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gounion wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:33 pm I was talking about Reagan and the Contras. ALL the Congress said no funding for Contras, not just the Dems.

What say you?

As for the shutdowns - no, don't blame the internet. Blame the Republicans. They've been shutting the government down long before the internet.

And as for rotten representatives, those are the Republicans, right up to Trump. Yet you support them and say we should never vote for dems.
I say the democratic party sided with the communists because Reagan was getting to popular and it was hurting them politically.

Why do you believe the democratic party chose to side with the communist
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:39 pm I say the democratic party sided with the communists because Reagan was getting to popular and it was hurting them politically.

Why do you believe the democratic party chose to side with the communist
Well, to start with, the FACT is EVERY Congressperson - Dem AND Republican - voted not to fund the Contras.

Why is that, Glenn?

I just looked into the history - never did before. The Sandinistas did overthrow the prior dictatorship. But they ended up having an elected representative government, of the parliamentary form. It wasn't, nor is it, a communist dictatorship.

Now, the problem is, most South American governments are quite corrupt, and elections aren't often free. Looking at the history, Donald Trump seems to be using lessons from them. The Contras were really nasty, big on murder, rape and torture where they were in control. Again, something that conservatives don't seem to mind when choosing who to support.

But the fact is, the entire Congress refused to fund the Contras, so quit blaming the dems and red-baiting, like you so love to do.
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:39 pm I say the democratic party sided with the communists because Reagan was getting to popular and it was hurting them politically.

Why do you believe the democratic party chose to side with the communist
Every year since reagan administration there has been farm aid concerts. Started in 1985 still happening in 2023.
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gounion wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:48 pm Well, to start with, the FACT is EVERY Congressperson - Dem AND Republican - voted not to fund the Contras.

Why is that, Glenn?

I just looked into the history - never did before. The Sandinistas did overthrow the prior dictatorship. But they ended up having an elected representative government, of the parliamentary form. It wasn't, nor is it, a communist dictatorship.

Now, the problem is, most South American governments are quite corrupt, and elections aren't often free. Looking at the history, Donald Trump seems to be using lessons from them. The Contras were really nasty, big on murder, rape and torture where they were in control. Again, something that conservatives don't seem to mind when choosing who to support.

But the fact is, the entire Congress refused to fund the Contras, so quit blaming the dems and red-baiting, like you so love to do.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Sep 25, 2023 6:07 am Link please or quit demanding links from others.
ProfX already gave you the link. Please try to keep up.
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gounion wrote: Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:06 am ProfX already gave you the link. Please try to keep up.
I rarely look at X links because unlike you I have never known X to lie.
I just went back and checked it out and yes the Boland Amendment passed 411 to 0.

That aside why am I not surprised that you are outraged that Reagan opposed socialist and communism spreading to our hemisphere.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 6:54 am I rarely look at X links because unlike you I have never known X to lie.
I just went back and checked it out and yes the Boland Amendment passed 411 to 0.

That aside why am I not surprised that you are outraged that Reagan opposed socialist and communism spreading to our hemisphere.
That wasn't what he was doing.

So why have you lied that it's only the Dems that opposed the funding?

Why did EVERY Republican also do so?
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gounion wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 7:04 am That wasn't what he was doing.

So why have you lied that it's only the Dems that opposed the funding?

Why did EVERY Republican also do so?
Like you I wasn't aware of the Boland Amendment until X brought it up.

As for why it was included I like you do not know. To learn why a person would have to do a deep dive into yhe political atmosphere of 1985.
So you go ahead and do that and when you post your report along with multiple sources I will be sure and read it.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 7:12 am Like you I wasn't aware of the Boland Amendment until X brought it up.

As for why it was included I like you do not know. To learn why a person would have to do a deep dive into yhe political atmosphere of 1985.
So you go ahead and do that and when you post your report along with multiple sources I will be sure and read it.
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It's because you were full of shit, Glenn. I looked into it, unlike you. I can read, unlike you.

