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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 3:32 am 
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anyone serving in a war combat era upon discharge needs to get automatic VA 30%
simply for surviving and returning home.
Then, the VA can sort thru whatever
shit lie ahead for each of these people. you know, since they have NO records of them.

you dont have to read this whole saga, really, its sad and pathetic
and, the point Is made by this paragraph.

http://www.businessinsider.com/marine-f ... 014-1?op=1
What Happened To One Marine Who Fought In Fallujah When He Came Home
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But what seems impossible to her is that her son could survive some of the harshest combat since the Vietnam War and yet not survive his own homecoming and transition to civilian life. While he did his duty for the Marine Corps, both protecting the president personally and protecting his nation overseas, she feels the Corps did not protect him in the end. This is a belief echoed by psychiatrist Jonathan Shay and others who work with returning veterans. “When you put a gun in some kid’s hands and send him off to war,” he tells me during an interview, “you incur an infinite debt to him for what he has done to his soul.” Despite her anger with the Marines, Sandi Wold knew her son loved the camaraderie of the Corps, but she also understood the internal conflict it had caused him. Still, she had him buried in his dress blues, knowing that underneath them, on the right side of his chest, her son bore another tattoo, this one of praying hands with a banner reading only god can judge.

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anyone serving in a war combat era upon discharge needs to get automatic VA 30%
simply for surviving and returning home.
Then, the VA can sort thru whatever
shit lie ahead for each of these people. you know, since they have NO records of them.

you dont have to read this whole saga, really, its sad and pathetic
and, the point Is made by this paragraph.

http://www.businessinsider.com/marine-f ... 014-1?op=1
What Happened To One Marine Who Fought In Fallujah When He Came Home
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But what seems impossible to her is that her son could survive some of the harshest combat since the Vietnam War and yet not survive his own homecoming and transition to civilian life. While he did his duty for the Marine Corps, both protecting the president personally and protecting his nation overseas, she feels the Corps did not protect him in the end. This is a belief echoed by psychiatrist Jonathan Shay and others who work with returning veterans. “When you put a gun in some kid’s hands and send him off to war,” he tells me during an interview, “you incur an infinite debt to him for what he has done to his soul.” Despite her anger with the Marines, Sandi Wold knew her son loved the camaraderie of the Corps, but she also understood the internal conflict it had caused him. Still, she had him buried in his dress blues, knowing that underneath them, on the right side of his chest, her son bore another tattoo, this one of praying hands with a banner reading only god can judge.


Well stated regarding the debt we owe.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 7:40 pm 
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since i started this thread relating to screwing the vets vs the corps...im adding
this here.
we wont know how the vets get fucked til this happens.
surely this will they always do. no records for them.

while a simple Dr visit in one state is three times Less than another state
setting pricing would prevent Dr in one state from tripling cost of the Same office visit
in a diff state, but only when this is national.

fuck the grunts.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/won ... 253D74854/
Maryland’s plan to upend health care spending

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:42 pm 
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well this is One way to try and assuage your own guilt: give your evidence to tmz,
they will follow any thing. which in this case is not neccessarily a bad thing.

dont Ever wonder why ALL the records from these years are destroyed.
it surely was an order given.
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http://www.propublica.org/article/lost-to-history-missing-war-records-complicate-benefit-claims-by-veterans
Entire brigades deployed from 2003 to 2008 could not produce any field records, documents from the U.S. Army Center of Military History show.
The Pentagon was put on notice as early as 2005 that Army units weren't turning in records for storage to a central computer system created after a similar recordkeeping debacle in the 1990-91 Gulf War.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/nat ... story.html
Military investigating photos of Marines burning bodies in Fallujah in 2004--

The U.S. military is investigating photos that appear to depict Marines burning the bodies of dead Iraqi insurgents in the western Iraqi city of Fallujah in 2004, a Pentagon spokesman said Wednesday.

The photos were obtained by the gossip and entertainment Web site TMZ.com, which published some of them Wednesday. It said others were withheld because they are “just too gruesome.”

TMZ said on its Web site that it obtained 41 photos reportedly taken in Fallujah in 2004. It said more than a dozen bodies were shown in the photos, “and some are covered with flies and one is being eaten by a dog.” TMZ said it turned over all the photos to the Pentagon last week. Eight of the photos were published on the Web site Wednesday.

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while gates and his 'gate' tour the chat shows to hawk his 'book'...why doesnt
anyone ask him about this?
or is it just simply a sponsored talked meme for him to bash this pres while
having "i know nothing about this" recollection...for his boook.

http://www.propublica.org/article/lost- ... y-veterans
Lost to History: Missing War Records Complicate Benefit Claims by Iraq, Afghanistan Veterans


( the 22nd United States Secretary of Defense from 2006 to 2011. Gates served for 26 years in the Central Intelligence Agency and the National Security Council, and under President George H. W. Bush was Director of Central Intelligence.)

