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gounion wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2024 6:55 pm Anything to normalize Trump, eh?
No. Just saying that not being qualified for a job in the mind of one man doesn’t make any two people equal. It is simple logic so I don’t expect you to understand it.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2024 7:00 pm No. Just saying that not being qualified for a job in the mind of one man doesn’t make any two people equal. It is simple logic so I don’t expect you to understand it.
Oh, I understand the childish game you play. Pretending Biden and Trump are equal, while running away from what you keep doing over and over.
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gounion wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2024 7:15 pm Oh, I understand the childish game you play. Pretending Biden and Trump are equal, while running away from what you keep doing over and over.
Anything you can’t explain you call a game.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2024 7:16 pm Anything you can’t explain you call a game.
Everything you do on this board is a game. You’re too scared to actually stand for anything, or to say who and what you support and vote for. Gutless worm.
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gounion wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2024 7:17 pm Everything you do on this board is a game. You’re too scared to actually stand for anything, or to say who and what you support and vote for. Gutless worm.
More bullshit from a man who can’t explain his statements.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2024 7:20 pm More bullshit from a man who can’t explain his statements.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You never explain yours. You are too fucking gutless to even say who you vote for and defend your vote. I and my fellow liberals have no problem saying who and what we stand for, and why.
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gounion wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2024 7:22 pm :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You never explain yours. You are too fucking gutless to even say who you vote for and defend your vote. I and my fellow liberals have no problem saying who and what we stand for, and why.
We talk policy here I’ve been told. I have said before that I didn’t vote for Trump or Biden or Clinton and have given my reasons. You are just too stupid to remember.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2024 7:27 pm We talk policy here I’ve been told. I have said before that I didn’t vote for Trump or Biden or Clinton and have given my reasons. You are just too stupid to remember.
I remember how you won’t take most positions, you’re just “against” anything the left supports. You don’t have the courage to actually STAND for what you believe, or who you vote for.
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gounion wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2024 7:34 pm I remember how you won’t take most positions, you’re just “against” anything the left supports. You don’t have the courage to actually STAND for what you believe, or who you vote for.
I disagree. But you are welcome to your opinion. Matters not to me. I’m not as obsessed with what you think as you seem to be obsessed with what I think.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2024 7:36 pm I disagree. But you are welcome to your opinion. Matters not to me. I’m not as obsessed with what you think as you seem to be obsessed with what I think.
It’s simply what you do. For instance, you say “I support funding Ukraine”, but you have no problem with your elected officials refusing to vote to support Ukraine simply because Donald Trump ordered them not to. Joe Biden is doing everything he can to help Ukraine, but you don’t give a shit, you continue to support those who takes Trump’s orders NOT to vote to help Ukraine.
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gounion wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2024 7:40 pm It’s simply what you do. For instance, you say “I support funding Ukraine”, but you have no problem with your elected officials refusing to vote to support Ukraine simply because Donald Trump ordered them not to. Joe Biden is doing everything he can to help Ukraine, but you don’t give a shit, you continue to support those who takes Trump’s orders NOT to vote to help Ukraine.
I never said I agree with my elected representative on Ukraine. I stated quite clearly where I stood. A stance on policy. Clearly stated. I form my own opinions. I don’t always agree with politicians.

Lastly I don’t accept your representation of what anybody thinks. You lie so often about that kind of thing. You have no credibility. You don’t take stances. You just adopt whatever stances your political party takes. Do you have any thoughts of your own? Are you capable of thinking and reasoning for yourself?
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JoeMemphis wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:02 pm I never said I agree with my elected representative on Ukraine. I stated quite clearly where I stood. A stance on policy. Clearly stated. I form my own opinions. I don’t always agree with politicians.

Lastly I don’t accept your representation of what anybody thinks. You lie so often about that kind of thing. You have no credibility. You don’t take stances. You just adopt whatever stances your political party takes. Do you have any thoughts of your own? Are you capable of thinking and reasoning for yourself?
You say you don't agree - but you support and vote for them, no matter what they do. That tells me that you are a GOP and Trump supporter that will support WHATEVER they do.

And no, my stances are MINE and not my party's. I align with a party because for the most part, they align with me. But if, for instance, my party stook against the Ukraine, they'd be losing MY vote. I stand on my principles.

Your party has gone over the cliff and you don't care, you'll still support and vote for them.

Again, you had a good Senator on your side negotiate a border deal that Donald Trump blew up, refusing to let anyone vote on it. And you're fine with that - but now YOU own the border, not Biden. Then, you say you support Israel and Ukraine, but you don't mind that your Senators voted NO. You say you support NATO, but you don't mind that your representatives are now against NATO because Donald Trump told them to be. Doesn't bother you at all. There's NOTHING they can do that you won't support.

Sounds to me like you have zero principles.
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gounion wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:17 am You say you don't agree - but you support and vote for them, no matter what they do. That tells me that you are a GOP and Trump supporter that will support WHATEVER they do.

And no, my stances are MINE and not my party's. I align with a party because for the most part, they align with me. But if, for instance, my party stook against the Ukraine, they'd be losing MY vote. I stand on my principles.

Your party has gone over the cliff and you don't care, you'll still support and vote for them.

Again, you had a good Senator on your side negotiate a border deal that Donald Trump blew up, refusing to let anyone vote on it. And you're fine with that - but now YOU own the border, not Biden. Then, you say you support Israel and Ukraine, but you don't mind that your Senators voted NO. You say you support NATO, but you don't mind that your representatives are now against NATO because Donald Trump told them to be. Doesn't bother you at all. There's NOTHING they can do that you won't support.

