hot garbage.
Critical race theory, Guelzo says, is a subset of critical theory that began with Immanuel Kant in the 1790s. It was a response to — and rejection of — the principles of the Enlightenment and the Age of Reason on which the American republic was founded. Kant believed that “reason was inadequate to give shape to our lives” and so he set about “developing a theory of being critical of reason,” Guelzo says.
Helloooo, Western Philosophy 101.

Lol Kant did not develop a theory of being critical of reason. Kant was literally a proponent of reason and one of the founders of the Enlightenment.

I mean...brah. First paragraph.

What is Enlightenment
Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment.
Critical theory has led to the rise of ideologies that have killed millions. “We have paid severe prices at those moments when people have lost faith in reason and decided to defect to something else,” Guelzo says. “Those are the moments when genocide rears its hideous head.”
There are actually Marxist critiques of critical race theory. There are also left and liberal critiques of critical race theory, and I've got a few of my own. But like the rest of these well-poisoning, white-conservative paranoiacs, Marc Thiessen, a torture advocate, thinks it's CRT that's the Marxism. :problem:

CRT is Maoism
Hitler seducing Marx
upends the social order by scapegoating Jews
must be balanaced with Holocaust denial texts
but also Hitler cracked down on critical theory
is the KKK
is condemned by the KKK
is gonna lead to death camps for white people...

All of the above white-supremacist rightwingery is only possible due to these opportunists taking advantage of people's ignorance. Much of that ignorance is quite willful, as on display in rainwater's recent post in this thread. She is by no means alone in staying this ignorant for this long on this subject, when there are plenty of resources available on it. The rightwing is exploiting lucrative opportunities for both minority scapegoating, and attacking public education.
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carmenjonze wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 12:56 pm Lol Kant did not develop a theory of being critical of reason. Kant was literally a proponent of reason and one of the founders of the Enlightenment.

I mean...brah. First paragraph.
Somebody saw the title of Critique of Pure Reason but didn't bother to read any of it ... :lol:

Kant is one of the first philosophers to argue that ethics and morality have a rational foundation ... i.e. you don't need fear of a cosmic being or sentimentality to consider why you should behave morally toward other people ... you just need to rationally think about what kind of norms are necessary for a functioning society.

Yeah, saying one of the key figures of the Enlightenment was anti-reason is kinda silly.

Aside 102: it is true some of the Frankfurt School wrote critiques of the Enlightenment, but essentially it's to reveal that it didn't live up to its promises as an emancipatory project.
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ProfX wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 2:07 pm Somebody saw the title of Critique of Pure Reason but didn't bother to read any of it ... :lol:

Kant is one of the first philosophers to argue that ethics and morality have a rational foundation ... i.e. you don't need fear of a cosmic being or sentimentality to consider why you should behave morally toward other people ... you just need to rationally think about what kind of norms are necessary for a functioning society.

Yeah, saying one of the key figures of the Enlightenment was anti-reason is kinda silly.

Aside 102: it is true some of the Frankfurt School wrote critiques of the Enlightenment, but essentially it's to reveal that it didn't live up to its promises as an emancipatory project.
That stupid op-ed piece is bad enough. Check out the totally unhinged AEI podcast interview that this crud came from.

WTH is critical race theory? How a philosophy that inspired Marxism, Nazism, and Jim Crow is making its way into our schools, and what we can do - June 23, 2021

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Karen called the cops on a book.

School Board member Jill Woolbright turns to Sheriff's Office over 'obscene' book at schools - Palm Coast Observer
Woolbright said she filed the criminal report after Flagler Schools superintendent and board attorney did not inform other board members of her complaint.
I need to speak to the manager!

Somebody needs to cancel this book immediately, or else!
Woolbright said she recently became aware that four copies of the book, “All Boys Aren’t Blue,” by George M. Johnson, were available in the media centers of the three schools — two copies at Flagler Palm Coast High School, one at Matanzas High School and one at Buddy Taylor Middle School.

(Editor's Note: Since the publication of this story, a source familiar with the school has since told the Observer that the copy of the book that was at Buddy Taylor was removed about two weeks ago; no student had ever checked out the book.)

Woolbright said the book contains sexually graphic material.

“My concern is for the children of Flagler County. This book needs to be investigated as a crime in our media center. This is pretty heavy stuff, violating our own policies. That’s why I felt the need to file the report, so I know it will be investigated.”

According to the deputy’s report, which Woolbright filed on Tuesday, Nov. 9, “Two of the books have been pulled from the shelves and another unknown person provided Jill one of the books. One book is still currently checked out by another person.”

The book, which was published in April 2020, is a series of personal essays by Johnson, a journalist and LGBTQ activist, about growing up Black and gay.
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Black kids learn about race early. So should their white peers.
“How young is too young to teach kids about race?” That was, coincidentally enough, the text of an ill-fated tweet CBS News posted two days before Izzy died. It was intended to promote a documentary on the raging controversy about how and if schools should teach America’s sordid racial history. Republicans, railing against so-called “critical race theory,” have been frantically passing laws to effectively ban any such lessons.

