State of the Union Speech

[Glennfs]

Needless to say it was interesting, more like an acceptance speech at the convention than a state of the union speech.

I can definitely see how President Biden's supporters would love it and how it might help people on the fence decide to give him 4 more years.

It was laid out perfectly in that the cadence helped him with his speech difficulties. Seemed like it was two to three sentences then a pause.
I noticed he faltered slightly a little after 10pm but not enough to be concerned about.

Overall I would say he did an excellent job and while it was strictly a campaign speech it was exactly what his lagging campaign needed. Whoever came up with the concept did an excellent job.

Next up let's see if it helps his poll numbers and if so how much and for how long

[gounion]

Needless to say it was interesting, more like an acceptance speech at the convention than a state of the union speech.

I can definitely see how President Biden's supporters would love it and how it might help people on the fence decide to give him 4 more years.

It was laid out perfectly in that the cadence helped him with his speech difficulties. Seemed like it was two to three sentences then a pause.
I noticed he faltered slightly a little after 10pm but not enough to be concerned about.

Overall I would say he did an excellent job and while it was strictly a campaign speech it was exactly what his lagging campaign needed. Whoever came up with the concept did an excellent job.

Next up let's see if it helps his poll numbers and if so how much and for how long

I'd say it was obviously Biden that came up with the concept of the speech. That's what a President does. Yes, he has speechwriters, but the President works VERY closely with them all along to get what he wants. And Biden was able to move away from the text of the speech as needed in powerful moments.

Whereas these days Trump reminds me of the "Liberty Biberty" guy on the commercials who can't get two words out these days.

The choice is clear.

[gounion]

Well, well, well... https://www.rawstory.com/joe-biden-fundraising/

"The Biden campaign let us let us know the 9:00 hour was the biggest fundraising hour of the campaign," said Lemire, who's also the White House bureau chief for Politico. "Amending it later saying, actually, the 10:00 p.m. [hour] was more, the best two hours of the entire campaign last night."

Biden raised at least $42 million for his re-election campaign and the Democratic Party last month, campaign officials said, on top of the $56 million cash advantage he held at the end of January over Trump's $30.5 million, and the Democratic National Committee reported $24 million in the bank in comparison to just $8.7 million for the Republican National Committee.

"They already walked into [Thursday] with a massive fundraising advantage over Donald Trump, who struggled to raise money," Lemire added. "Also, because he had to devote so much of the money he's raised to his legal bills. Even prior to last night, Democrats feel great about the speech, they felt like they had a significant financial advantage. They're going to be able to bury Trump in ads."

Biden's campaign and associated entities reported 172,000 unique donors in November, compared to 143,000 unique donors for Trump, and Republicans are beginning to worry that he'll spend too much campaign money on his legal bills.

"It ain't nothing that, last night, the 9:00 hour and then the 10:00 hour set fundraising records for a campaign that's already set fundraising records for the most money ever raised," said host Joe Scarborough. "I think people at home, not just Democrats, but I'm sure Republicans, moderate Republicans, swing voters, independents, had to really, really like what they heard when Donald trump once again had the contrast, time and again – somebody against freedom abroad, somebody that was against freedom at home. That's when Joe Biden really brought it home. He talked about freedom abroad, but then he talked about freedom at home, and women's freedom. Said back to the Supreme Court, 'Oh, yeah, you say women? They have the right to express themselves politically? Stand back, because they're just about to do that.'"

So, Joe and Glenn, your talking points are that everyone is more excited about Trump than Biden, that even the Dems hate Biden. If so, why are more people donating to Biden than Trump?

Trump's big draw, and what you, Glenn, have always pushed is how rich Trump is. But he's going to prove to be a deadbeat that can't pay his bills and needs all this money for himself, not for the campaign.

[gounion]

Glenn, your problem is that you've been screaming "DEMENTIA!" for so long with Biden that it's always exploded when Biden speaks. You told me he'd never be able to make it through a debate, that he doesn't know where he is, and all this, and that was four years ago. And this year's SOTU just showed how it's all bullshit. You only hurt your own cause, you really needed this reality check. https://www.rawstory.com/biden-sotu-gop-response/

Sarah Longwell, a one-time Republican pollster who has kept her distance from the party ever since the emergence of former President Donald Trump, said the GOP made a grievous error by setting expectations so low for President Joe Biden's State of the Union response.

Appearing on CNN Friday morning, Longwell said that Biden delivered an excellent address by any standard, but she added that its impact was enhanced because Republicans had spent so months writing off Biden as a doddering invalid on the cusp of death's door.

"Last night, what he said was for the Democratic base," Longwell explained. "But how he said it was for swing voters who needed to see that this guy was all there, that he could do the job. And I told you yesterday when I was on the show, the Republicans have made a mistake because they set the bar at dementia."

