Hunter Biden Charged

[Bludogdem]

That’s the question and Weiss should explain the answer to oversight committee. There is conflicting accounts surrounding potential interference at different levels. Bottomline, tax evasion contains certain elements which distinguish it from “errors” people make on their tax returns. If those elements are present then Weiss should explain his decision process on why these were not charged as felonies. I know from personal experience that people have gone to jail for much less money.

If we are hiring all these IRS agents to go after middle class taxpayers maybe we should start listening to the experienced agents when they recommend charges on the wealthy and well connected. I don’t think Hunter should be granted an exception simply because he’s well connected. That’s no excuse for tax fraud.

If you read the whistleblower transcripts it’s difficult to think anything other than he coasted because he’s Joe Biden’s son.

[gounion]

If you read the whistleblower transcripts it’s difficult to think anything other than he coasted because he’s Joe Biden’s son.

“Whistleblower” is a fugitive the run. Funny how the GOP neglected to mention that.

[Drak]

Isn’t it funny how these conservatives push ops directly from Trump?

Baseless made up allegations. Fake whistle blowers dismissed from the FBI or on the run. These people are clowns.

[Bludogdem]

Oh?
Is it? I thought it was in the custody of the FBI. Did they release it?

https://www.vice.com/en/article/g5vgwm/ ... -weak-link

[gounion]

https://www.vice.com/en/article/g5vgwm/ ... -weak-link

So not from the actual laptop. Got it. Nothing that can be used in court as evidence/

[Bludogdem]

So not from the actual laptop. Got it. Nothing that can be used in court as evidence/

iCloud backup is the laptop and the iPhone. All Hunter all the time. Everything posted is from Hunter

[gounion]

iCloud backup is the laptop and the iPhone. All Hunter all the time. Everything posted is from Hunter

Allegedly. Can’t be proven in court. Again you’re grasping for staws.

[ProfX]

Interestingly, that is an article about how data backed up to iCloud can be hacked into.

An important security vulnerability and I hope one Apple is working on. I use iCloud backup and I sure don't want my secret recipe for Key Lime Pie getting out there.

So, yes, those particular data files are not from the FBI; they were obtained through hacking Hunter's data backups, which is itself a form of computer crime, and I suspect would not be admissible in court.

[JoeMemphis]

Interestingly, that is an article about how data backed up to iCloud can be hacked into.

An important security vulnerability and I hope one Apple is working on. I use iCloud backup and I sure don't want my secret recipe for Key Lime Pie getting out there.

So, yes, those particular data files are not from the FBI; they were obtained through hacking Hunter's data backups, which is itself a form of computer crime, and I suspect would not be admissible in court.

The FBI has the actual laptop and there are cloned copies of the drive in question. The FBI has the means to corroborate much of this data. So I wouldn’t just throw everything out quite so easily. There is a lot of electronic data that has security vulnerability. You simply take additional steps to verify the data. It’s why we have investigations. I would be curious exactly what investigatory steps the FBI and Treasury have performed on this information. They should be able to explain how they have investigated these matters and whether this case was or is being handled any differently than other such cases.

[Bludogdem]

Allegedly. Can’t be proven in court. Again you’re grasping for staws.

Doesn’t need to be proven in court. Simply proves Hunter stating he’s been paying joes bills for thirty years, and it isn’t a legal issue. It’s simply proof that that Joe makes it rain for family and friends and they pay his bills. Subtle form of corruption.

[Bludogdem]

Interestingly, that is an article about how data backed up to iCloud can be hacked into.

An important security vulnerability and I hope one Apple is working on. I use iCloud backup and I sure don't want my secret recipe for Key Lime Pie getting out there.

So, yes, those particular data files are not from the FBI; they were obtained through hacking Hunter's data backups, which is itself a form of computer crime, and I suspect would not be admissible in court.

The fbi verified the laptop was his. The fbi also obtained the iCloud backups. That is admissible in court.

[gounion]

The fbi verified the laptop was his. The fbi also obtained the iCloud backups. That is admissible in court.