But there was a bias implicit in the framing of the CBS question, and if it was invisible to the network, it was jarring to people of color, many of whom responded sharply.

The Rev. Dr. Bernice King, daughter of the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., noted that she was 5 “when racism and white supremacy left me fatherless.” Actor George Takei, who originated the role of Mr. Sulu on “Star Trek,” recalled that he was 5 when he was sent to an internment camp with 120,000 other Japanese Americans. “I learned about race early,” he said.

Izzy did, too.

So what CBS was really asking was this: How young is too young to teach white kids about race? Given that it is so often a story of white people treating other people inhumanely — enslaving the Africans, killing the indigenous, deporting the Mexicans, imprisoning the Japanese — how can we do it justice without making white children feel, well ... bad? Where America’s racial history is concerned, we are asked — and increasingly, required by law — to treat white children as egg cartons treat eggs. This, despite the fact that there is no real evidence those kids want or need to be handled as if fragile.......
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New anti-CRT bill introduced in North Dakota.

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carmenjonze wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:44 pm Jeffrey Sachs
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New anti-CRT bill introduced in North Dakota.

https://legis.nd.gov/files/committees/6 ... _01000.pdf

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That looks like a show boat law to me.

It forbids that which was not happening anyway. Would not have happened in the foreseeable future. That law will do nothing to further their interests. But It might help us further our interests.

:|

Enacting that law will neuter the CRT campaign issue insofar as it being a campaign issue for the state Republicans to use against their state Democrats for the midterm election in 2022.

Not that it will change the outcomes in that state as Republican as they are. But they'll be howling about some other issue in 2022, not that issue because if they enact a Prohibition now they've solved the "problem" for themselves, what would they have to fear once they've done that.

A Prohibition will tend to generate interest in that which other wise probably would have been ignored by home folks children had they left it alone. After all the Internet is there for children to examine. The Internet has what their school text books and school libraries didn't have anyway. Now those kids will be challenged to look it up to see what their elders are forbidding them to see.

Once they look it up they will be exposed to it, they'll be teaching themselves the 1619 Project and CRT.

:D

The point I'm making Carmen is that this action will further your interests and mine in the 1619 Project and CRT, not further their interests in rubbing them out.

It will play into our hands, not theirs. Sometimes it's better to allow sleeping dogs to lie. That's a simple wisdom they have overlooked.
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sam lefthand wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 9:33 pm But It might help us further our interests.
"Us" doesn't exist.
The point I'm making Carmen is that this action will further your interests and mine in the 1619 Project and CRT, not further their interests in rubbing them out.
:lol: you don't have the foggiest notiong what my interests in 1619 and CRT are.
It will play into our hands ...
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carmenjonze wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:31 pm "Us" doesn't exist.



:lol: you don't have the foggiest notiong what my interests in 1619 and CRT are.



"Our hands" do not exist. There is no "we" with people who carry water for confederates.
I'm sure glad that you concur with me on all the major important points of my thesis.

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I expected some criticism on the minor points, after all that's just par for the course, the essence of you being you on an average day.
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sam lefthand wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:51 pm

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"woke" is sounding very much like the hard -ER nowadays.

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Parents protesting 'critical race theory' identify another target: Mental health programs - NBC News
Groups this year have voiced opposition to suicide prevention programs, mental health coordinators and social emotional learning, claiming they are being used to indoctrinate students.

“At Carroll ISD, you are actually advertising suicide,” Eddins said, arguing that many parents in the affluent suburban school system have hired tutors because the district’s counselors are too focused on mental health instead of helping students prepare for college.

“Some of these kids, they’re just trying to get through the day, get through compacted math, get through algebra, go to cotillion on Sunday,” Eddins said. “They are not thinking about these issues.”

Two days after Eddins made the remarks, Southlake Families PAC — a group that has fought to stop a diversity plan at Carroll — sent an email to supporters calling on the school district to “Leave mental health and parenting to parents.”

Christina Edmiston, a Southlake resident and mother of two, was outraged when she saw the email. Earlier that month, Edmiston had pulled her 12-year-old son out of the Carroll district after he reported thoughts of suicide after having been bullied by classmates for his sexuality.
Many of the school programs under attack fall under the umbrella of social emotional learning, or SEL, a teaching philosophy popularized in recent years that aims to help children manage their feelings and show empathy for others. Conservative groups argue that social emotional learning has become a “Trojan horse” for critical race theory, a separate academic concept that examines how systemic racism is embedded in society. They point to SEL lessons that encourage children to celebrate diversity, sometimes introducing students to conversations about race, gender and sexuality.
Is it any wonder the children of these freaked-out conservative parents want to kill themselves, cripes.
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