If this does not stop
If this does not stop
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I will not tolerate being called a rapist. If this does not stop I will take legal action which will probably result in Rich shutting down the board.
I have children and grandchildren who could stumble across that slander.
I am a professional who owns a trucking company. Slander like that could effect me professionally and financially.
No person deserves to be falsely accused of rape. I cannot express how that slander causes me mental anguish and anxiety on every level.
I am not making any threats. I am telling you I will have my lawyer write Rich a cease and desist letter. Rich leaves this up as a favor and does not want or need any grief created by this board.
Being called a rapist is just about the most vile and slanderous thing one person could do to another
I will not tolerate it.
I will not tolerate being called a rapist. If this does not stop I will take legal action which will probably result in Rich shutting down the board.
I have children and grandchildren who could stumble across that slander.
I am a professional who owns a trucking company. Slander like that could effect me professionally and financially.
No person deserves to be falsely accused of rape. I cannot express how that slander causes me mental anguish and anxiety on every level.
I am not making any threats. I am telling you I will have my lawyer write Rich a cease and desist letter. Rich leaves this up as a favor and does not want or need any grief created by this board.
Being called a rapist is just about the most vile and slanderous thing one person could do to another
I will not tolerate it.
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Is there more than one person on here who knows your real name?
I don't. (And I'm not interested, either.)
I assume you are using your real first name. I believe GoU knows your last name. As I said, I don't care to know.
Only point I'm making is people say all kinds of things about each other on an anonymous board. Your case that this could have impact on your life if no one knows your real name, would seem to be weak.
I don't. (And I'm not interested, either.)
I assume you are using your real first name. I believe GoU knows your last name. As I said, I don't care to know.
Only point I'm making is people say all kinds of things about each other on an anonymous board. Your case that this could have impact on your life if no one knows your real name, would seem to be weak.
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Several but even if it were zero that is no excuse for doing something so vile and disgustingProfX wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 12:13 pm Is there more than one person on here who knows your real name?
I don't. (And I'm not interested, either.)
I assume you are using your real first name. I believe GoU knows your last name. As I said, I don't care to know.
Only point I'm making is people say all kinds of things about each other on an anonymous board. Your case that this could have impact on your life if no one knows your real name, would seem to be weak.
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I have your back on this one Glenn.
If it were up to me someone here would be looking at a log-on screen that says they're banned.
If it were up to me someone here would be looking at a log-on screen that says they're banned.
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So, we all know the 5x5 situation for the board, yes?
No active rules. You can repost them from the old version. That doesn't mean they are in effect for this new one. (I'm not saying I had anything against the old rules, but I'm just stating current reality.)
There is no active moderation. The active "site manager" and the board owner do not want to moderate, so no one is doing it. There is a report button, and for that reason, I guess it will do nothing.
In effect all users including me are agreeing to this situation by using it. There is an option if you don't like it - don't. Right?
Seems to me, then, you have the final option: there is an ignore button, and if you don't want to see a person's posts, you use it. But this is not achieved simply by typing "ignore" in response to them.
I don't quite see what threatening the site owner with legal action for someone stating something about an anonymous user could or is supposed to accomplish, though.
Final point: the person alleging false things are being said about them, (whether or not they are), has a long history of saying false things about other people, so ... well, that's it, I guess.
No active rules. You can repost them from the old version. That doesn't mean they are in effect for this new one. (I'm not saying I had anything against the old rules, but I'm just stating current reality.)
There is no active moderation. The active "site manager" and the board owner do not want to moderate, so no one is doing it. There is a report button, and for that reason, I guess it will do nothing.
In effect all users including me are agreeing to this situation by using it. There is an option if you don't like it - don't. Right?
Seems to me, then, you have the final option: there is an ignore button, and if you don't want to see a person's posts, you use it. But this is not achieved simply by typing "ignore" in response to them.
I don't quite see what threatening the site owner with legal action for someone stating something about an anonymous user could or is supposed to accomplish, though.
Final point: the person alleging false things are being said about them, (whether or not they are), has a long history of saying false things about other people, so ... well, that's it, I guess.
"Don't believe every quote attributed to people on the Internet" -- Abraham Lincoln
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It seems to me any decent person would be opposed to accusations of rape regardless of the rulesProfX wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 4:15 pm So, we all know the 5x5 situation for the board, yes?
