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Glenn tells us this is a wonderful time to be black in America. I'm betting these Delaware women might disagree with him. It's called "traveling while black in Georgia".This is shameful:
Breathe, but not too heavy. Look, but do not appear guilty. Speak, but never answer back. These are the constant reminders of being Black In America. After playing three games in the hot southern heat, all the Delaware State women’s lacrosse team wanted to do was make it back to Delaware with ease. However, things went left when they got pulled over by Police in Georgia.

On April 20 at 10:31am, Tim Jones, black bus driver, was stopped by Police in Georgia. The officers claimed it was a traffic violation because buses are not permitted to drive in the left lane. The cops came on the bus to inform the students that they would be checking their luggage for any possible narcotics, such as marijuana, heroin, methane, and ketamine.

One of the officers said, “If there is anything in your luggage, we’re probably gonna find it….I’m not looking for a little marijuana, but I’m pretty sure you guys chaperones will probably be disappointed if we find it.” He then stated, “If there is something in there that is questionable, please tell me now because, guess what.. we’re not gonna be able to help. Trying to get the ladies to admit to ownership of the “imaginary” drugs, the officers told them they would go to prison, if they found something. The team told the officers they did not have any narcotics, but they were still skeptical and explained they still had to check their luggage.

The officers instructed Mr. Jones to open the bus trunk, as they proceeded to go through the ladies personal belongings. Everyone was confused as to why they were looking through the luggage, when there was no probable cause. The team members were in shock, as they witnessed the officers rambling through their bags. They brought the K-9 dog out to sniff their luggage. The cops began tossing underwear and other feminine products, in an attempt to locate narcotics.

Every time the students turned their heads, more officers appeared at the scene. The cops kept doubling, as they went from two to six officers. They checked bags for 20 minutes, then explained it was necessary, in case of child trafficking or drugs. The fact of the matter is the underlying racism the Delaware Women’s lacrosse team endured. The officers tried to get them to admit to having drugs, while there was none in their possession. The officers conducted an unlawful search because there was no probable cause. Majority of the team members had never experienced an encounter with the police, making this a traumatic incident for them.

Tim Jones, Pamella Jenkins, Saniya Craft, and Emily Campanelli all shared their opinions on the situation. Tim Jones states, “I felt that of course we were in Georgia, there’s some racial issues and there’s racial issues related. I really had a problem with them going through our stuff. There’s a bus full of females and it was invasive of them to go through personal items. It was more than what they said about being in the left lane because they brought dogs.”

Pamella Jenkins, head women’s lacrosse coach at DSU, ““When I saw the police come on the bus and then accuse us of having narcotics, I was reminded that living as black women in America, you are scrutinized when just trying to live. Unfortunately this is our reality daily and when they go low we must go high. I’m proud of how our team stayed calm and especially proud of Mica Lambert for asking the officer a thought-provoking question. It’s been a stressful few days, but our team handled that tense situation with the utmost class and respect.”

Saniya Craft, relative of Elijah McClain, asserts, “As a family member of Elijah McClain, I’ve realized what happens when police take advantage of their privilege and compromise their job. After seeing the police brutally murder my relative, I was petrified for what would happen to my teammates and I. As women of color, we are constantly facing adversity and this was an incident we had to overcome together.”

Emily Campanelli, senior lacrosse player, states, ““ I think the biggest surprise was seeing the dogs immediately pulled out regardless of what the citation was going to be. That shows the immediate effects of driving while black, especially through southern states and it makes you wonder how many people this happens to on a daily basis and how many people experience this worse than us. I truly believe that it was an illegal search and seizure because there was no probable cause to search the bags, there was no evidence or smell. He immediately saw a group of athletic girls teams and should have let us continue, but because the majority of the team are black women it was a different result. It is a sad day we had to encounter, but I’m glad everyone came outside.”