When you're asked to read you say "Oh I have so much to do I don't have time". :lol: :lol: :lol:

The Contras were worse than the Sandinistas. They weren't freedom fighters. And the Sandinistas were the freely elected government.

I've always disagreed with the American government interfering with other nation's autonomy if they weren't directly attacking the USA. That's what got us into trouble in Iran. We kept a butcher in power.

But go ahead, explain why Reagan went against his own party.
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gounion wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 7:16 am It's because you were full of shit, Glenn. I looked into it, unlike you. I can read, unlike you.

When you're asked to read you say "Oh I have so much to do I don't have time". :lol: :lol: :lol:

The Contras were worse than the Sandinistas. They weren't freedom fighters. And the Sandinistas were the freely elected government.

I've always disagreed with the American government interfering with other nation's autonomy if they weren't directly attacking the USA. That's what got us into trouble in Iran. We kept a butcher in power.

But go ahead, explain why Reagan went against his own party.
So you prefer the anti-USA socialist to be in charge. As opposed to a pro-USA government.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 7:27 am So you prefer the anti-USA socialist to be in charge. As opposed to a pro-USA government.
I think that people should make their own decisions in a nation.

I guess you aren't pro-freedom to make their own decisions.

Reagan broke the law. And you're fine with it.

Explain why every Republican said no.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/02/stock-m ... dates.html

Stocks tumble as interests rates spike.

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It is a talent to simultaneously complain about inflation and high-interest rates at the same time. Kudos!
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Toonces wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 3:20 pm It is a talent to simultaneously complain about inflation and high-interest rates at the same time. Kudos!
Glenn wants America to fail so that Trump can beat Biden in 2024.
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gounion wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 4:11 pm Glenn wants America to fail so that Trump can beat Biden in 2024.
Feelings still hurt I see.
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 8:44 am Feelings still hurt I see.
Not a bit. I'm not a Trump fanboy, but we all know YOU are.
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gounion wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:07 am Not a bit. I'm not a Trump fanboy, but we all know YOU are.
Yes any criticism of Biden is praise for Trump. In the minds of low information liberals.
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 3:36 pm Yes any criticism of Biden is praise for Trump. In the minds of low information liberals.
Here's your sign
You can't deal with issues.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/20/us-wrap ... llion.html

Deficit spending up over 20pct way to.go Joe
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gounion wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 3:36 pm You can't deal with issues.
You can’t deal with facts.
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gounion wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:29 am You can’t deal with facts.
You mean like the border crisis
You mean like the deficit crisis
You mean like the inflation crisis
You mean like the exploding interest rates

You mean those facts?
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The above post is completely divorced from reality.

At least the border crisis actually exists, though Glenn always seems to ignore its cause being outside the control of the US government, especially at a time when the Republicans are doing their version of anarchy.

Everything else is the result of unfortunate circumstances coinciding, the way they often do in history. There are real reasons for this seeming coincidence, relating to entropy and the macro-scale behavior of interacting systems. Were Glenn not utterly ignorant of history, he'd have some idea why this happens and why "small government" always without exception proves to make the problem worse. This is as close to a law of physics as you'll ever get in human social behavior.

Surely, Glenn does not think the government raised one key interest rate that affects bank liquidity just out of greed or misguided policy. Back in the real world, most people who know anything wonder why the Fed didn't do it sooner.
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Glennfs wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:36 am You mean like the border crisis
You mean like the deficit crisis
You mean like the inflation crisis
You mean like the exploding interest rates

You mean those facts?
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Let’s be clear: this post shows that Glenn is just using whatever he can against Biden. He doesn’t believe any of it, he just repeats Dear Leader’s talking points.
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The deficit has dropped each year since Biden took office.

If you want to lower inflation, you have to accept higher interest rates. Inflation, and subsequently interest rates, are an issue that most countries are dealing with.

Glen knows these thing. He's trolling. If he doesn't know them, but says it anyway, he's trolling.
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Glennfs is a moron and a troll, guys. Always has been.
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