Tesla Graveyard?

[JoeMemphis]

[bold]It rings a bell. i've read something like that before.

The Government is advocating for clean energy. Like any tech. so far it's first expensive and then eventually the price comes down. Hell, solar chips costs were in the dollars when first produced. Now they can be had for pennies on the dollar.

As far as the China question, we have the resources here. They just cannot be strip mined like they do in China.

Which reminds me. Rumor has it there are some cities in China have become concerned about he lack of environmental controls where those solar panels are being produced. Apparently they're pissed of about safe drinking water or something like that. From what i remember they've even taken to demonstrating over it.

Hope is a good thing. There hasn't been a strategy yet that hasn't relied on hope.

I’m all for clean energy. Who isn’t? The question is how do we get there. How do we get there and still maintain our independence? So yeah, we have the resources but we can’t get to them or we can’t get to them cost effectively. So somebody is going to have to set some priorities. I doubt seriously we could do today what TVA did building Dams on the TN River. I doubt we could build another Hoover Dam. Getting environmental approval for those projects today would be next to impossible. And yet where would we be from an energy perspective without them.

Hope is a good thing all right. Being realistic is also a good strategy as well. There are trade offs with these projects. So how far are we willing to go to be “green”? Cause right now it’s just talk. Talk won’t mine those minerals.

[bradman]

I’m all for clean energy. Who isn’t? The question is how do we get there. How do we get there and still maintain our independence? So yeah, we have the resources but we can’t get to them or we can’t get to them cost effectively. So somebody is going to have to set some priorities. I doubt seriously we could do today what TVA did building Dams on the TN River. I doubt we could build another Hoover Dam. Getting environmental approval for those projects today would be next to impossible. And yet where would we be from an energy perspective without them.

Hope is a good thing all right. Being realistic is also a good strategy as well. There are trade offs with these projects. So how far are we willing to go to be “green”? Cause right now it’s just talk. Talk won’t mine those minerals.

Funny that. If ya wanted off my crew all you'd have to do is tell me the ways it couldn't be done. i know the negatives. Now tell me ways it can be done. Anything less and ya found yourself back at the shop cleaning up for the rest of us.

[Glennfs]

Funny that. If ya wanted off my crew all you'd have to do is tell me the ways it couldn't be done. i know the negatives. Now tell me ways it can be done. Anything less and ya found yourself back at the shop cleaning up for the rest of us.

I would begon with a true hybrid that had an 1100cc air cooled engine to charge the battery when the vehicle was running.
Something that only ran the generator or alternator and got over 50mpg.

[JoeMemphis]

Funny that. If ya wanted off my crew all you'd have to do is tell me the ways it couldn't be done. i know the negatives. Now tell me ways it can be done. Anything less and ya found yourself back at the shop cleaning up for the rest of us.

I would expect somebody I work for to have a realistic plan. That would be why he/she is in charge. I also know the negatives. And talk is cheap.

If it’s your money then you can invest in however you choose. But if it’s someone’s else’s money, you need a plan. A realistic plan that overcomes all those negatives you don’t want to hear about. There are tons of folks out there with ideas and no resources. They are working as baristas at Starbucks fetching coffee for the rest of us.

[ZoWie]

Or sitting at home writing spec screenplays.

[bradman]

I would expect somebody I work for to have a realistic plan. That would be why he/she is in charge. I also know the negatives. And talk is cheap.

If it’s your money then you can invest in however you choose. But if it’s someone’s else’s money, you need a plan. A realistic plan that overcomes all those negatives you don’t want to hear about. There are tons of folks out there with ideas and no resources. They are working as baristas at Starbucks fetching coffee for the rest of us.

[bold]Is that like not wanting to hear anything about why they are coming here?

You mean the conservatives realistic plan that treats a symptom but not the disease? Doesn't sound much like a strategy to me.

[bradman]

I would begon with a true hybrid that had an 1100cc air cooled engine to charge the battery when the vehicle was running.
Something that only ran the generator or alternator and got over 50mpg.

i always wondered on that. If i had to rely on a e vehicle i'd be packing my 1500 Honda generator. Might be a slow charge but in a pinch it'd be better than nothing.

[JoeMemphis]

[bold]Is that like not wanting to hear anything about why they are coming here?

You mean the conservatives realistic plan that treats a symptom but not the disease? Doesn't sound much like a strategy to me.

I understand why they are coming here. Our POTUS all but invited them here. I get that’s not what you guys want to hear. The laws haven’t changed. We’ve had poverty south of the border for decades. We’ve had bad actors down there for decades. We’ve had corruption, drugs, gangs, cartels down there for decades. So what changed? We went from POTUS who gave a shit about borders and border security and immigration law to a POTUS who simply doesn’t care. Now I get that’s not what a lot of you folks want to hear but 70 to 80 percent of the electorate get it.

The disease in my view is ignoring the process we have to change law and ignoring those laws you don’t like. That brings nothing but anarchy and erodes confidence in government. How about we pay a bit of attention to that?

Lastly the whole treating symptoms and not the disease line is a little rich don’t you think. Since when is purposely making a problem exponentially worse a good strategy? Since when is ignoring your oath and the law a good strategy?