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Of course he does. And this is the leader f the Republican Party.

The New York Times @nytimes
Breaking News: Donald Trump formed a new company days before a fraud lawsuit was filed against him, a move that the New York attorney general questioned. The new company will be known as the Trump Organization II.

https://mobile.twitter.com/nytimes/stat ... 8248839168

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/13/nyre ... tw-nytimes


NY AG James @NewYorkStateAG
Since we filed our lawsuit, Donald Trump and the Trump Organization have continued to engage in fraudulent business practices.

Today, we are acting to immediately stop this ongoing fraud.

NY AG James @NewYorkStateAG
Trump doesn’t get to play by different rules. We’re asking a court to:

- Prevent the Trump Organization from moving assets to evade liability.

- Appoint an independent monitor to oversee any new financial disclosures made to banks and insurers to ensure they are not fraudulent.

NY AG James @NewYorkStateAG

We will not allow Donald Trump and the Trump Organization to continue this fraud or evade accountability.

No one is above the law.

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November will be massive civil unrest due to the cons refusing to certify elections they lose, unless their illegal voter suppression and gerrymandering allows them to win outright.

Only thing I dont know yet is will traitor be indicted, by who, and what will happen with that.

But I do think either the GOP by suppressing the vote of millions will win the House or they will refuse to certify if they lose and either way, it all goes to hell at that point.

What we need to realize is there is no line the current GOP and board cons wont cross; even if that means rounding up the actual patriots and eliminating them one way or another.
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He did the crimes; will he ever do the time?

House Jan. 6 committee subpoenas former President Donald Trump
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 488685002/

Maybe, finally.
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He won't testify, and the committee's authority ends when this Congress does. He will remain above the law, and millions of Americans will think that's just fine.
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ProfX wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 2:41 pm He did the crimes; will he ever do the time?

House Jan. 6 committee subpoenas former President Donald Trump
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 488685002/

Maybe, finally.
Here's the problem with the subpoena. The Committee ceases to exist at the end of the current Congressional session, that is, in January 2023. Trump's modis operendi is to delay so expect him to go to the courts and ask them to put an indefinite stay on his testifying. In order to do this, Trump will "judge shop" for one of his loyal appointees and he'll probably get it. I think the Committee should be ready for this and immediately appeal any stay orders to the next higher level including up to the Supreme Court citing the fact the Committee needs his testimony before is ceases business.
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ZoWie wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 2:53 pm He won't testify, and the committee's authority ends when this Congress does. He will remain above the law, and millions of Americans will think that's just fine.
I wonder if the current Congress can vote now to continue the Committee into the next Congressional session. I'm sure something similar to this has happened before.
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Number6 wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 2:58 pm I wonder if the current Congress can vote now to continue the Committee into the next Congressional session. I'm sure something similar to this has happened before.
That presents a problem. I don’t think one session of Congress can dictate to a future session of Congress.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:11 pm That presents a problem. I don’t think one session of Congress can dictate to a future session of Congress.
I think the House could vote to make the January 6th Committee as a "standing committee" which would means it could continue to serve in another Congressional session.
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Number6 wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:14 pm I think the House could vote to make the January 6th Committee as a "standing committee" which would means it could continue to serve in another Congressional session.
But the next House could also vote to revoke that designation couldn’t it?
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Libertas wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:10 pm November will be massive civil unrest due to the cons refusing to certify elections they lose, unless their illegal voter suppression and gerrymandering allows them to win outright.

Only thing I dont know yet is will traitor be indicted, by who, and what will happen with that.

But I do think either the GOP by suppressing the vote of millions will win the House or they will refuse to certify if they lose and either way, it all goes to hell at that point.

What we need to realize is there is no line the current GOP and board cons wont cross; even if that means rounding up the actual patriots and eliminating them one way or another.

Do you ever stop and think. On one hand you claim the gop won't certify elections they lose.
Then you turn around and claim the gop won't legitimately win. Essentially saying the exact same thing that the far right says and believes.
So how does that make you any different than them. Spoiler alert it doesn't. You are exactly the same as those who claim that Biden didn't win legitimately.
Exactly the same
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Georgia: Has a vigilante challenged your vote?

https://www.gregpalast.com/georgia-has- ... your-vote/

You’ve voted at the same polling place for years, did you know a provision in the Georgia Election Integrity Act (Senate Bill 202) allows your voter status to be challenged without merit?

In recent years, tens of thousands of Georgia voters vanished from voter rolls. In addition to “purges” by government agencies, new digital voter vigilantes are submitting similar, unsubstantiated requests to county election offices.

