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Conservatives really do hate math. Via CNN:
The Florida Department of Education announced Friday the state has rejected more than 50 math textbooks from next school year's curriculum, citing references to critical race theory among reasons for the rejections.

In a news release, the department stated 54 out of 132 of the textbook submissions would not be added to the state's adopted list because they did not adhere to Florida's new standards or contained prohibited topics.

The release said the list of rejected books makes up approximately 41% of submissions, which is the most in Florida's history.

Reasons for rejecting textbooks included references to critical race theory, "inclusions of Common Core, and the unsolicited addition of Social Emotional Learning (SEL) in mathematics," the release states.
First, Critical Race Theory isn't taught in elementary or secondary schools. Second, WTF would be in a math textbook?

I'm guessing a picture of a black person.

But Governor Ron DeSantis is behind all this, and Glenn thinks he's a great governor and would vote for him for President in a New York minute.
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gounion wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:50 am Governor Ron DeSantis is behind all this, and Glenn thinks he's a great governor and would vote for him for President in a New York minute.
The south will rise again, Russia is their friend. :problem:

What these people are doing to public schools today is the mirror image of how the KKK badgered public schools 100 years ago.

The Fiery Cross paper from 1920s Indiana is a good study for this.

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There is TONS of this WN trash at the Indiana University libraries digital archive.

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I'm always surprised that the Klan and the right loves the Bible so much. I mean, Jeeze, it's full of Jews!
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gounion wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:50 am Conservatives really do hate math. Via CNN:



First, Critical Race Theory isn't taught in elementary or secondary schools. Second, WTF would be in a math textbook?

I'm guessing a picture of a black person.

But Governor Ron DeSantis is behind all this, and Glenn thinks he's a great governor and would vote for him for President in a New York minute.
Having not read or seen the books in question it would be foolish to judge them one way or the other.
What did you find when you read them
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:19 am Having not read or seen the books in question it would be foolish to judge them one way or the other.
What did you find when you read them
What critical race theory have you ever read in your undereducated life?
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:19 am
Kentucky 100 years ago:

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Glennfs wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:19 am
Kentucky last week:

The Final 48: Bills that made it through the General Assembly - Link NKY

Education: Senate Bill 1 calls for local superintendents – rather than school councils – to determine educational curriculum. It also includes language from the Teaching American Principles Act, which would require instruction in social studies to align with a list of core concepts and documents that supporters say are central to American civics.

The bill, sponsored by Sen. John Schickel (R-Union), will give superintendents the power to make curriculum, textbooks, and other essential personnel decisions.

“As the years have gone by, the need for this bill has become more and more apparent for those who work in our school systems,” Schickel said

Simon Kenton Teacher Leann Lewis issued a statement in January.

“SB 1 will undermine our ability to continue to serve our kids,” Lewis said. “We, as teachers, often hear the members of the Kentucky General Assembly talk about the importance of local control. There’s no better example of effective local governance than our elected SBDM councils.”

The Senate also added some last-minute language from Sen. Wise’s SB138, which would require schools to teach 24 documents recommended by the conservative Ashbrook Institute. Among the documents are Ronald Reagan’s political speech “A Time for Choosing” and “The Mayflower Compact.”
Ronald Reagan would begin his run for California governor after this speech.

He ran on a platform of overturning the Rumford Act Fair Housing law, and re-segregating housing by race.
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The Ronnie God and his party are as dead as Jacob Marley.

For a person who defends and supports the Traitor to quote Ray-Gun is sick and pathetic joke.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:19 am Having not read or seen the books in question it would be foolish to judge them one way or the other.
What did you find when you read them
Kinda hard to do - the GOP won’t release the names of the textbooks.

How do you think half of the math textbooks are teaching Critical Race Theory? Do you believe this?
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gounion wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:09 am Kinda hard to do - the GOP won’t release the names of the textbooks.

How do you think half of the math textbooks are teaching Critical Race Theory? Do you believe this?
None of these confederates would even recognize critical race theory if it were right under their nose.

They think it's any mention of race that doesn't place whites at the top of the heap.

These days, whites are even the most discriminated against, according to this individual.

:problem:

People should really read these Fiery Cross newspapers. All they talk about is how victimized they are by Catholics, Jews, illegal immigrants, and Negroes.

These days, the conservative whites have knocked "Catholics" off the list...at least out loud.
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gounion wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:33 am I'm always surprised that the Klan and the right loves the Bible so much. I mean, Jeeze, it's full of Jews!
BTW, there is a quite significant segment of (RW) Christians who believe in some variant of what's called "Identity theory" or "British Israelite-ism".

What they believe is that Anglo-Saxons aka "Aryans" are the real "children of Israel" whereas today's Jews are actually inferior, Semitic "mud people" born of the Devil, etc. They also really do believe that Jesus was a blond-haired, blue-eyed "Aryan" and thus not a Jew.
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gounion wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:09 am Kinda hard to do - the GOP won’t release the names of the textbooks.