Despite the encounter the team members faced, they handled it with poise and remained strong. The Delaware Women’s Lacrosse Team truly embodies what it means to rise above racial disparity and keep composure in any given situation.
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In Googling the story, several Delaware-area news outlets have picked up the story, plus USA Today. Plus, the Governor and both Senators have made public complaints, as well as the President of the college. Delaware State is an HBCU - an Historically Black university.

What does Georgia have to say? Absolutely nothing. Total blackout both from the media and State Highway Patrol. I guess they're trying to get their cover story lined up. Maybe they need to get Trump's advice first.

Georgia needs to be shaken up. Go Stacey Abrams!
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There was no reason to stop the bus, these cops profiled for no other reason than to profile.

Of course the State of Alabama is silent on this, in their view the cops did nothing wrong.
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They give the race of everyone involved except the cops. Leaving me to believe that some not all of the policemen involved were also African American. But, disclosing that would take away from the story.

That being said the cops involved regardless of race need fired. The victims deserve a large cash reward via lawsuit.

Finally the victims did the correct thing. As I taught all my trainees and children you keep quiet say yes sir and no sir. Then if wronged deal with it later. With lawyers and the courts.
Doing that gives you the upper hand that the corrupt cops had previously.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 7:36 pm As I taught all my trainees and children you keep quiet say yes sir and no sir.
Yep, it’s a white-supremacist conservative white man.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 7:36 pm They give the race of everyone involved except the cops. Leaving me to believe that some not all of the policemen involved were also African American. But, disclosing that would take away from the story.

That being said the cops involved regardless of race need fired. The victims deserve a large cash reward via lawsuit.

Finally the victims did the correct thing. As I taught all my trainees and children you keep quiet say yes sir and no sir. Then if wronged deal with it later. With lawyers and the courts.
Doing that gives you the upper hand that the corrupt cops had previously.
Oh, Glenn....

Why are all your wounds always self-inflicted? All you had to do was click on the link and you would have seen the cops:

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Nope, they look to me like white-bread southern good old boys that might be going to the cross burning that night.

And they talked down to the women as if they were all drug addicts, they just knew it, and they'd go easier on them if they just admitted it.

And I disagree with you. Unlike you, I BELIEVE in the Constitution. We have RIGHTS in this country, and cops aren't civil masters. They work for US. We should not allow them to push us around. It's that simple.

It was nothing more than unreasonable search and seizure. And so what if they sue? The cops or the chief won't be paying - the taxpayer will. And if they're fired (which they probably won't be - the union will probably take it to arbitration - they'll have another job the next day.

No, Glenn, this is what's wrong with our sick system - and blacks shouldn't be kissing your feet because it's such a great world for them.
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Your beliefs that the students should have stood up for their rights is steeped in your white privilege as well as having never had to deal with law enforcement on a regular basis as we truckers.
On paper you are correct but, here in the real world you sir them to death. Then deal with the he situation later when they no longer have the upper hand.
Had those students followed your advice they would have gotten in trouble. Because they didn't they now have the upper hand. With the courts, the press and public opinion on their side.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 8:01 pm Your beliefs that the students should have stood up for their rights is steeped in your white privilege as well as having never had to deal with law enforcement on a regular basis as we truckers.
On paper you are correct but, here in the real world you sir them to death. Then deal with the he situation later when they no longer have the upper hand.
Had those students followed your advice they would have gotten in trouble. Because they didn't they now have the upper hand. With the courts, the press and public opinion on their side.
Yep - there IS no justice in America for blacks, and damned little for the rest of us. The cops piss all over the Constitution and you don't care, you just "go along to get along".

After all, that's easy for a privileged white man to do. The chances of you getting blown away are small.

So quick fucking telling us how wonderful the world is for black people. You yourself just admitted that's a lie.
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gounion wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 8:04 pm Yep - there IS no justice in America for blacks, and damned little for the rest of us. The cops piss all over the Constitution and you don't care, you just "go along to get along".

After all, that's easy for a privileged white man to do. The chances of you getting blown away are small.