No active rules. You can repost them from the old version. That doesn't mean they are in effect for this new one. (I'm not saying I had anything against the old rules, but I'm just stating current reality.)
There is no active moderation. The active "site manager" and the board owner do not want to moderate, so no one is doing it. There is a report button, and for that reason, I guess it will do nothing.
In effect all users including me are agreeing to this situation by using it. There is an option if you don't like it - don't. Right?
Seems to me, then, you have the final option: there is an ignore button, and if you don't want to see a person's posts, you use it. But this is not achieved simply by typing "ignore" in response to them.
I don't quite see what threatening the site owner with legal action for someone stating something about an anonymous user could or is supposed to accomplish, though.
Final point: the person alleging false things are being said about them, (whether or not they are), has a long history of saying false things about other people, so ... well, that's it, I guess.
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That gets into philosophical, legal, and ethical questions, namely whether statutory rape is actual rape, something at the moment that I'm not interested in offering an opinion on.
You've said many things as a decent person I find to be offensive, trolling, and indecent, in case you're asking. But maybe you shouldn't ask.
You've said many things as a decent person I find to be offensive, trolling, and indecent, in case you're asking. But maybe you shouldn't ask.
"Don't believe every quote attributed to people on the Internet" -- Abraham Lincoln
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glenn, carmen provided a link where you said "In 1976 I had sex with a girl who was about 10 days shy of her 16th birthday and I was 5 months past my 18th. So did I rape her? Btw we've been married since 1980". The fact you're married now doesn't matter, it's what happened back then that matters. Technically, and legally, what you did could be called rape or statutory rape. carmen calling you a rapist is over the line but by your own admission what you did back then fits the definition of a rapist.
Now, whether you have a legal case against her, this board, or any other poster on this board concerning this matter IMO it would be hard for you prosecute because the evidence of what they said about you came directly from you. It would be like taking offense from her because she called you a truck driver. The fact that you identified yourself as a truck driver would nullify any claims of damage against her because she's accurately describing you in your own words.
Now, whether you have a legal case against her, this board, or any other poster on this board concerning this matter IMO it would be hard for you prosecute because the evidence of what they said about you came directly from you. It would be like taking offense from her because she called you a truck driver. The fact that you identified yourself as a truck driver would nullify any claims of damage against her because she's accurately describing you in your own words.
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Love of Country is not Blind Patriotism. It is not devotion to one person or one party. It is knowing fighting for your country is single most important thing you can do. Do not accept the notion violence is the answer.
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Your problem here Glenn, is that you are damned by your own words. You admitted to engaging in sex with an underage girl.
At the time you engage in sexual congress, you were 18-Years Old. She was 15-Years Old, age of Consent is 16. You committed the act of rape.
You cannot make claim of liable, you admitted your crime.
You cannot claim character assassination, you admitted your crime.
You cannot lie under oath and you make your wife lie under oath, courts take a very dim view of perjury.
You assert that members of this forum were attacking you, you admitted to your crime.
You might be able to delete your posts, but you cannot delete posts of other members where your admission is quoted. Also destruction of evidence is against the law.
You cannot claim that members of forum coerced you or intimidated you into making you admission. You admitted you crime of your own free will and volition (the facility or power of using one's own free will).
You cannot claim, without proof that another member hacked your account to make the post.
Your current situation is one of your own creation. You are damned by your own words.
You have no legal grounds for defamation or slander.
You are now eating a huge pile of your own shit. You might want to put whipped cream or ice cream on it to make it taste better.
At the time you engage in sexual congress, you were 18-Years Old. She was 15-Years Old, age of Consent is 16. You committed the act of rape.
You cannot make claim of liable, you admitted your crime.
You cannot claim character assassination, you admitted your crime.
You cannot lie under oath and you make your wife lie under oath, courts take a very dim view of perjury.
You assert that members of this forum were attacking you, you admitted to your crime.
You might be able to delete your posts, but you cannot delete posts of other members where your admission is quoted. Also destruction of evidence is against the law.
You cannot claim that members of forum coerced you or intimidated you into making you admission. You admitted you crime of your own free will and volition (the facility or power of using one's own free will).
You cannot claim, without proof that another member hacked your account to make the post.
Your current situation is one of your own creation. You are damned by your own words.
You have no legal grounds for defamation or slander.
You are now eating a huge pile of your own shit. You might want to put whipped cream or ice cream on it to make it taste better.