How do you think half of the math textbooks are teaching Critical Race Theory? Do you believe this?
The Troll does not read, why am I not surprised.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:19 am Having not read or seen the books in question it would be foolish to judge them one way or the other.
What did you find when you read them
This is not the way claims and assertions work. Since 3000 years ago or so, the burden of proof is on the person making the claim or assertion.

If you say unicorns exist, you need to show me proof. Not a retort like "prove unicorns don't exist" - that's impossible. (Maybe they do on some other planet or in some other dimension?)

DeSantis & Corcoran are claiming these textbooks contain "CRT". Well, they need to show examples of what they found and prove it. Thing is, I know they're lying, or delusional, or some mixture of both. There is no CRT in K-12 textbooks and there is no possible way it could be in a math textbook.

More interesting question, as I asked - for what reason are they banning textbooks they SAY contain "Common Core" or "SEL" material - is there some reason those are unsuitable for FL students, even if the claim can be believed?

The only thing worse than a lying or delusional governor would be giving this guy higher office.
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carmenjonze wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:38 am The Senate also added some last-minute language from Sen. Wise’s SB138, which would require schools to teach 24 documents recommended by the conservative Ashbrook Institute. Among the documents are Ronald Reagan’s political speech “A Time for Choosing” and “The Mayflower Compact.”
I love it. With the same un-ironic straight face, they mandate things like this, then say they oppose "indoctrination" in our schools. :roll:
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gounion wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:50 am Conservatives really do hate math. Via CNN:



First, Critical Race Theory isn't taught in elementary or secondary schools. Second, WTF would be in a math textbook?

I'm guessing a picture of a black person.

But Governor Ron DeSantis is behind all this, and Glenn thinks he's a great governor and would vote for him for President in a New York minute.
It appears the reason comes from a fake equation that wasn't in any math book but came from an unapproved assignment from a school in Missouri.
It led many to mock the extreme lengths that Gov. Ron DeSantis is going to eliminate things he finds objectionable. The story sparked outrage before it ultimately gave into mockery with people making jokes about math being "divisive" and that remainders are "socialist."

As blogger JoeMyGod observed, Florida state Rep. Carlos G. Smith asked the DeSantis' administration to show proof that the textbooks were "indoctrinating" the state's youth. What his staff came up with, however, was a problem that wasn't even in one of the books and was actually from Missouri.

When DeSantis' press secretary Christina Pushaw posted screen captures of objectionable math problems, it turned people to search which math book would use such a math problem, only to discover that the problem wasn't in a book. It was part of an internet worksheet and the company that posted it online had it removed.

Another individual found the actual post on the website with the questions that the supplemental site came up with. It clearly shows that someone edited the worksheet.
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Number6 wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:52 pm It appears the reason comes from a fake equation that wasn't in any math book but came from an unapproved assignment from a school in Missouri.
But even then, that's only ONE textbook!
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So the one example shown so far is a practice problem from a publisher as a supplement to the math textbook that uses elements of Maya Angelou's life as a way to find the answers to an algebraic equation.

a) what's so objectionable? it's an unusual approach to teaching math but is there something horrible about learning about Maya Angelou's life while solving a math problem?
b) that is not "CRT" :roll:
c) it's a practice problem they are not using anymore and the "objectionable" version from Missouri completely distorts how the questions were presented (like claiming they asked about "pimps")

Boy, that's weak.
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ProfX wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:30 pm So the one example shown so far is a practice problem from a publisher as a supplement to the math textbook that uses elements of Maya Angelou's life as a way to find the answers to an algebraic equation.

a) what's so objectionable? it's an unusual approach to teaching math but is there something horrible about learning about Maya Angelou's life while solving a math problem?
b) that is not "CRT" :roll:
c) it's a practice problem they are not using anymore and the "objectionable" version from Missouri completely distorts how the questions were presented (like claiming they asked about "pimps")

Boy, that's weak.
Like I said, all it takes is a picture of a black person to freak them out.
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gounion wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:33 am I'm always surprised that the Klan and the right loves the Bible so much. I mean, Jeeze, it's full of Jews!
Board con can’t wait to vote for DeSantis, and the reason he wants to vote for him is because they have racism and hatred in common.

Soon they will have locking up or killing anyone who disagrees with them in common.

Sooner than most think.
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This is all part of the DeSantis version of CRT where CRT stands for Can't Read That.
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Number6 wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:10 pm This is all part of the DeSantis version of CRT where CRT stands for Can't Read That.
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I think my spider sense was right on this one. Follow the money, and the interests.

As DeSantis administration rejects textbooks, only one publisher allowed for K-5 math classes in Florida
https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/ ... 357965001/

Historically, when Florida school districts reevaluate which math instructional materials they will use, they have had more than one publisher to choose from.

Now, the only publisher approved by Gov. Ron DeSantis and the Florida Department of Education for K-5 mathematics is Accelerate Learning, a company out of Houston, Texas.

“In the subject area as large as mathematics for grades K through five, it is unusual for there only to be one publisher to choose from," said Billy Epting, assistant superintendent for academic services for Leon County Schools.