So quick fucking telling us how wonderful the world is for black people. You yourself just admitted that's a lie.
No it's not perfect but your opinion that all cops hate blacks is wrong. Those cops who hassled those students would hassle a white person just as quickly.
As for the students in case you forgot they are college students. In today's world they have the same opportunities as my kids.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 8:01 pm … white privilege …
Your newfound use of this woke terminology is dishonest as everything else you write on the topic of race and discrimination.

You’re not even honest enough to acknowledge that your father (and you) are direct beneficiaries of white conservative racism as mandated law.

But you’ll use som mindless euphemism to insult this person who is supposed to be your friend.

But then, this is how conservative whites treat even other whites. :?
With the courts, the press and public opinion on their side.
Your approach is that of a white supremacist who demands subservience from Black people of every gender and most especially Black women.

You don’t care about them. God forbid any of these student-athletes are transgender.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 8:11 pm No it's not perfect but your opinion that all cops hate blacks is wrong. Those cops who hassled those students would hassle a white person just as quickly.
Glenn, you're in a hole, quit digging. You're the idiot who was sure those cops were black so that made it okay.

No, they were hassled BECAUSE they were a bus full of blacks. Nothing more. You know how many times I've driven across Georgia? Do you know how many time I've been stopped and searched? ZERO.

They were TARGETED by racist cops. Here's the video - this is how they talked down to them, they were sure they were all druggies. Just because of their skin color. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ImuT3J-oW4&t You know a bunch of white frat boy Lacrosse players wouldn't have gotten stopped at all.
As for the students in case you forgot they are college students. In today's world they have the same opportunities as my kids.
No, they won't. This right here proves they could get shot any time a cop stops them. And they'll spend their lives getting stopped - a lot.
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carmenjonze wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 8:15 pm Your newfound use of this woke terminology is dishonest as everything else you write on the topic of race and discrimination.

You’re not even honest enough to acknowledge that your father (and you) are direct beneficiaries of white conservative racism as mandated law.

But you’ll use som mindless euphemism to insult this person who is supposed to be your friend.

But then, this is how conservative whites treat even other whites. :?


Your approach is that of a white supremacist who demands subservience from Black people of every gender and most especially Black women.

You don’t care about them. God forbid any of these student-athletes are transgender.
I actually did say that my dad was able to get his job because of white privilege. Of course it was 1948ish and he still had to get the steam engineer license.
But it was 68 before black men could get in his field and the 70s before women.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 8:01 pm Your beliefs that the students should have stood up for their rights is steeped in your white privilege as well as having never had to deal with law enforcement on a regular basis as we truckers.
On paper you are correct but, here in the real world you sir them to death. Then deal with the he situation later when they no longer have the upper hand.
Had those students followed your advice they would have gotten in trouble. Because they didn't they now have the upper hand. With the courts, the press and public opinion on their side.
The very idea of ANY Black person sticking up for our rights is what has made you guys torch our neighborhoods, lynch our relatives, pistol whip people for trying to vote, and mass murder our little kids and little old ladies in church.

So I can see how this entire topic is upsetting for men like you.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 8:18 pm I actually did say that my dad was able to get his job because of white privilege. Of course it was 1948ish and he still had to get the steam engineer license.
But it was 68 before black men could get in his field and the 70s before women.
It’s not “white privilege.”

It’s racist, anti-Black, anti-minority policies and legal mandates.

Quit trying to soft-pedal white-conservative race discrimination with braindead euphemisms. It’s very obvious.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 8:18 pm I actually did say that my dad was able to get his job because of white privilege. Of course it was 1948ish and he still had to get the steam engineer license.
But it was 68 before black men could get in his field and the 70s before women.
Wow Glenn, every time I try to stand up for you in any way, you do this shit. Do you even listen to yourself and what you're saying tonight? Every sentence on this and the Delaware women thread are just brimming with white privilege and racist tropes (some of the cops were probably black, so the cops didn't stop them because of their race, for instance), and you don't even realize what you're saying, you're so blinded.

