TRUMP Jr at it again

[Glennfs]

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/17/hunter- ... cords.html

Oh wait this is Hunter' Biden but imagine your responses if the person involved last name were trump or bush or McConnell or from any influential Republican family.

[ProfX]

So he's been dodging taxes and fathered a child out of wedlock. We know about his drug and alcohol problems.

The guy has a lot of problems in his life. If he did crimes, he should pay the times, that's up to a court. If he has a daughter who has never seen her father, that's a shame.

I feel for his father. I'll say it out loud. I bet he feels at points he lost the wrong son, Beau. It's a shame.

What it has to do with his dad's presidency, dunno. Like focusing on Amy Carter or Billy Carter, I never get this laser focus on presidential family members.... if they stay out of public affairs. What does Hunter Biden think of political affairs? I have no idea, mostly because he seems to keep to himself. I think Don Jr. would have been easier to ignore if he kept his mouth shut, just my 2c. My problem with Jared and Ivanka is they were administration members, but without official titles. If they didn't want heat, they should have kept out of the kitchen.

[gounion]

Glenn, I knew it had to be fake when I saw your headline - because you always stand silent, no matter what Trump or his children do. Or any Republican.

But you sure do manufacture a lot of outrage over anyone on the left.

So, you want Hunter investigated. Why not Trump? Why do you want the investigations into Trump's business dealings shut down?

[Bludogdem]

“ People familiar with the investigation said prosecutors had examined emails between Mr. Biden, Mr. Archer and others about Burisma and other foreign business activity. Those emails were obtained by The New York Times from a cache of files that appears to have come from a laptop abandoned by Mr. Biden in a Delaware repair shop. The email and others in the cache were authenticated by people familiar with them and with the investigation.”

So it appears the New York Times has decided the laptop is Hunter’s and not a Russian disinformation trick.

“ Hunter Biden Paid Tax Bill, but Broad Federal Investigation Continues
The Justice Department inquiry into the business dealings of the president’s son has remained active, with a grand jury seeking information about payments from around the world.”

“ Hunter Biden told associates in recent months that he paid the federal taxes that had been the subject of Justice Department scrutiny. He told one associate that the tax liability was more than $1 million, and that he had to take out a loan to pay it off.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/p ... ation.html

[Drak]

Good thing Hunter Biden isn’t employed by the WH hauling in 640 mil. Now that would be a really big scandal.

Here’s what I’ve observed. Every time Hunter Biden come up in the news, it tends to be a distraction from something about to drop. Or it’s to distract from something else, like the fact that the GOP is desperately trying to pivot from their obvious past support of Putin.

As far as the NYT is concerned, Russian disinformation isn’t blatant, and is typically mixed in with facts. That’s how it works, and they know that. The NYT has lost a lot of credibility. And Maggie Habberman is well known for being shadow PR for Trump and the GOP.

[Number6]

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/17/hunter- ... cords.html

Oh wait this is Hunter' Biden but imagine your responses if the person involved last name were trump or bush or McConnell or from any influential Republican family.

If Hunter Biden has done anything illegal then he pay whatever penalty the law requires including fines and jail time. Whenever a conservative is caught glenn and his conservative cohorts come up with excuses of how it's always a political prosecution and never put the blame on the person who committed the crime.

[ProfX]

“ People familiar with the investigation said prosecutors had examined emails between Mr. Biden, Mr. Archer and others about Burisma and other foreign business activity. Those emails were obtained by The New York Times from a cache of files that appears to have come from a laptop abandoned by Mr. Biden in a Delaware repair shop. The email and others in the cache were authenticated by people familiar with them and with the investigation.”

So it appears the New York Times has decided the laptop is Hunter’s and not a Russian disinformation trick.

... seems to me this is the key issue.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biden–Ukr ... hard_drive

PolitiFact wrote in June 2021: "Over time, there has been less doubt that the laptop did in fact belong to Hunter Biden", concluding that the laptop "was real in the sense that it exists, but it didn't prove much", as the laptop did not show wrongdoing by Joe Biden as vice president with regard to Burisma.[67] PolitiFact states that it is possible that "copies of a laptop" were obtained, instead of the actual laptop.[67] PolitiFact states that the Daily Mail published nude photos of Hunter Biden from the laptop, as well as other content focused on Hunter Biden's drug use and legal issues, but notes that Hunter Biden had already publicized his own drug issues.[67]

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It may be Hunter's, but as with the HRC (so-called) "missing" emails, there's not really much there.

