Ice are police.
It's a dead end and counter productive for Democrats to try to make an issue of getting rid of ICE. Get power back and out of Trumps hands, then do something about ICE.
But go at that using other issues. Democrats trying to get rid of ICE is one issue they can turn to their advantage over us and play the old law and order party theme. They can attack law and order, we can't.
There are more issues than there are hours in a day anyway. Choose the most productive and focus on them.
You said you liked Kamala Harris' ideas about ICE reform, Sam.
[from the interwebz of MSNBC]
“I think there's no question that we've got to critically reexamine ICE and its role and the way that it is being administered and the work it is doing,” Harris told MSNBC’s Kasie Hunt. “And we need to probably think about starting from scratch.”
Dunno, as I often say, people get hung up on methods vs. goals. The goal is to stop ICE's abuses. It could be done by abolition, and starting from scratch, although possibly also through reform, relocation, and restructuring of the agency.
I agree with you Kamala is suggesting the right approach. Critical re-examination. I personally don't see anything wrong not only for calling for it, but even also for running on it for November.
I'd be clear with dealing with the misinformation. Reforming ICE doesn't mean we want those nonsensically described "open borders" (never had them, never will), nor that, BTW, do we not want an agency that goes after people who are actual threats to society (rather than bogus ones).
I kinda think there are times where lots of things in government could be critically re-examined. Of course, as a liberal, my goal is to make them function more humanely, fairly, and justly, whereas I think conservatives, as with agencies like the CFPB, really basically have the goal of weakening them or making them go away. In that latter case, that seems to be what Trump and his toadies are trying to do.