It's really embarrassing.
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carmenjonze wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 8:19 pm The very idea of ANY Black person sticking up for our rights is what has made you guys torch our neighborhoods, lynch our relatives, pistol whip people for trying to vote, and mass murder our little kids and little old ladies in church.

So I can see how this entire topic is upsetting for men like you.
It is not about black or white. It is about being stopped by a person with a badge and a gun.
The time to fight and stand up for your rights is later. While you are being detained your only objective is to get our of that situation as quickly as possible with as little damage as possible.
Later is when you fight. When you have the upper hand.
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gounion wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 8:22 pm Wow Glenn, every time I try to stand up for you in any way, you do this shit. Do you even listen to yourself and what you're saying tonight? Every sentence on this and the Delaware women thread are just brimming with white privilege and racist tropes (some of the cops were probably black, so the cops didn't stop them because of their race, for instance), and you don't even realize what you're saying, you're so blinded.

It's really embarrassing.
I figured they were because it was in the South and the article didn't mention the race of the cops.
As for the students I am going to make another assumption.
Academically they are probably top students. It had been my observation that kids who play secondary sports are usually top students.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 8:26 pm I figured they were because it was in the South and the article didn't mention the race of the cops.
As for the students I am going to make another assumption.
Academically they are probably top students. It had been my observation that kids who play secondary sports are usually top students.
Well those cops sure showed them that their top education and uppity ways don’t mean shit in Georgia, didn’t they? They treated them like drug runners just like they did every other black person they stopped.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 8:23 pm It is not about black or white.
You’re right about that, though you’re too ignorant and under-informed to understand why.

It’s about the cops and their historical mistreatment and murder of Black, Latino, Native American, targeted minorities.

You vote for it and think guys like George Floyd and so many others get what they deserve.

We’re all a bunch of criminals to conservative whites, who have buried yourselves up to your eyelids in Council of Conservative Citizens negro crime blog posts.
Later is when you fight.
No one with an interest in civil and civic rights takes political advice from whitesplaining men on the internet, who support anti-Black legislation and politicians like Ron DeCaskets, and has never lived anywhere on earth as the “minorities” your so quick to lecture. FOH.
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gounion wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 8:33 pm Well those cops sure showed them that their top education and uppity ways don’t mean shit in Georgia, didn’t they? They treated them like drug runners just like they did every other black person they stopped.
That’s all we are to these white cons. Except the handpicked favorites who allow themselves to be willing baseball bats for these creeps.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 8:23 pm Later is when you fight. When you have the upper hand.
Did blacks have the upper hand in Plessy v. Ferguson? Or Dred Scott v. Sanford?

I doubt that the current Supreme Court - every on the conservatives on this court are your heroes - would be finding in their favor. They're going to back the cops all the way.

That's why the right wanted to control the court, so it would stop backing those damned black people! Take things back to where they were in the fifties and before. THAT'S what the right wants.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 8:23 pm
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Glennfs wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 8:26 pm I figured they were because it was in the South and the article didn't mention the race of the cops.
This is white-nationalist propaganda based in the victimhood mentality that white cops are treated unfairly by the press.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 8:23 pm The time to fight and stand up for your rights is later.
First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

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Conservative whites assassinated him and so many others for peaceful, nonviolent protests.

We don’t need white-conservative political advice, we don’t need you stinking up the Dem party again with your antiabortion Jan. 6th voting bloc, and NO ONE needs to appease you guys’s violent anti-Black politics to secure our rights. They are the source of the problem.
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So, a local Sheriff made a statement on the stop. https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/video ... -team-bus/

So, they found a black Sheriff. But he lied and said no personal items were searched on the bus. He also said they had no idea black people were on the bus. The first is blatantly false. The second - the driver was black, and they well could have seen that he was black before the stop.

It's a cover up. And they don't care.
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