Sounds to me like you have zero principles.
You vote for and endorse politicians who claim president Biden is supporting genocide

BTW are they lying when they say they
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:31 am You vote for and endorse politicians who claim president Biden is supporting genocide

BTW are they lying when they say they
Anything to defend Dear Leader.
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gounion wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:14 am Anything to defend Dear Leader.
So are they lying or are you afraid to answer the question because it exposes you.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:16 am So are they lying or are you afraid to answer the question because it exposes you.
Not lying at all. I won't be voting for them.

But YOU will be voting for Graham and Tim Scott - who both are Trump's biggest supporters. They vote how Trump tells them to - even if it's against Ukraine, Israel and NATO, right?
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gounion wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:17 am Not lying at all. I won't be voting for them.

But YOU will be voting for Graham and Tim Scott - who both are Trump's biggest supporters. They vote how Trump tells them to - even if it's against Ukraine, Israel and NATO, right?
You would vote for them if you lived in their districts or states.
Odd how you demand that Republicans are either lying or not but democrats can just be mistaken.

Do you even recognize your hypocrisy
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:20 am You would vote for them if you lived in their districts or states.
Odd how you demand that Republicans are either lying or not but democrats can just be mistaken.

Do you even recognize your hypocrisy
No, I wouldn't.

But you vote for Tim Scott, don't you?
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gounion wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:20 am No, I wouldn't.

But you vote for Tim Scott, don't you?
So you think the country would be better represented by Republicans in those seats.
And
I will absolutely vote for Senator Scott he is doing a great job for our state.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:23 am So you think the country would be better represented by Republicans in those seats.
And
I will absolutely vote for Senator Scott he is doing a great job for our state.
Tim Scott: “I LOVE YOU DONALD”

And Tim Scott voted AGAINST military aid to Israel.

check your own hypocrisy.
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gounion wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:17 am You say you don't agree - but you support and vote for them, no matter what they do. That tells me that you are a GOP and Trump supporter that will support WHATEVER they do.

And no, my stances are MINE and not my party's. I align with a party because for the most part, they align with me. But if, for instance, my party stook against the Ukraine, they'd be losing MY vote. I stand on my principles.

Your party has gone over the cliff and you don't care, you'll still support and vote for them.

Again, you had a good Senator on your side negotiate a border deal that Donald Trump blew up, refusing to let anyone vote on it. And you're fine with that - but now YOU own the border, not Biden. Then, you say you support Israel and Ukraine, but you don't mind that your Senators voted NO. You say you support NATO, but you don't mind that your representatives are now against NATO because Donald Trump told them to be. Doesn't bother you at all. There's NOTHING they can do that you won't support.

Sounds to me like you have zero principles.
You should speak to what you support and spend less time telling others what you think they do or do not support. You say I never take stances, but I do. You say I think whatever the GOP tells me to think and yet I often differ with them as well as Dems on a number of issues. So you clearly don’t have a handle on what I think. You just want to argue.

It is safe to say that, when push comes to shove, I tend to vote for the more conservative candidates. That doesn’t mean I agree with their every position on every issue. That may be the way it works in your world but it’s not the way it works in mine. I guess you have more of a cult like mentality than I do. I’m comfortable with people having different opinions and unlike you, I am not threatened by them. I’m a moderate conservative. That doesn’t mean I am going to vote the progressive ticket. If you are the model Democrat, then that’s not a club I want to join.

You spend more time promoting the politics of fear and division than any one human being I know. That’s all you talk about because that’s all you can run on. Not pro Biden, but anti Trump. Not what you’ve done or what you want to do but on fear of the other guy. Running scared.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 11:52 am You should speak to what you support and spend less time telling others what you think they do or do not support. You say I never take stances, but I do. You say I think whatever the GOP tells me to think and yet I often differ with them as well as Dems on a number of issues. So you clearly don’t have a handle on what I think. You just want to argue.

It is safe to say that, when push comes to shove, I tend to vote for the more conservative candidates. That doesn’t mean I agree with their every position on every issue. That may be the way it works in your world but it’s not the way it works in mine. I guess you have more of a cult like mentality than I do. I’m comfortable with people having different opinions and unlike you, I am not threatened by them. I’m a moderate conservative. That doesn’t mean I am going to vote the progressive ticket. If you are the model Democrat, then that’s not a club I want to join.

You spend more time promoting the politics of fear and division than any one human being I know. That’s all you talk about because that’s all you can run on. Not pro Biden, but anti Trump. Not what you’ve done or what you want to do but on fear of the other guy. Running scared.
As long as they do what Donald Trump tells them to do, you’ll vote for them.
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gounion wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 11:53 am As long as they do what Donald Trump tells them to do, you’ll vote for them.
What a well thought out response second only to well eff it then
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gounion wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 11:53 am As long as they do what Donald Trump tells them to do, you’ll vote for them.
And you will vote for the Dems no matter what they do. You are not a conservative. I get that. It doesn’t bother me. Why should it. What I don’t get is why you insist or demand that others agree with you and vote the way you do. Perhaps you should see a specialist about that. Not everybody in this world will agree with you. If you haven’t figured that out at your age then there is not much I or anyone else can do for you.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 11:58 am And you will vote for the Dems no matter what they do. You are not a conservative. I get that. It doesn’t bother me. Why should it. What I don’t get is why you insist or demand that others agree with you and vote the way you do. Perhaps you should see a specialist about that. Not everybody in this world will agree with you. If you haven’t figured that out at your age then there is not much I or anyone else can do for you.
No, I WON'T vote for dems no matter what. For instance, I won't vote for a dem that votes against gay rights. I won't vote for a dem that won't vote for women's rights. I won't vote for a dem that votes against helping Israel and the Ukraine.

But you'll vote for a Republican that does whatever Donald Trump tells them to do, no matter HOW much that's against the things you supposedly stand for.
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