Longwell said that the sharpness of Biden's address made he easily cleared that bar and added that "if that's what dementia looks like then I hope that's how I have dementia when I'm older because he was on his game."

[Toonces]

I've seen several SOTU. They've all been campaign speeches.

[JoeMemphis]

I've seen several SOTU. They've all been campaign speeches.

That’s true. However, the difference this year is that in this speech they abandoned any attempt at any bipartisan moments. There are usually times when the President will say things that both parties can applaud. There was none of that.

If you like Biden or hate Trump or both, you probably liked the speech. If you don’t fall into those groups, nothing much changes. Just another campaign speech. Just another Sate of the Union speech. It will be forgotten in a week.

Meanwhile, folks are having trouble putting gas in their tanks and food on the table. That’s a day to day reminder of the “state of the union” along with migrants inundating our social services and wars abroad.

[Toonces]

That’s true. However, the difference this year is that in this speech they abandoned any attempt at any bipartisan moments. There are usually times when the President will say things that both parties can applaud. There was none of that.

If you like Biden or hate Trump or both, you probably liked the speech. If you don’t fall into those groups, nothing much changes. Just another campaign speech. Just another Sate of the Union speech. It will be forgotten in a week.

Meanwhile, folks are having trouble putting gas in their tanks and food on the table. That’s a day to day reminder of the “state of the union” along with migrants inundating our social services and wars abroad.

It wasn't Biden's fault that Republicans refused to applaud. Child care? Safe drinking water? They can't get behind that?

It's quite easy to blame Biden when you don't want to accept that Republicans are virulently contrarian. And, really, the SOTU DID address the cost of things. Biden can't control the price of milk or Wheaties if the companies that produce them are using these opportunities to earn massive, record profits. Expectedly, your blaming of migrants for causing many of the ills of the nation continues unabated. You'll deny this, of course, but it's a common theme. They continually get demonized even though they are a net positive for the country. (Now, more of your sage wisdom)

[ap215]

That didn't sound like some old washed up 81 yr old politician who wasn't prepared for The State Of The Union & the general election he was clearly prepared sharp & forceful that really shook all the talking point naysayers in the nooz media who were saying he's not the man for the job biden left them shitting in their pants he really put a smile in my face bravo Mr. President.

[JoeMemphis]

It wasn't Biden's fault that Republicans refused to applaud. Child care? Safe drinking water? They can't get behind that?

It's quite easy to blame Biden when you don't want to accept that Republicans are virulently contrarian. And, really, the SOTU DID address the cost of things. Biden can't control the price of milk or Wheaties if the companies that produce them are using these opportunities to earn massive, record profits. Expectedly, your blaming of migrants for causing many of the ills of the nation continues unabated. You'll deny this, of course, but it's a common theme. They continually get demonized even though they are a net positive for the country. (Now, more of your sage wisdom)

Its funny. You act as if the leader of the free world is powerless to do anything. He's a victim of those ruthless Republicans. A vast right wing conspiracy I suppose or some conspiracy between Trump, the Republicans and Putin to take over the world. Spare me.

According to you Biden can't control or influence anything. Nothing is his fault. He want credit for everything good and responsibility for nothing else. You will deny this or course.

If 8 to 10 million undocumented migrants are such a plus, you take em. You pay for em. I don't blame them. I blame an administration that set this shit storm in motion without a fucking plan as to how to house, educate, assimilate or otherwise care for all these people. But I guess that Biden had nothing to do with inviting them here or the executive orders he signed that set all this in motion. He's powerless according to you. A feather in the wind.

[gounion]

Its funny. You act as if the leader of the free world is powerless to do anything. He's a victim of those ruthless Republicans. A vast right wing conspiracy I suppose or some conspiracy between Trump, the Republicans and Putin to take over the world. Spare me.

According to you Biden can't control or influence anything. Nothing is his fault. He want credit for everything good and responsibility for nothing else. You will deny this or course.

If 8 to 10 million undocumented migrants are such a plus, you take em. You pay for em. I don't blame them. I blame an administration that set this shit storm in motion without a fucking plan as to how to house, educate, assimilate or otherwise care for all these people. But I guess that Biden had nothing to do with inviting them here or the executive orders he signed that set all this in motion. He's powerless according to you. A feather in the wind.

Did you know we don't have kings? Yes or no? Looks like you keep listening to Donald Trump.

[gounion]

Tell me, Joe, is it Joe Biden’s fault we aren’t funding Isreal and Ukraine’s defense? Yes or no?

Tell me, Joe, how does Joe Biden put more Border Patrol agents on the border and more Immigration judges in office to adjudicate cases?

