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gounion wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:56 pm Sorry, we do know Cheney was a drinker. There was a coverup. That tells me that they were doing things that they didn't want to come out, so they didn't make him available until the next day when he'd slept it off.
Do you have any proof whatsoever or is that simply your opinion?
Personally I searched 3 different times and could find nothing that would suggest he had been drinking.
Is there anything to prove he was a heavy drinker. Or is that also jydtcan opinion
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:06 pm Do you have any proof whatsoever or is that simply your opinion?
Personally I searched 3 different times and could find nothing that would suggest he had been drinking.
Is there anything to prove he was a heavy drinker. Or is that also jydtcan opinion
He admitted himself to have been drinking. My dad used to say "two beers" when he could hardly stand. Yeah, two five-gallon beers.

To me, the most important proof is that he waited until the next day to talk to the cops. At least Baldwin immediately dealt with the cops. Which makes him a more upstanding citizen than Cheney.

You could say that's my opinion. But you can't call it a lie. No more than all that shit you say about the Clintons that you have no proof of.
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gounion wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:10 pm He admitted himself to have been drinking. My dad used to say "two beers" when he could hardly stand. Yeah, two five-gallon beers.

To me, the most important proof is that he waited until the next day to talk to the cops. At least Baldwin immediately dealt with the cops. Which makes him a more upstanding citizen than Cheney.

You could say that's my opinion. But you can't call it a lie. No more than all that shit you say about the Clintons that you have no proof of.
When you say been drinking you are lying because that infers multiple drinks. When it was one beer with lunch.
There is also no proof he had always been a heavy drinker. In fact after his 2nd dui one at age 21 one at age 22 he realized he was going down the wrong road and cleaned up his life.

So yes you are lying, here have another stone
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:16 pm When you say been drinking you are lying because that infers multiple drinks. When it was one beer with lunch.
There is also no proof he had always been a heavy drinker. In fact after his 2nd dui one at age 21 one at age 22 he realized he was going down the wrong road and cleaned up his life.

So yes you are lying, here have another stone
No lie at all. No more than all the shit you claim the Clintons did.

The reason I surmise multiple drinks is that Cheney covered things up and wouldn't talk to the authorities until the next day.

Big difference between Baldwin and Cheney is that Baldwin thought that he was dealing with a gun that had no bullets and was safe to do what he was doing with it. Cheney KNEW his gun was loaded and deadly, and ignored all rules of gun safety. We don't know if alcohol had anything to do with it because of the coverup. We know in Baldwin's case alcohol wasn't involved.
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gounion wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:19 pm No lie at all. No more than all the shit you claim the Clintons did.

The reason I surmise multiple drinks is that Cheney covered things up and wouldn't talk to the authorities until the next day.

Big difference between Baldwin and Cheney is that Baldwin thought that he was dealing with a gun that had no bullets and was safe to do what he was doing with it. Cheney KNEW his gun was loaded and deadly, and ignored all rules of gun safety. We don't know if alcohol had anything to do with it because of the coverup. We know in Baldwin's case alcohol wasn't involved.
Ok you are forcing me to do it. Probably your plan all along but here goes. Is your opinion about Ted's accident the same as your opinion about the Cheney accident?
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Tao Jones Sr. wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:58 pm He’d mention Ted Kennedy, but he can’t spell Chappaquiddick.
Like I said above, Teddy in 3, 2, 1.


Has dickhead come out against the traitor? His daughter has of course, but has the DRUNKEN shot gun shooter done it?
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:24 pm Ok you are forcing me to do it. Probably your plan all along but here goes. Is your opinion about Ted's accident the same as your opinion about the Cheney accident?
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:24 pm Ok you are forcing me to do it. Probably your plan all along but here goes. Is your opinion about Ted's accident the same as your opinion about the Cheney accident?
Probably worse. He WAS drinking and driving, which, of course, was quite acceptable at the time. He also waited until the next day.

But I do think it WAS an accident, a very sad one. Not a murder, not a pre-planned thing.

But of course, you think Cheney did nothing wrong, and was completely innocent, and it's all lies about him.

Let's be clear: Glenn always complains about us bringing up things from the past, but he's always going to do it.
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Again


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gounion wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:42 pm Probably worse. He WAS drinking and driving, which, of course, was quite acceptable at the time. He also waited until the next day.

But I do think it WAS an accident, a very sad one. Not a murder, not a pre-planned thing.

But of course, you think Cheney did nothing wrong, and was completely innocent, and it's all lies about him.

Let's be clear: Glenn always complains about us bringing up things from the past, but he's always going to do it.
What Cheney had was a hunting accident. What happened on the movie set was a gun accident. Essentially the exact same thing except Cheney was lucky enough not to kill his victim.
Have you considered that there might be a link between the gun being loaded and the labor dispute.
Not that they wanted or expected anyone to get shot. But, it was be a good protest directed at the man in charge.
A protest that went horribly wrong.
No matter the case somebody was negligent in loading that weapon. Regardless of intentions
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:52 pm What Cheney had was a hunting accident. What happened on the movie set was a gun accident. Essentially the exact same thing except Cheney was lucky enough not to kill his victim.
Have you considered that there might be a link between the gun being loaded and the labor dispute.
Not that they wanted or expected anyone to get shot. But, it was be a good protest directed at the man in charge.
A protest that went horribly wrong.
No matter the case somebody was negligent in loading that weapon. Regardless of intentions
No. NO WAY did a union person plant a loaded gun. Plus, they had already quit and left.