Love of Country is not Blind Patriotism. It is not devotion to one person or one party. It is knowing fighting for your country is single most important thing you can do. Do not accept the notion violence is the answer.
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That's a load of horseshit Number6.Number6 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 5:53 pm glenn, carmen provided a link where you said "In 1976 I had sex with a girl who was about 10 days shy of her 16th birthday and I was 5 months past my 18th. So did I rape her? Btw we've been married since 1980". The fact you're married now doesn't matter, it's what happened back then that matters. Technically, and legally, what you did could be called rape or statutory rape. carmen calling you a rapist is over the line but by your own admission what you did back then fits the definition of a rapist.
Now, whether you have a legal case against her, this board, or any other poster on this board concerning this matter IMO it would be hard for you prosecute because the evidence of what they said about you came directly from you. It would be like taking offense from her because she called you a truck driver. The fact that you identified yourself as a truck driver would nullify any claims of damage against her because she's accurately describing you in your own words.
What happened 40 years ago has no bearing on what is happening today, and today Carmen was, and has been, being dreadfully and tastefully out of line.
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Your load of horseshit stinks as bad as Number6's load of horseshit.marindem01 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:56 pm Your problem here Glenn, is that you are damned by your own words. You admitted to engaging in sex with an underage girl.
At the time you engage in sexual congress, you were 18-Years Old. She was 15-Years Old, age of Consent is 16. You committed the act of rape.
You cannot make claim of liable, you admitted your crime.
You cannot claim character assassination, you admitted your crime.
You cannot lie under oath and you make your wife lie under oath, courts take a very dim view of perjury.
You assert that members of this forum were attacking you, you admitted to your crime.
You might be able to delete your posts, but you cannot delete posts of other members where your admission is quoted. Also destruction of evidence is against the law.
You cannot claim that members of forum coerced you or intimidated you into making you admission. You admitted you crime of your own free will and volition (the facility or power of using one's own free will).
You cannot claim, without proof that another member hacked your account to make the post.
Your current situation is one of your own creation. You are damned by your own words.
You have no legal grounds for defamation or slander.
You are now eating a huge pile of your own shit. You might want to put whipped cream or ice cream on it to make it taste better.
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There is no slander involved Glenn.
No one is making a false spoken or written statment.
You made the admission Glenn. You admitted to engaging in sex with underage teenage girl. Age of consent is 16 Glenn, she was 15.
For there to slander there has to intent to fabricate false and/or misleading statments. There has been no intent. You made a statement, that statement has repeated by other members. There is no slander.
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How is telling the horseshit?sam lefthand wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:13 pm Your load of horseshit stinks as bad as Number6's load of horseshit.
Glenn made a statement. He admitted to a crime. No horseshit, just the truth.
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Glenn admitted having sex with an underage girl. Glenn admits to it. Carmen is NOT out line. She simply repeated what Glenn had already written.sam lefthand wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:12 pm That's a load of horseshit Number6.
What happened 40 years ago has no bearing on what is happening today, and today Carmen was, and has been, being dreadfully and tastefully out of line.
Cons circling the wagons around another Con. No surprise.
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A crime isn't in the aspect here, incivility amoung a social group is the issue here and now.marindem01 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:23 pm How is telling the horseshit?
Glenn made a statement. He admitted to a crime. No horseshit, just the truth.
Reason, fairness, civility.
Not 40 years ago, today.
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I got a solution for this, I'm turning around and walking off.marindem01 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:25 pm Glenn admitted having sex with an underage girl. Glenn admits to it. Carmen is NOT out line. She simply repeated what Glenn had already written.
Cons circling the wagons around another Con. No surprise.
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So ... people being rude to each other on the Internet. How long does that go back? Well, before there was an Internet, I remember things like BBSes and Usenet and AOL and whatever else, and people being rude to each other.
In general, here's how almost all handle it. 1) they have rules 2) they have moderators who enforce those rules and 3) the moderators usually have the power to suspend or ban.
This board has none. Everybody using it at this point knows it. Right?
Next question: so what can you do about those you consider "uncivil"? Short of leaving? you can complain, you can ask them to stop, or you can ignore them.
Personally, I do not "have the back" of someone threatening the site owner with legal action that would shut down the board, or using their real name on the board without their permission. No, no I do not.