So it has nude photos of him, photos of his drug use... hope nobody ever gets a hold of other peoples' lost laptops, screw your privacy I guess ... the guy hasn't had a spotless life ... doesn't seem news to anybody, wonder why people think it's of more public interest than, say, oh I dunno, Justin Bieber's.

[gounion]

“ People familiar with the investigation said prosecutors had examined emails between Mr. Biden, Mr. Archer and others about Burisma and other foreign business activity. Those emails were obtained by The New York Times from a cache of files that appears to have come from a laptop abandoned by Mr. Biden in a Delaware repair shop. The email and others in the cache were authenticated by people familiar with them and with the investigation.”

So it appears the New York Times has decided the laptop is Hunter’s and not a Russian disinformation trick.

“ Hunter Biden Paid Tax Bill, but Broad Federal Investigation Continues
The Justice Department inquiry into the business dealings of the president’s son has remained active, with a grand jury seeking information about payments from around the world.”

“ Hunter Biden told associates in recent months that he paid the federal taxes that had been the subject of Justice Department scrutiny. He told one associate that the tax liability was more than $1 million, and that he had to take out a loan to pay it off.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/p ... ation.html

If you really knew the law like you pretend to, you'd know that since the chain of custody of the laptop is so murky, there's little to nothing from the laptop that could be admissible in a court of law.

But to you guys it's your generation's version of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, you believe in it no matter what. History repeats with you idiots.

[Number6]

If you really knew the law like you pretend to, you'd know that since the chain of custody of the laptop is so murky, there's little to nothing from the laptop that could be admissible in a court of law.

But to you guys it's your generation's version of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, you believe in it no matter what. History repeats with you idiots.

Chain of custody is a major point. Anything could have been added or deleted from the laptop and it wouldn't take a genius to do it and make it look like it was there all along.

[Bludogdem]

If you really knew the law like you pretend to, you'd know that since the chain of custody of the laptop is so murky, there's little to nothing from the laptop that could be admissible in a court of law.

But to you guys it's your generation's version of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, you believe in it no matter what. History repeats with you idiots.

“ The email and others in the cache were authenticated by people familiar with them and with the investigation.”

Admissible

[Bludogdem]

... seems to me this is the key issue.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biden–Ukr ... hard_drive

PolitiFact wrote in June 2021: "Over time, there has been less doubt that the laptop did in fact belong to Hunter Biden", concluding that the laptop "was real in the sense that it exists, but it didn't prove much", as the laptop did not show wrongdoing by Joe Biden as vice president with regard to Burisma.[67] PolitiFact states that it is possible that "copies of a laptop" were obtained, instead of the actual laptop.[67] PolitiFact states that the Daily Mail published nude photos of Hunter Biden from the laptop, as well as other content focused on Hunter Biden's drug use and legal issues, but notes that Hunter Biden had already publicized his own drug issues.[67]

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It may be Hunter's, but as with the HRC (so-called) "missing" emails, there's not really much there.

So it has nude photos of him, photos of his drug use... hope nobody ever gets a hold of other peoples' lost laptops, screw your privacy I guess ... the guy hasn't had a spotless life ... doesn't seem news to anybody, wonder why people think it's of more public interest than, say, oh I dunno, Justin Bieber's.

The Presidents denials about his presence at the meetings and the like identified in the emails are likely to be a small problem.

[gounion]

“ The email and others in the cache were authenticated by people familiar with them and with the investigation.”

Admissible

No. The court won't accept them. You can count on it.

It's funny with everything Trump has done and is doing, you're concerned about the President's son, when he has no involvement in government business.

What hypocrisy Green Grass.

[marindem01]

“ The email and others in the cache were authenticated by people familiar with them and with the investigation.”

Admissible

Emails are only admissible if they are found to be authentic. Copies of such emails are NOT admissible unless the original is available for verification purposes. "Authenticated by people familiar with them", means nothing court. Hearsay is NOT authentification. Only the person who sent the email and person who received the email are the persons are available authentification. Also 5th. Amendment against compulsary self-incrimination kicks in.

You making an assumption that cannot be proven. Courts determine admissibility Green, not you.

[marindem01]

The Presidents denials about his presence at the meetings and the like identified in the emails are likely to be a small problem.

First off, what office is Hunter Biden running for.

Second the emails/receipts in the Hunter Biden matter are NOT originals. Without the originals for authentification purposes, they would be deemed inadmissble.

[ProfX]

The Presidents denials about his presence at the meetings and the like identified in the emails are likely to be a small problem.

Plural?