Tell me, Joe, why did the GOP DEMAND a border bill, then negotiated one, then refused to vote for what they negotiated? How is that Joe Biden’s fault?

We found out last night that the GOP is no longer a party of adults. They are petulant children, and you’re going to vote for them.

[gounion]

Okay, Glenn, you’ve got new talking points on Biden: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/3 ... medium=web

Well, that settles it. President Joe Biden can’t possibly win this thing.

Just like Republicans have been telling Americans all along, Biden is too aggressive, too energetic, too fiery, too feisty, too forceful, too loud, too partisan, and definitely too political.

And the top Republican, Sean Hannity, is retiring “Sleep Joe” for “ hyper-caffeinated, angry old man” and “Jacked-up Joe”. https://www.thedailybeast.com/sean-hann ... ss?via=ios

It’s going to be hilarious watching you pivot.

[ZoWie]

Let's face it, you guys got it thrown right back in your faces.

From the way you talked, and from the narrative pushed by Radio Moscow, oops I mean the corporate Nooz, I did expect a tired, used-up, superannuated, old man to be helped out onto the floor, possibly in a wheelchair with a nurse in full scrubs pushing it, at which point he would come slowly to his feet and hang onto the podium for dear life, staring into the great beyond like a deer in the headlights of an 18-wheeler, before giving a rambling speech in which he couldn't remember what the House and Senate were called. You people really had me going.

You lose.

He looks the same as he's ever looked. I see no degeneration at all.

The only person who looked mentally impaired was MTG. Her constituents are fanatics, so they will like it, but let's say the critical reviews of her show were not good and let it go at that.

Gotcha. You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but the unpleasant truth remains that you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

[gounion]

And how does Donald Trump, supposedly adult candidate, reply to Joe Biden’s masterful SOTU speech? Why, with cartoons, of course! https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-hit ... at-filters

He applies Snapchat filters to make Biden look like Pinocchio, a dog and girl. I mean, what adult does this? I can see random Trumper fanboys doing it, but no, this is the candidate himself!

And then, after promising a blow-by-blow rebuttal of the speech, his own social media platform melts down.

This is a serious question: The man can’t make sure his own media platform is up to specs, how the FUCK do you expect him to run the country? Really?

Of course, neither Joe nor Glenn will say a bad word about Trump.

And what’s up with the crazed rebuttal by freshman Senator Katie Britt? Why is it, year after year, the GOP puts disastrous SOTU responses up? She ranks up there with thirsty Marco Rubio and Bobby Jindal for terrible, not-ready-for-prime time responses.

And Britt was talked about being on Trump’s shortlist for VP noms. Looks to me like the list just got shorter, as Trump won’t let anyone that’s as bad as he is on his ticket.

[gounion]

Let's face it, you guys got it thrown right back in your faces.

From the way you talked, and from the narrative pushed by Radio Moscow, oops I mean the corporate Nooz, I did expect a tired, used-up, superannuated, old man to be helped out onto the floor, possibly in a wheelchair with a nurse in full scrubs pushing it, at which point he would come slowly to his feet and hang onto the podium for dear life, staring into the great beyond like a deer in the headlights of an 18-wheeler, before giving a rambling speech in which he couldn't remember what the House and Senate were called. You people really had me going.

You lose.

He looks the same as he's ever looked. I see no degeneration at all.

The only person who looked mentally impaired was MTG. Her constituents are fanatics, so they will like it, but let's say the critical reviews of her show were not good and let it go at that.

Gotcha. You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but the unpleasant truth remains that you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

Yeah, I’m sure as Glenn’s driving today, he’s searching talk radio for his new marching orders.

[ZoWie]

- OFFICIAL ORDERS -

Wear red from head to toe, top it with a MAGA hat, wave a silly campaign button around, and never stop babbling.

/s/ Your fuhrer

[gounion]

That’s true. However, the difference this year is that in this speech they abandoned any attempt at any bipartisan moments. There are usually times when the President will say things that both parties can applaud. There was none of that.

If you like Biden or hate Trump or both, you probably liked the speech. If you don’t fall into those groups, nothing much changes. Just another campaign speech. Just another Sate of the Union speech. It will be forgotten in a week.

Meanwhile, folks are having trouble putting gas in their tanks and food on the table. That’s a day to day reminder of the “state of the union” along with migrants inundating our social services and wars abroad.

I’ll tell you how they’re putting gas in their tanks and food on their table -that’s with all the news jobs that are being created with Biden’s policies.

And why won’t the GOP applaud funding the freedom fighters in the Ukraine? Reagan would hate all you guys.