A hacked icloud account isn't admissible, and shouldn't be considered reliable at all. You are insinuating the FBI has been corrupt in it's dealings with the laptop - but it was taken in 2019, while Bill Barr and the Trump FBI was running things. Are you saying Bill Barr was covering up for Hunter?

The other drives handed out have been tampered with. They are proof of nothing at all. Neither is a hacked icloud account.

The FBI doesn't have the authorization to release materials subpoenaed as part of a Grand Jury investigation.

You know all this, or maybe you aren't as smart as you pretend to be.

[Drak]

Hunter Biden’s laptop has passed through a ton of different hands and originated as a Rudy op. No it cannot be used in court.

Non stop Trump talking points.

[Bludogdem]

Oh?
Is it? I thought it was in the custody of the FBI. Did they release it?

Yes. To the IRS because the FBI found tax crimes.

If you actually read the transcript you find out that the FBI validated that it was Hunter’s laptop, in November of 2019, and that forensic analysis determined the unit and files had not been tampered with.

https://waysandmeans.house.gov/wp-conte ... dacted.pdf

Pretty much means it’s admissible in court.

[Bludogdem]

Interestingly, that is an article about how data backed up to iCloud can be hacked into.

An important security vulnerability and I hope one Apple is working on. I use iCloud backup and I sure don't want my secret recipe for Key Lime Pie getting out there.

So, yes, those particular data files are not from the FBI; they were obtained through hacking Hunter's data backups, which is itself a form of computer crime, and I suspect would not be admissible in court.

The IRS obtained a warrant for the ICloud files. So admissible in court.

[gounion]

Yes. To the IRS because the FBI found tax crimes.

If you actually read the transcript you find out that the FBI validated that it was Hunter’s laptop, in November of 2019, and that forensic analysis determined the unit and files had not been tampered with.

https://waysandmeans.house.gov/wp-conte ... dacted.pdf

Pretty much means it’s admissible in court.

Let's be clear: Statements from this transcript is NOT from the IRS OR the FBI. These are ALLEGATIONS, nothing more. The fact that the "Whistleblower" refused to cooperate with the Senate Finance Committee, which overseas the IRS, is quite telling. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 46365.html

The House Ways and Means Committee is controlled by crazy right-wing nutjobs and is not a reasonable investigative body at this time.

This testimony should not be taken as factual.

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[Drak]

Doesn’t need to be proven in court. Simply proves Hunter stating he’s been paying joes bills for thiSubtle form of corruption.

This is the same sock account who had nothing to say about the Trump’s many fraud scams - Trump university, charity scams, etc. Same account that defended Trump’s taxes and scams. Same account that repeats Trump’s lies about being entitled to classified documents. Same account that has said nothing about Trump refusing to divest from his businesses while in the WH. Same account that ignores the fact that Jared and Ivanka made 540 million while working in the WH. Made 2 billion from SA. Said nothing about Trump milking taxpayers to foot his massive golfing bills charging security and the SS at his own properties. Said nothing about Trump running a hotel out of DC where diplomats had to stay. But repeats Trump’s allegations about private citizen, Hunter Biden. Hilarious.

[Bludogdem]

Okay, have the contents from the FBI been released to the public? Yes or no?

Or is all the stuff in the press from the copies that have been through many different hands? And are the hacked icloud files identical to what the IRS has?

What’s in the transcript is from the Hunter Biden computer that is in government hands. And information provided under an IRS warrant from Hunter Biden’s iCloud account. It’s pretty common for government agencies to share when a crime is involved.

So do you think directing Burisma to pay his partnership and then him taking the money, saying it’s a loan, and paying absolutely no income tax on the Burisma money is tax evasion. If you bothered to read the transcript you’d also know Hunter’s partner Devin Archer repeatedly told him he had to amend his tax return and declare it as income. Hunter never did. So did he willfully commit tax evasion.

[gounion]

What’s in the transcript is from the Hunter Biden computer that is in government hands. And information provided under an IRS warrant from Hunter Biden’s iCloud account. It’s pretty common for government agencies to share when a crime is involved.

