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Not only do these GOP scumbags should go to prison but the criminal justice system needs a complete overhaul so these clowns can't weasel their way out from escaping prison time.

Nadler says he learned of Roger Stone’s alleged death threat on the news

A Democratic target of Roger Stone’s alleged death threats against lawmakers said he first learned of the episode from media reports.

Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) said he has been in discussions with the U.S. Capitol Police and the FBI, both of which he says are conducting investigations into the alleged threats.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4414 ... -the-news/
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How long was Sec Adler off the job before President Biden was informed?
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:09 pm How long was Sec Adler off the job before President Biden was informed?
What does this have to do with the thread? Are you just defending Dear Leader and his minions again by deflecting for them?

Do you have ANYTHING to say about Trump's closest associate threatening assassinations?
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gounion wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 6:07 pm What does this have to do with the thread? Are you just defending Dear Leader and his minions again by deflecting for them?

Do you have ANYTHING to say about Trump's closest associate threatening assassinations?
No I am making a comparison between the two situations.
So which is worse the president not being informed about Sec Adler. Or the Senator learning about threats on the news.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 10:05 pm No I am making a comparison between the two situations.
So which is worse the president not being informed about Sec Adler. Or the Senator learning about threats on the news.
Bullshit. Just more deflection for Dear Leader.
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gounion wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:15 am Bullshit. Just more deflection for Dear Leader.
Dear leader again
What happened to the guy who used to be able to put across an argument that was hard to best.
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Glennfs wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 1:59 pm Dear leader again
What happened to the guy who used to be able to put across an argument that was hard to best.
That's what I'm doing now - notice you're not actually rebutting this argument.
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gounion wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:12 pm That's what I'm doing now - notice you're not actually rebutting this argument.
There is nothing to rebut. You keep making a fool of yourself with the dear leader stuff.
I am surprised none of your friends here haven't PMd you and let you know just how stupid you look.
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Glennfs wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 10:00 pm There is nothing to rebut. You keep making a fool of yourself with the dear leader stuff.
I am surprised none of your friends here haven't PMd you and let you know just how stupid you look.
Nope, they haven't.

Because they know what I'm saying is the truth - you never can actually say anything BAD about Trump. You ALWAYS run her to defend him. You defend all of his followers.

You can't say "Yep, Tim Scott is wrong to endorse Donald Trump, and I can't support that". You defend everyone that are Trumpers.
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gounion wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 10:10 pm Nope, they haven't.

Because they know what I'm saying is the truth - you never can actually say anything BAD about Trump. You ALWAYS run her to defend him. You defend all of his followers.

You can't say "Yep, Tim Scott is wrong to endorse Donald Trump, and I can't support that". You defend everyone that are Trumpers.
Scott made a calculated political move that he believes will help his future WH plans.
OMG stop the presses.
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Glennfs wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 10:52 pm Scott made a calculated political move that he believes will help his future WH plans.
OMG stop the presses.
Yep, you support the Trumpers, and you support Trump.
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gounion wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:39 am Yep, you support the Trumpers, and you support Trump.
Let's apply that same standard to you and liberals.
Beginning with the antisemitic lawmakers in your caucus.
The socialist running unions both current and past. Especially those who are honored after their death with monuments.
Let's not forget about Bernie Sanders who admits to being a socialist.
You want to tell me that you don't admire Eugene Debbs.

So no you can support people like Senator Scott and not be a Trumper
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:38 am Let's apply that same standard to you and liberals.
Beginning with the antisemitic lawmakers in your caucus.
The socialist running unions both current and past. Especially those who are honored after their death with monuments.
Let's not forget about Bernie Sanders who admits to being a socialist.
You want to tell me that you don't admire Eugene Debbs.

So no you can support people like Senator Scott and not be a Trumper
Debs? Now that's going way back. :lol:

i thank Debs for getting the ball rolling. Gompers was quite the Union leader. John Lewis on the other hand was the one to start setting a standard....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_L._Lewis
Coal miners worldwide were sympathetic to socialism, and in the 1920s, Communists systematically tried to seize control of UMWA locals. William Z. Foster, the Communist leader, opposed dual unions in favor of organizing within the UMWA. The radicals were most successful in the bituminous (soft) coal regions of the Midwest, where they used local organizing drives to gain control of locals, sought a national labor political party, and demanded federal nationalization of the industry. Lewis, committed to cooperation among labor, management, and government, took tight control of the union.[6]

He placed the once-autonomous districts under centralized receivership, packed the union bureaucracy with men directly beholden to him, and used UMWA conventions and publications to discredit his critics. The fight was bitter but Lewis used armed force, red-baiting, and ballot-box stuffing and, in 1928, expelled the leftists. As Hudson (1952) shows, they started a separate union, the National Miners' Union. In Southern Illinois, amidst widespread violence, the Progressive Mine Workers of America challenged Lewis but were beaten back.[7] After 1935, Lewis invited the radical organizers to work for his CIO organizing drives, and they soon gained powerful positions in CIO unions, including auto workers and electrical workers.

Lewis was often denounced as a despotic leader. He repeatedly expelled his political rivals from the UMWA, including John Walker, John Brophy, Alexander Howat and Adolph Germer. Communists in District 26 (Nova Scotia), including Canadian labor legend J. B. McLachlan, were banned from running for the union executive after a strike in 1923. McLachlan described him as "a traitor" to the working class.[8] Lewis nonetheless commanded great loyalty from many of his followers, even those he had exiled in the past.
Did you notice the part in bold? The Commies may have been heavily involved at the start but were kicked out in the end. Like the dues paying conservatives we deal with, we may have dues paying Commies still today, but that's none of our business. Do your job, pay your dues and everything will be just fine.