A closer look at these efforts suggests that many recent voter challenge efforts are targeted – seeking to remove young, Black, Asian American and/or voters from historically disenfranchised groups.

https://youtu.be/_UghUYo_Psg

Voter suppression by the right is rampant and documented fact.
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this is VOTER SUPPRESSION and you can STEAL Elections this way
In an unprecedented year so far for voting legislation, 19 states have enacted 33 laws that will make it harder for Americans to vote.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/ ... ember-2021

Between January 1 and December 7, at least 19 states passed 34 laws restricting access to voting. More than 440 bills with provisions that restrict voting access have been introduced in 49 states in the 2021 legislative sessions. These numbers are extraordinary: state legislatures enacted far more restrictive voting laws in 2021 than in any year since the Brennan Center began tracking voting legislation in 2011. More than a third of all restrictive voting laws enacted since then were passed this year. And in a new trend this year, legislators introduced bills to allow partisan actors footnote1_f5eefo91 to interfere with election processes or even reject election results entirely.
Why do you cons SUPPORT VOTER SUPPRESSION? Seriously? We KNOW why. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


And arent you sick of losing arguments yet? First there was the fact that the economy and market ALWAYS do better under Dems and now this! :lol:
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JoeMemphis wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:19 pm But the next House could also vote to revoke that designation couldn’t it?
If the republicans take control of the House they could but at what price? Stopping an investigation of the former president deeply involved in the insurrection would show them as being willing to do anything to protect one of their own while going after others for lesser reasons.
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Number6 wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 6:04 pm If the republicans take control of the House they could but at what price? Stopping an investigation of the former president deeply involved in the insurrection would show them as being willing to do anything to protect one of their own while going after others for lesser reasons.
Perhaps. House investigations rarely have much effect. It will be up to the DOJ after Jan if the House changes leadership. If the committee still exists it won't look the same and I suspect the investigation will broaden to other areas yet unexplored related to Jan 6. We shall see.
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If the House goes to the GOP, they will immediately shut down the investigation.

They will also start hearings to impeach President Biden and AG Garland.

That's what Joe Memphis is voting for.
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Number6 wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 2:58 pm I wonder if the current Congress can vote now to continue the Committee into the next Congressional session. I'm sure something similar to this has happened before.
No. Current congress can’t bind a future congress.
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Number6 wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:14 pm I think the House could vote to make the January 6th Committee as a "standing committee" which would means it could continue to serve in another Congressional session.
Still can’t bind a future congress. Under any circumstance.
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:31 pm Do you ever stop and think. On one hand you claim the gop won't certify elections they lose.
Then you turn around and claim the gop won't legitimately win. Essentially saying the exact same thing that the far right says and believes.
So how does that make you any different than them. Spoiler alert it doesn't. You are exactly the same as those who claim that Biden didn't win legitimately.
Exactly the same
I will make it easy for you.

The refusal of YOUR party to make a stand, to straight up repudiate Donald Trump is more than simple politics. We can make the observation based upon comments by RW pundits and politicians like McConnell that the sole concern of the party IS politics.

That being said it misses both the immediate and long term points.

What is the most crucial characteristic needed in the social construct known republican democracy?

Confidence. The entire structure hinges on confidence, belief, that the system is honest and uncorrupted. Sure, there have been a hand full, here and there, of voting fraud the details of which are not really of much interest. Thus the system worked and people confidently believed. Yes, there was the ridiculous intervention of the SCOTUS in Bush2’s first election along with Gore’s error, imo, in not demanding a recount in all of Florida. But again the belief still held as shown with Bush2’s second election and Obama’s two elections. Oh, there was some grumbling but nothing of importance.

Then…

Trump.

Yes, he was elected legally under the existing albeit archaic system established by the constitution. Then he actually lost. Then he claimed massive fraud. Then his followers, his lawyers, his sycophants followed with lawsuits, publicity stunts enlarged by Fox News, OAN and Breitbart.

Where was, where IS your party?

There are now likely millions of voters who no longer have confidence, no belief in the system unless their chosen candidate wins. Election deniers are being run by the Republican Party in multiple states for positions that have control over certification of what the founders established as the method wielding power to govern themselves. States controlled by Republicans are seriously looking at adopting legislation that would enable them to overturn results they don’t like.

The process is called delegitimization.

And it is extremely dangerous.

And in no way, shape or form does bothsiderism have any place in this.
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Bludogdem wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 8:14 pm No. Current congress can’t bind a future congress.
Bludogdem wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 8:16 pm
Still can’t bind a future congress. Under any circumstance.
Because you said so?

Because you hope it's true?

Link your sources, please.
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Bludogdem wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 8:14 pm No. Current congress can’t bind a future congress.
And yet, greengrass, there are standing committees such as Agriculture, Health and Human Services, and Education that do exactly that.
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Bludogdem wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 8:16 pm Still can’t bind a future congress. Under any circumstance.
And yet, greengrass, there are standing committees such as Agriculture, Health and Human Services, and Education that do exactly that.


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Number6 wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 12:34 pm And yet, greengrass, there are standing committees such as Agriculture, Health and Human Services, and Education that do exactly that.


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These creeps really think that just because they declare something to be true, that makes it actually true. :?
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carmenjonze wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 12:22 pm Because you said so?

Because you hope it's true?
Of course, Bluedogdem wouldn't lie would he? I'm sure greegrass will vouch for him.

Link your sources, please.
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Please don't hold your breath waiting for him. He's like glenn, always making a claim and rarely backs it up.
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Number6 wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 12:39 pm Of course, Bluedogdem wouldn't lie would he? I'm sure greegrass will vouch for him.
He is a psycho.
Please don't hold your breath waiting for him. He's like glenn, always making a claim and rarely backs it up.
Oh I'm not holding my breath on these conservative creeps.

Their refusal/inability to back up their own claims is their own problem. It infects that type of guy. :?
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carmenjonze wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 12:39 pm These creeps really think that just because they declare something to be true, that makes it actually true. :?
And when we call them out on it they go into a phony emotional meltdown taking offense that we, as mere mortals, would have the audacity to question what they say.
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