So do you think directing Burisma to pay his partnership and then him taking the money, saying it’s a loan, and paying absolutely no income tax on the Burisma money is tax evasion. If you bothered to read the transcript you’d also know Hunter’s partner Devin Archer repeatedly told him he had to amend his tax return and declare it as income. Hunter never did. So did he willfully commit tax evasion.

And, again, the tax has already been paid.

Funny how you're not as interested in Donald Trump's taxes as you are Hunter's.

[Drak]

I don’t really care about Hunter Biden. He’s a private citizen who doesn’t work for the WH and isn’t a politician. And he’s been charged.

What I do care about is the blatant ridiculous hypocrisy and real weaponization of government with fabricated actual witch hunts constantly carried out by the GOP. Instead of working for Americans, they put on circus shows and performances for Donald Trump and ramp up the low IQ base with utter bullshit. Just like Benghazi, her emails or Uranium One. It’s a waste of time and money, and it’s pretty sad seeing cons who post on this board fall for it. This is McCarthyism 2.0. I know it’s hard, but try to give yourselves more credit.

[gounion]

I don’t really care about Hunter Biden. He’s a private citizen who doesn’t work for the WH and isn’t a politician. And he’s been charged.

What I do care about is the blatant ridiculous hypocrisy and real weaponization of government with fabricated actual witch hunts constantly carried out by the GOP. Instead of working for Americans, they put on circus shows and performances for Donald Trump and ramp up the low IQ base with utter bullshit. Just like Benghazi, her emails or Uranium One. It’s a waste of time and money, and it’s pretty sad seeing cons who post on this board fall for it. This is McCarthyism 2.0. I know it’s hard, but try to give yourselves more credit.

EXACTLY! There is ZERO proof that Joe Biden has done ANYTHING wrong at all, and even if EVERYTHING they alleged about President Biden were TRUE, it's nothing compared to Donald Trump. It's all manufactured outrage to deflect from Trump, whom our three conservatives try to pretend doesn't exist.

[Glennfs]

EXACTLY! There is ZERO proof that Joe Biden has done ANYTHING wrong at all, and even if EVERYTHING they alleged about President Biden were TRUE, it's nothing compared to Donald Trump. It's all manufactured outrage to deflect from Trump, whom our three conservatives try to pretend doesn't exist.

Just because Trump is corrupt is no reason to excuse the behavior of others.
If Biden were a republican your opinion would be different.
If Sotomayor were a republican your opinion would be different.
Are you so partisan that you can't see how you have one standard for democrats and a different standard for Republicans.

[gounion]

Just because Trump is corrupt is no reason to excuse the behavior of others.
If Biden were a republican your opinion would be different.
If Sotomayor were a republican your opinion would be different.
Are you so partisan that you can't see how you have one standard for democrats and a different standard for Republicans.

You have no standards for Republicans. They can be corrupt as hell and you’ll still vote for them.

Hunter Biden isn’t a politician or a government official.

What about the 2 billion payoff to Jared Kushner?

[Glennfs]

You have no standards for Republicans. They can be corrupt as hell and you’ll still vote for them.

Hunter Biden isn’t a politician or a government official.

What about the 2 billion payoff to Jared Kushner?

Again because the Trump crime family git 2 billion you think it is ok for the Biden crime family to receive millions.

Clarence Thomas sells a house for under 150k and you are ready to destroy him.
Sotomayor receives 3.7 million no problem. Move on nothing here to see.

[gounion]

Again because the Trump crime family git 2 billion you think it is ok for the Biden crime family to receive millions.

Clarence Thomas sells a house for under 150k and you are ready to lynch him.
Sotomayor receives 3.7 million no problem. Move on nothing here to see.

Fuck you I'm not wanting to "lynch" anyone.

Nice job using race. Just accuse us of wanting to "lynch" a black Republican. You're the one who says he needs to retire. I guess YOU are for "lynching" him too.

But you are for ANY corruption the right does, no matter what.