[snip]

The Carlyle Group, a global investment firm, acquired Accelerate Learning on Dec. 20, 2018, according to the firm's website.

During that time, Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin was the co-CEO of the firm. After 25 years with the company, Youngkin resigned in 2020 to run for office in Virginia.

The first thing Youngkin did as governor of Virginia was sign an executive order to "end the use of inherently divisive concepts, including critical race theory, and restoring excellence in K-12 public education in the commonwealth," a measure that's comparable to DeSantis' "Stop WOKE Act."

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Like many politicians, I suspect Youngkin's financial interests in the company did not stop when he stepped down as CEO.
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GOP are the enemies of the human race EXACTLY the way the Nazi party and hitler were.

NO DIFFERENCE
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ProfX wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:25 pm I think my spider sense was right on this one. Follow the money, and the interests.

As DeSantis administration rejects textbooks, only one publisher allowed for K-5 math classes in Florida
https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/ ... 357965001/

Historically, when Florida school districts reevaluate which math instructional materials they will use, they have had more than one publisher to choose from.

Now, the only publisher approved by Gov. Ron DeSantis and the Florida Department of Education for K-5 mathematics is Accelerate Learning, a company out of Houston, Texas.

“In the subject area as large as mathematics for grades K through five, it is unusual for there only to be one publisher to choose from," said Billy Epting, assistant superintendent for academic services for Leon County Schools.

[snip]

The Carlyle Group, a global investment firm, acquired Accelerate Learning on Dec. 20, 2018, according to the firm's website.

During that time, Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin was the co-CEO of the firm. After 25 years with the company, Youngkin resigned in 2020 to run for office in Virginia.

The first thing Youngkin did as governor of Virginia was sign an executive order to "end the use of inherently divisive concepts, including critical race theory, and restoring excellence in K-12 public education in the commonwealth," a measure that's comparable to DeSantis' "Stop WOKE Act."

[snip][end]

Like many politicians, I suspect Youngkin's financial interests in the company did not stop when he stepped down as CEO.
Yea, I said it was gonna be something like Bob Jones U. Homeschool Press, or such.

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I know in my math classes, "show your work" was often important in explaining how you solved a math problem, but the Guv & his cronies don't seem to believe in that.

Vetting new math textbooks in FL: Some books got high scores but mysteriously were rejected
Publishers perplexed over decisions made by Department of Education’s math textbook review
https://floridaphoenix.com/2022/04/19/v ... -rejected/

[snip]

The publishers of these textbooks don’t seem to know either, even through the department gave high scores to some of their mathematics books but the books were rejected as part of a state review on math textbooks in Florida.

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According to a new link from Department of Education, one of Savvas’s books, enVision Florida B.E.S.T Mathematics Grade 2, received a high score from the department for aligning to new state standards, but was rejected for “Inclusion of Special Topics.”

Which topics? The document does not elaborate.

The new link showed up Monday on the department’s website, outlining the 54 books that were rejected; a score indicating the books’ alignment to state math standards, and a “yes” or “no” response to the prompt “inclusion of special topics.”

Yet, a Friday Department of Education press release promoted the department’s rejection of “Publishers’ Attempts to Indoctrinate Students,” reasons for which included “references to Critical Race Theory (CRT), inclusions of Common Core, and the unsolicited addition of Social Emotional Learning (SEL) in mathematics.”

(Common Core is an earlier initiative that involved K-12 math and English standards for what students should know and would be considered consistent across states. The initiative became controversial. As to critical race theory, that originated in graduate level law studies decades ago, according to the American Bar Association.)

Another rejected Savvas math textbook, simply titled Precalculus, received one of the highest scores on the the list in aligning with state standards. Yet it also had “Inclusion of Special Topics.” It was rejected, according to state documents.

McGraw Hill, another textbook industry staple, had eight of their books rejected by the department out of 16 submitted titles.

One of their books, Florida Reveal Math, Grade 2, was also fairly aligned to state standards, and did not have so-called “special topics” included, but was not approved by the department, according to state documents. (My note: So; why?)

McGraw Hill seems fuzzy on the details of their rejection too.

[snip]

Meanwhile, for K-5 grades, the state department approved math textbooks from only one company, Accelerate Learning, even if the department found those textbooks were less aligned to state standards than the ones they rejected.

For example, Accelerate Learning’s STEMscopes Florida Math for fifth grade earned a lower score than Big Ideas Learning’s Florida B.E.S.T for Math, Grade 5. But Big Ideas Learning’s book did not make it on to the approved list, even though it did not include so-called “special topics” and had a higher score.

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Timmy, here is a math problem.

Math Textbook A (let's call it "Macaw Hill") has a higher score, meets more of the state's own standards, and is used by more states.
Textbook B (let's call it "Decelerate Learning") has a lower score, meets less of its own standards, and is the only one being adopted by the Governor.

Timmy, is the Governor corrupt, an idiot, full of BS, or a mixture of all three? :D
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