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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 4:29 pm 
They are first to bitch about "Not Wanting The Government Involved In Health Care", then want a Constitutional Amendment Banning Abortion (In other words doing exactly the opposite of what they say).

They believe Same-Sex Marriage is evil. Never mind their "Savior" never a word about Homosexuality, Homosexual Relationships or Homosexual Marriage.

Now, in the wake of terrorist attacks in Paris, these same self-serving, loud mouth, "God-Fearing" so-called "Christians" are saying that the U.S. should not take in any refugees from Syria.

RePuBliCon Governor are saying they will not accept Syrian Refugees (sorry RePugs, you can't do that).

THERE IS NO RELIGIOUS TEST IN THE UNITED STATES.

In the 1930's there were some very strict refugee quota's for Jews trying to get out of Europe....never mind about that though....this is America.

Where are all those so-called "Christian Values" these ass wipes like to beat us over the head with?

How many Parisians, after the attacks spoke out against limiting or ending allowing Syrian Refugees into France?

When will these "Christians" begin to practice the love they preach?


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In the 1930's there were some very strict refugee quota's for Jews trying to get out of Europe....


Yes: yes there were.

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Thanks to the Immigration Reform Act of 1924, passed by American eugenicists whose ideas helped inspire the Nazis, most of the Eastern European countries where Jews were trying to enter the country from, had greatly reduced entry quotas.

And then there's of course the SS St. Louis in 1938. Carrying European Jewish refugees, all of whom were denied entry in to the U.S., and only some being allowed to disembark -- in the Dominican Republic.
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php ... d=10005267

Half of the people on the ship, ended up dying in the Holocaust.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:26 pm 
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So-call them the Christian wrong.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:34 am 
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I consider them Old Testament Christians. There's a whole lot of OT blood, guts, and wrath in their rhetoric but very little of that turn the other cheek Jesus.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 11:09 am 
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But, of course, they read the Old Testament selectively, just as perhaps some people read the Quran. You can focus on messages of peace (they are there, mostly in the prophetic texts), or stick to the bloody bits; they both have them.

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That bit is from Isaiah 2:4, and it is outside the United Nations.

BTW, the Vedas are also full of a lot of violent passages, and still read today by Hindus, too. I could mention the Zend Avesta, but ... there aren't that many Zoroastrians anymore.

The Bhagavad-Gita's central theme is that Krishna should not hold back in slaughtering other family members.

The Quran says there should be no compulsion in religion ... I guess you can ignore that and focus on the violent bits. Or vice versa.

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True. If any republican chose to quote Jesus regarding Sermon on the Mount and love your neighbor as yourself verses, they wouldn't be able to get elected dog catcher in the deep south.

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The Talmud seems to more or less take the position that it is not the time of Joshua and the Amalekites or Canaanites anymore, so neither is it the time to go and slaughter the enemy (Joshua may be one of the most horrid books in this regard, but fortunately it also seems to be largely fictional). There are already condemnations of xenophobia in the Biblical books. Yhvh reminds David that no, it was not OK to send her husband Uriah to the front of the war to be killed, just because he was a Hittite and not an Israelite. People are supposed to welcome strangers ... as the Israelites were strangers in Egypt. And all those places where the Bible says people should be put to death (whether for ritual Canaanite prostitution or mixed fabric wearing) ... the Talmud basically makes the death penalty well nigh unusable, in a deliberate way, noting it should almost never be used ... today.

I think that tempers Jewish fundamentalism, as the ultra-Orthodox still abide by it. :mrgreen:

Many imams say that the conduct of Muhammad in war against the largely pagan, non-People of the Book, tribes of Arabia, as described in the Quran, during the early days of Islam, doesn't apply anymore to modern day Islam, which is no longer a small Arabian sect fighting for expansion while surrounded by hostile enemies. Most of the violent passages date from that time period; it seems the later ones, after Mohammed has retaken Mecca, aren't quite so violent and demanding.

There is an essential argument made for reading selectively, and it's historical and evolutionary.

As for Christianity itself, well, the New Testament is not without its problematics.

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/nt_list.html

Even it, if one is being honest, is not all sweetness & light toward the unbelievers, though one can argue whether many of those sayings were really by Jesus himself.

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