[ZoWie]

I think you meant "new jobs," though I agree that the Repuglican Potty does create an awful lot of news jobs.

[gounion]

I think you meant "new jobs," though I agree that the Repuglican Potty does create an awful lot of news jobs.

Yes, new jobs. Build Back Better and CHIPS Act, among other things, ARE working.

Trump kept having “Infrastructure weeks” where he pretended he was driving fire trucks, but Joe got the job done. Of course, that all stopped when the GOP took control of Congress.

This Congress is the second-best argument for not voting Republican, Trump being the first.

[ZoWie]

Clever strategy, though, throw a fit like a bunch of 9-year-olds who can't have ice cream, grab the attention of the Nooz which after all does love a good gong show, and convince the nonthinking public that the DemocRAT Party, as they have been ordered to call it, is The World's Great Satan.

Wish we'd thought of capturing the means of communication. By now there'd be no photogenic neo-Nazi rallies, far fewer energy-sapping look-at-me fits over hyped-up social issues, and no hordes of people who wish they'd been in Germany in 1934 for some real fun.

[Glennfs]

I’ll tell you how they’re putting gas in their tanks and food on their table -that’s with all the news jobs that are being created with Biden’s policies.

And why won’t the GOP applaud funding the freedom fighters in the Ukraine? Reagan would hate all you guys.

You always repeat thr company line. Making you either extremely partisan or low information or both.

Replying to your first two takes I hope you really want to discuss this and aren't just trolling so you can turn this into another Dear leader bullshit deal.

What makes you believe Biden wrote the speech. On his best day Biden was average at best. There is nothing in the last 60 years to indicate that Biden has ever had the ability to write a state of the union.

As for the speech if he were in a 10th grade speech and debate class a C would have been very generous. He slurred words at the end of sentences and at times was talking way to fast.

I wonder if he missed some paragraphs late. Because at times he had no Segway from one topic to.the next. It appeared he was slipping when he went back to Putin around 10;20 or so.

Back.to.him writing it. It probably takes 3 to 5 writers 3 to 5 weeks to write a state of the union. Even one that is only a campaign speech.

The president is far to busy to have more than a slight input. Things like takes that out and put this in.

Finally trying to make Biden seem like he is an intellectual or even has intelligence above average is laughable. He finished in the bottom of his class. He has repeatedly lied about his academic achievements. He has been caught cheating multiple times.

All we learned last night is he has the ability to read ( poorly) from a monitor for 60 minutes and not shit his pants. ( maybe)
That only after several practice runs. Will he defeat Trump hopefully yes. Has he accomplished any of the things you claim , no he hasn't. Are there dozens of better qualified people from.both parties to be our next president, yes there is.

I don't know if this latest democratic party strategy about claiming how brilliant he is will help him or hurt him.
I do know it is a shame he wasn't man enough to not run again. Putting his personal ego ahead of both his party and our country.

[gounion]

Yes, they have speechwriters. But the speech is overseen by the President and carefully crafted. You have no idea what goes into such a speech. I’ve been the key writer on big speeches, similar in scope and time to the SOTU for our union. It’s a big deal that takes weeks to do, and the President will be involved in every line.

And sorry, Glenn, the “doddering old fool” is no longer, as Ron Ziegler famously said “operable”.

And you can tell if Biden missed anything (and you don’t miss anything on a teleprompter - there is someone running it) - because the text is given out beforehand. So you can double check. But when Biden went off-script, it was to add, not delete.

The speech that was grade-school level was the one given by Senator Britt. I wonder whose idea it was to put the woman Senator in a kitchen to give her speech? I mean, sexist anyone?

It’s YOUR side that’s scrambling today. It’s a disaster for the GOP.

[ZoWie]

Biden like all presidents uses a sophisticated teleprompter system that indeed advances the on-screen text with a live human at the scroll buttons to keep pace with the talent on camera. Works the same way as the Nooz, but without the strict time constraints. No voice in the earpiece saying "Go into a wrap, commercial in 30 seconds." Just distractions like MTG in her MAGA campaign outfit making snide remarks and waving buttons in the air.

[Number6]

As mentioned before, the SOTU is a campaign speech that past Presidents have used to tout their accomplishments and announce their plans/policies for the future. One thing I noticed throughout the speech is Biden was able to go off-speech and confront the republicans and own them.

[Number6]

I taped the SOTU and watched it after returning from bowling. I also taped and watch the republican rebuttal by Sen. Britte. her rebuttal was up there with Marco Rubio. Had I only heard her speech and not seen it I would have sworn it was Sarah McLachlan asking for donations to the ASPCA with the crying in her voice. As for the substance of Britte's speech, only the most ardent republican will say it was great while most people, IMO, would say it was a nothing burger.