If you read the history of the Unions here in Mn. you will find the taconite mines to be some of the first Unions in the nation that formed. The first leaders were Communist leaning. But by the time HHH (a strong union man,) was done with the Commies.......

https://racketmn.com/how-hubert-h-humph ... socialists
How Hubert H. Humphrey Purged the DFL of Socialists
A year later, in 1948, the ambitious Mayor Humphrey made it his mission to take one of Minnesota’s Senate seats back from the Republicans. But first, he had to get through his own party’s left flank. Humphrey activated his liberal anticommunist organization, Americans for Democratic Action, to red-bait radical Minnesotans out of political life. As a leaflet from Humphrey’s faction posed: “Will the D-F-L party of Minnesota be a clean, honest, decent, progressive party? Or will it be a Communist-front organization?”
Seems the dues paying conservatives have been more welcome than the Commies, eh? (The L in DFL stands for Labor)

We took care of the commies somewhat the same way we did the racists. Booted theirs asses out we did. :mrgreen:
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bradman wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 9:37 am Debs? Now that's going way back. :lol:

i thank Debs for getting the ball rolling. Gompers was quite the Union leader. John Lewis on the other hand was the one to start setting a standard....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_L._Lewis


Did you notice the part in bold? The Commies may have been heavily involved at the start but were kicked out in the end. Like the dues paying conservatives we deal with, we may have dues paying Commies still today, but that's none of our business. Do your job, pay your dues and everything will be just fine.

If you read the history of the Unions here in Mn. you will find the taconite mines to be some of the first Unions in the nation that formed. The first leaders were Communist leaning. But by the time HHH (a strong union man,) was done with the Commies.......

https://racketmn.com/how-hubert-h-humph ... socialists
How Hubert H. Humphrey Purged the DFL of Socialists


Seems the dues paying conservatives have been more welcome than the Commies, eh? (The L in DFL stands for Labor)

We took care of the commies somewhat the same way we did the racists. Booted theirs asses out we did. :mrgreen:
I think it has gone commies to organized crime to socialist.
With today's movement about 65pct politics 35pct labor. With that only because they need to provide members with some services in order to get the funds they need to finance their political goals.
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:41 am I think it has gone commies to organized crime to socialist.
With today's movement about 65pct politics 35pct labor. With that only because they need to provide members with some services in order to get the funds they need to finance their political goals.
Glenn, you know nothing about today's unions. Idiot.
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gounion wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:01 pm Glenn, you know nothing about today's unions. Idiot.
They are nothing more than a political arm of the extreme liberal wing of the democratic party.
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Glennfs wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:12 pm They are nothing more than a political arm of the extreme liberal wing of the democratic party.
Not true. I have inside info, and I know it's not true. I was in some of those meetings.
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gounion wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:26 pm Not true. I have inside info, and I know it's not true. I was in some of those meetings.
If they weren't then in the primary they would endorse a republican and a Democrat.

Which your union once did but of course it was acguy that had no chance
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Glennfs wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:30 pm If they weren't then in the primary they would endorse a republican and a Democrat.

Which your union once did but of course it was acguy that had no chance
It was someone that came and had the guts to speak to us.

But we put the candidates up to a vote of our membership. And, the truth is, we aren't an arm of the party. We are on the outside. We will also work with Republicans. Happened a lot in the past, not so much anymore, since Republicans want to destroy unions.

But that reality doesn't fit with your talking points.
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:41 am I think it has gone commies to organized crime to socialist.
With today's movement about 65pct politics 35pct labor. With that only because they need to provide members with some services in order to get the funds they need to finance their political goals.
[bold] There's some truth to that.
I think it has gone commies
Enemies make strange bedfellows. We didn't have the numbers in the beginning, let alone the power, to take on Capital. The Wobblies were of great help getting our project off the ground.
to organized crime


Would that be the organized crime like the Black Hand? Because that's when organized crime first showed up in the Unions. Problem was it's Capital that hired them to bust Unions before they could form. Hoffa just fought fire with fire both against the Black Hand, establishment police and National Guard[1] who were manipulated by the monied interests. We needed muscle at the time.
to socialist
Unions have always been progressive, Glenn. And here's where the mistake is made with the word Socialism. Did you notice this link i gave you?......

https://racketmn.com/how-hubert-h-humph ... socialists
How Hubert H. Humphrey Purged the DFL of Socialists

Why does it say Socialists instead of Communists? Why? Communism had two paths to world domination. One was through outright revolution when resources were available. In area's where they didn't have the resources they did their best to push/influence Socialist forms of government. Why did the Commies settle for Socialist governments? It was Marx and Lenin's mistake. They held a mistaken view that Socialism would inevitably lead to Communism. They were wrong. Not only didn't Socialism lead to Communism, Socialism (progressives) fixed some of the faults of Capitalism. Unions gave us working stiffs the representation we were never allowed.

So keep this in mind...
HHH quote:
“Will the D-F-L party of Minnesota be a clean, honest, decent, progressive party? Or will it be a Communist-front organization?”
Socialism has lost it's original definition. Nowadays it's just another word for progressive. That Socialism is still a scary word to some just means they are far behind the times.
“Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.”
[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludlow_Massacre
Ludlow Massacre
The Ludlow Massacre was a mass killing perpetrated by anti-striker militia during the Colorado Coalfield War. Soldiers from the Colorado National Guard and private guards employed by Colorado Fuel and Iron Company (CF&I) attacked a tent colony of roughly 1,200 striking coal miners and their families in Ludlow, Colorado, on April 20, 1914. Approximately 21 people, including miners' wives and children, were killed. John D. Rockefeller Jr., a part-owner of CF&I who had recently appeared before a United States congressional hearing on the strikes, was widely blamed for having orchestrated the massacre.[6][7]
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