But that's like a conservative - anything they can ever do to blame a union, they do. No matter how much they stretch their credulity.

But how many "hunting accidents" involve alcohol?
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Not exactly the same thing. One occurred during rehearsal for a performance. The other occurred while attempting to kill things.
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:52 pm What Cheney had was a hunting accident. What happened on the movie set was a gun accident. Essentially the exact same thing except Cheney was lucky enough not to kill his victim.
Have you considered that there might be a link between the gun being loaded and the labor dispute.
Not that they wanted or expected anyone to get shot. But, it was be a good protest directed at the man in charge.
A protest that went horribly wrong.
No matter the case somebody was negligent in loading that weapon. Regardless of intentions
This wasn't essentially the exact same thing. Here's the differences:
Cheney was responsible for handling a loaded weapon (one he probably loaded himself).
Baldwin was handed a gun and was told it was a "cold gun" meaning not loaded.

Cheney violated basic hunting rules by not knowing what he was shooting at or where members of his hunting party were.
Baldwin was practicing with a "cold gun" as part of the rehearsal he pointed the gun where the camera was to film.

With Cheney, the sheriff wasn't notified of the shooting until an hour after the shooting and that was by the Secret Service.
With Baldwin, the crew called 911 immediately which notified not only medical emergency but the sheriff.

One thing they both have in common is they were both responsible for checking if their weapons were loaded and whether the safety, if each weapon had one, was on.
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What the republican party just did with redistricting in Texas confirms they are one of the most overtly racist parties on earth.

And just saw poll, SIXTY PERCENT of repubs say the election should be overturned and trump should be installed.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:30 pm Did anyone or any comedians or comedy sketch shows or any people here ever spoke fun at Dick Cheney when he shot that guy in the face.
You're asking this in response to a post that notes the death of a DP on the set.
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Libertas wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 5:47 pm What the republican party just did with redistricting in Texas confirms they are one of the most overtly racist parties on earth.

And just saw poll, SIXTY PERCENT of repubs say the election should be overturned and trump should be installed.
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'It's absolutely getting worse': Secretaries of state targeted by Trump election lies live in fear for their safety and are desperate for protection

(CNN) "I am a hunter -- and I think you should be hunted," a woman can be heard saying in a voicemail left for Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs in September. "You will never be safe in Arizona again."

Or there's the man who spit, "Die you bitch, die! Die you bitch, die!" repeatedly into the phone, in another of several dozen threatening and angry voicemails directed at the Democratic secretary of state and shared exclusively with CNN by her office.

https://us.cnn.com/2021/10/26/politics/ ... index.html
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Dear Iowa, The GOP are not your friends

Judge orders Devin Nunes’ family to disclose who’s paying for Iowa defamation lawsuit

A federal judge this week ordered Rep. Devin Nunes’ family members to disclose how they are paying for their defamation lawsuit against a reporter and magazine publisher over a 2018 story about their Iowa farm.

The judge will review the records detailing who is paying for the litigation behind closed doors before deciding whether to share them with lawyers for the reporter and publisher, meaning that there is a possibility that no one else — including those lawyers and their clients — will get to see the information.

https://www.sacbee.com/article255300271 ... rylink=cpy
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ap215 wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 7:44 am 'It's absolutely getting worse': Secretaries of state targeted by Trump election lies live in fear for their safety and are desperate for protection

(CNN) "I am a hunter -- and I think you should be hunted," a woman can be heard saying in a voicemail left for Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs in September. "You will never be safe in Arizona again."

Or there's the man who spit, "Die you bitch, die! Die you bitch, die!" repeatedly into the phone, in another of several dozen threatening and angry voicemails directed at the Democratic secretary of state and shared exclusively with CNN by her office.

https://us.cnn.com/2021/10/26/politics/ ... index.html
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It's an outlier poll Youngkin is another DeSantis don't vote for him Virginia

A new poll from Fox News shows a notable swing in the Virginia governor’s race.

Republican Glenn Youngkin leads Democrat Terry McAuliffe by eight points, 53-45. The last Fox poll had McAuliffe leading by 5 points, 51-46.

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/new-f ... -8-points/
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ap215 wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 11:52 am It's an outlier poll Youngkin is another DeSantis don't vote for him Virginia

A new poll from Fox News shows a notable swing in the Virginia governor’s race.

Republican Glenn Youngkin leads Democrat Terry McAuliffe by eight points, 53-45. The last Fox poll had McAuliffe leading by 5 points, 51-46.

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/new-f ... -8-points/
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ap215 wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 11:52 am It's an outlier poll Youngkin is another DeSantis don't vote for him Virginia

A new poll from Fox News shows a notable swing in the Virginia governor’s race.

Republican Glenn Youngkin leads Democrat Terry McAuliffe by eight points, 53-45. The last Fox poll had McAuliffe leading by 5 points, 51-46.

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/new-f ... -8-points/
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 4:11 pm The only poll I am going to believe is the one on election day.
Unless, of course, they say something you like. Then you're quick to brag about polling.
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carmenjonze wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 2:11 pm Another white-conservative fascist supported by white-conservative fascists.
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gounion wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 4:13 pm Unless, of course, they say something you like. Then you're quick to brag about polling.
You mean like a poll that shows the Republican up by 6 to 8 points.
I look at all polls with a jaundiced eye and using common sense.
For example the polls that show Biden's approval rating being historically low. Since all polls have him under water common sense tells us they must be correct
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