I will also only point out said person regularly calls liberals socialists and communists, called another poster a racist (even if he denied doing it in a thread, he most definitely has done it on the board), without evidence, said people questioning the Kyle Rittenhouse verdict are in fact people who support career violent criminals, and called Bill Clinton a rapist. Now, again, I will note a few things. Bill Clinton is a public figure. He is not on this board. He may very well be one. I can't say for certain he isn't. But by the Ikean standard I've mentioned - never been found guilty of said crime in a court of law. And I have every doubt in the universe he doesn't give a shit that someone on a MB said he is a rapist.
In effect, though, I'm not sure what the difference is. Other than Bill Clinton isn't a member here, but still.
In general, here's how almost all handle it. 1) they have rules 2) they have moderators who enforce those rules and 3) the moderators usually have the power to suspend or ban.
This board has none. Everybody using it at this point knows it. Right?
Next question: so what can you do about those you consider "uncivil"? Short of leaving? you can complain, you can ask them to stop, or you can ignore them.
Personally, I do not "have the back" of someone threatening the site owner with legal action that would shut down the board, or using their real name on the board without their permission. No, no I do not.
I will also only point out said person regularly calls liberals socialists and communists, called another poster a racist (even if he denied doing it in a thread, he most definitely has done it on the board), without evidence, said people questioning the Kyle Rittenhouse verdict are in fact people who support career violent criminals, and called Bill Clinton a rapist. Now, again, I will note a few things. Bill Clinton is a public figure. He is not on this board. He may very well be one. I can't say for certain he isn't. But by the Ikean standard I've mentioned - never been found guilty of said crime in a court of law. And I have every doubt in the universe he doesn't give a shit that someone on a MB said he is a rapist.
In effect, though, I'm not sure what the difference is. Other than Bill Clinton isn't a member here, but still.
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Dear asshole in 1977 the legal age of consent was 13 plus my wife of over 40 years then girl friend was less then a week from her 16th birthday.marindem01 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:23 pm How is telling the horseshit?
Glenn made a statement. He admitted to a crime. No horseshit, just the truth.
You fuckers keep this up and I will see this board shut down.
I am not playing and will not tolerate being called a rapist
I earn over 6 figures and can certainly afford to have my attorney write a letter.
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glenn, in which state in 1977 did this happen?Glennfs wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:48 pm Dear asshole in 1977 the legal age of consent was 13 plus my wife of over 40 years then girl friend was less then a week from her 16th birthday.
You fuckers keep this up and I will see this board shut down.
I am not playing and will not tolerate being called a rapist
I earn over 6 figures and can certainly afford to have my attorney write a letter.
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Ohio I am amazed you folks don't find this trolling disgusting and aren't ashamed that it is coming from people who are like minded politically.
Tonight I was accused of being a pedophile rapist.
I have asked nicely for it to end. I have asked forcefully for it to end.
Instead it has gotten worse. I don't see very many more options.
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glenn, in Googling what the age of consent was in Ohio in 1977 I found the age of consent was 16. Now, Ohio may have/had Romeo and Juliet laws where those under the age of 18 engaging in consensual sex may or may not constitute rape.Glennfs wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:14 pm Ohio I am amazed you folks don't find this trolling disgusting and aren't ashamed that it is coming from people who are like minded politically.
Tonight I was accused of being a pedophile rapist.
I have asked nicely for it to end. I have asked forcefully for it to end.
Instead it has gotten worse. I don't see very many more options.
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This is total bullshit. On August 27th 1977 me and my then girlfriend now wife made love for the first time. 5 days before her 16th birthday.
Now I have to tolerate being called a pedophile who raped a 15 year old.
Sorry boys this will not stand. I am a professional person who owns a business with professional children. Look it up this is slander I can't have my children grandchildren or business associates accidentally seeing those slanderous accusations.
I have reached out to the owner of the site for intervention. I don't know how soon he will see my request but after he steps in we will go from there.
While I am not surprised at the two who have done this I am amazed that the rest of you are ok with it. The easiest way to end this would be to not falsely accuse and slandered.
Finally in 1977 a 13 year old could give consent to her boyfriend. But, again that is not the issue here the issue is how we treat our fellow man.
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NO the crime is the aspect. Glenn admitted to raping a 15-Year Old Girl.sam lefthand wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:44 pm A crime isn't in the aspect here, incivility amoung a social group is the issue here and now.
Reason, fairness, civility.
Not 40 years ago, today.
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