I guess you're referring to this?

https://news.yahoo.com/independent-sour ... 01909.html

A 2015 email from Ukrainian businessman Vadym Pozharsky thanking Hunter Biden for “giving an opportunity to meet your father and spent [sic] some time together” is genuine, according to a person described in Politico Playbook as having “independent access” to Hunter’s emails. Pozharsky was an adviser to Burisma Holdings, the Ukrainian natural gas company on whose board Hunter Biden sat while his father was vice president.

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Did Joe ever deny meeting Pozharsky? Why would meeting Pozharsky have been illegal? Why is that a problem for Joe Biden, exactly?

Is there some other meeting you know about, either from these claimed emails, or your imagination?

[gounion]

The whole Hunter Biden thing is another GOP fever dream fantasy. There's no "there" there. Hunter Biden is a man with a troubled history, but that's not got anything to do with the President.

But Trump says it, every conservative in America believes it. Green Grass is just another dupe for Trump.

Now, if he was a Senior Advisor to the President of the United States, like Ivanka Trump was, and involved in corruption and graft in his father's Inauguration, like Ivanka and her brothers were, that might be a bit different.

But Green Grass don't give a shit about that. But when Trump screams "HUNTER BIDEN!" Green Grass listens.

[marindem01]

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/17/hunter- ... cords.html

Oh wait this is Hunter' Biden but imagine your responses if the person involved last name were trump or bush or McConnell or from any influential Republican family.

What office is HB running for Glenn?

Is this all you've got. Another in a long of HB conspiracy theories?

[Glennfs]

No. The court won't accept them. You can count on it.

It's funny with everything Trump has done and is doing, you're concerned about the President's son, when he has no involvement in government business.

What hypocrisy Green Grass.

But had it happened to a Republican family you and others would be singing a different tune in the court of public opinion.
Which is 100pct of my point for this thread

[Bludogdem]

But had it happened to a Republican family you and others would be singing a different tune in the court of public opinion.
Which is 100pct of my point for this thread

I just think it’s hilarious to see how stupid and gullible people were.

[Bludogdem]

Plural?

I guess you're referring to this?

https://news.yahoo.com/independent-sour ... 01909.html

A 2015 email from Ukrainian businessman Vadym Pozharsky thanking Hunter Biden for “giving an opportunity to meet your father and spent [sic] some time together” is genuine, according to a person described in Politico Playbook as having “independent access” to Hunter’s emails. Pozharsky was an adviser to Burisma Holdings, the Ukrainian natural gas company on whose board Hunter Biden sat while his father was vice president.

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Did Joe ever deny meeting Pozharsky? Why would meeting Pozharsky have been illegal? Why is that a problem for Joe Biden, exactly?

Is there some other meeting you know about, either from these claimed emails, or your imagination?

I think there was a Chinese business deal where there was a denial meeting with partners. Denial of 10% for the big guy.

Some might view that stuff as bad form.

[ProfX]

You're referring to this email, I take it.

[from my above source]
A second email from 2017 that reportedly outlines a deal between the Biden family and a now-defunct Chinese energy company is also real, the person said. That email, sent by Biden business partner James Gillar, includes the line “10 held by H for the big guy?” which Tony Bobulinski — Hunter Biden’s former business partner and a recipient on the email — said referred to Hunter holding a 10 percent stake in the deal for Joe Biden.
[end]

So, let's say the email is authentic and Bobulinski can be trusted. There never was a meeting, it was a question asked and not answered (i.e. it's not an affirmative statement, "yes, we will hold 10% for the big guy"), that arrangement wouldn't have been illegal, and that company is now defunct, in any case, as stated, and I don't believe that deal/arrangement was ever completely finalized. BTW, in May of 2017 (date of said email), Joe Biden was a private citizen. Again, assuming everything Bobulinski says is true, AND that resulted in an arrangement for Papa Joe (something we have no evidence of), it would not have been illegal.

What Joe Biden HAS said is he never did anything corrupt or illegal for his son in either Ukraine or China, and these emails, IF authentic, don't contradict that claim.

[gounion]

I just think it’s hilarious to see how stupid and gullible people were.

Well, YOU buy everything Trump says and parrot whatever he wants you to, so look in the mirror, Bub.

[gounion]

I think there was a Chinese business deal where there was a denial meeting with partners. Denial of 10% for the big guy.

Some might view that stuff as bad form.

The old "some say" argument.

If that's all you got, you got nothin'!

[Bludogdem]

The old "some say" argument.

If that's all you got, you got nothin'!

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-54553132

With the investigation of Hunter apparently bringing forth people authenticating claims there might be some meat on the bone.

[gounion]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-54553132

With the investigation of Hunter apparently bringing forth people authenticating claims there might be some meat on the bone.

Whatever Trump tells ya, ya believe.