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any MSM on this? nope. dailyshow, which did a good seg showing the loop.

http://www.registercitizen.com/general- ... -documents
Yale lawsuit claims Vietnam vets suffering from PTSD were handed less than honorable discharges (documents)
Posted: 12/03/12, 12:00 AM EST |

NEW HAVEN -- Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder was not recognized as a medical condition until
1980, leaving behind some 80,000 Vietnam War era veterans, a lawsuit claims, that were
likely suffering from the ailment when they were incorrectly handed less than honorable
discharges from the armed forces decades ago.

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any MSM on this? nope. dailyshow, which did a good seg showing the loop.

http://www.registercitizen.com/general- ... -documents
Yale lawsuit claims Vietnam vets suffering from PTSD were handed less than honorable discharges (documents)
Posted: 12/03/12, 12:00 AM EST |

NEW HAVEN -- Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder was not recognized as a medical condition until
1980, leaving behind some 80,000 Vietnam War era veterans, a lawsuit claims, that were
likely suffering from the ailment when they were incorrectly handed less than honorable
discharges from the armed forces decades ago.

i met a female vet today and this near exact thing happened to her.
im shocked and she sure was to Finally realize she is not alone.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:53 am 
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i met a female vet today and this near exact thing happened to her.
im shocked and she sure was to Finally realize she is not alone.


Why anyone would join the military is beyond comprehension. Oh wait, destroy the economy, ship the jobs to China and basically force conscription on the young so they can actually get a job, then kick them to the curb when you're finished exploiting them. Win-win for the CONs - they get someone else to do their dirty work.


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luv the flaggy stuff n all but it would be Nice if some one of these, any one,
actually mentioned WHY, as opposed to making it sound like the vets are fucking crazy.
...well, theyre homeless cuz theyre crazy, ya know...we, we, we got stuff for'em.

no, you do not.
you let the banksters fuck them out of their homes sold to them by the same
banksters who would never lend on the manufacture home again
so when the soldier boy or gurl was over there killing people for you you
went ahead and took their lil home and Now you wanna rent it back to them
for $1500MIN a month with all the hedgefund stipulations you got!

lets be clear here: wallst fucked these people from their homes while they were
actively engaged in overseas combat for nefarious govmnt reasons, same as they
did during SliveradoSavingsLoan/KeatingFiveScandal/1989, when the west got littered
with HUD signs for every repo people lost During That Housing Debacle.
now they wanna make it sound like there is "help".
see, if these vets hadnt lost their places why theyd Have a Fucking Place to Live.

lets cut the chicken shit here and address the manufac housing "industry"
that has Decimated and Littered this country while ruining and destroying
all the families along with it.
there ya go. step to the plate and take that swing....#yafukinmoochers.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... s/4526343/
Nearly 50,000 Iraq and Afghanistan veterans were either homeless or in a federal program aimed at keeping them off the streets during 2013, almost triple the number in 2011, according to numbers released Thursday by the Department of Veterans Affairs. ...
....struggling with homeless issues has grown because the department has expanded efforts to identify and assist them. The department has programs throughout all 50 states, working with community groups to target homeless veterans, and as a consequence, a more accurate picture of the number of these veterans is emerging.
A lack of affordable housing has contributed to veteran homelessness, the VA says.

reeeeeellllly...theyll be glad to know you figured this out.
This week, the department announced it will continue to fund, at a record annual level of $300 million, a program that places a priority on finding immediate shelter for veterans or helping those at risk of homelessness to keep their homes.
and the manufac housing industry stands to gain More Money!!!
The program began with $60 million in 2011 and grew to $300 million in 2013. The department recently announced it was locking in funding at $300 million for each of 2014 and 2015.
yes it costs this much since BAC and CW fucked them all so well. gosh it was good.
the higher the cost the bigger the screw-the-veteran profits were! hoorah!

"Those who have served our nation should never find themselves on the streets, living without hope," VA Secretary Eric Shinseki said in announcing the funding.
reeellyyy....he means that.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:28 pm 
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fuck the vets. the ones we love and buy yellow magnets for.


http://www.thenation.com/blog/178574/se ... s-veterans
Senate Republicans Turn Their Backs on Veterans--

It’s hard to pinpoint the pinnacle of Republican depravity, but GOP senators came close Thursday afternoon when they blocked a bill extending healthcare, education and job training to hundreds of thousands of veterans, largely because they were unable to use the bill as a vehicle for new sanctions on Iran.

“Today, the Senate had a chance to put aside partisan politics and do what was right for the men and women who have sacrificed so much while wearing our nation’s uniform,” said Daniel Dellinger, commander of the National Legion, a prominent veterans organization with a conservative reputation. “I don’t know how anyone who voted ‘no’ today can look a veteran in the eye and justify that vote.”

Republicans used a procedural move to kill the legislation, which was the largest veterans bill in decades and had the support of all of the major veterans groups. The bill would have funded twenty-seven new clinics and medical centers, and made VA healthcare more accessible for veterans without service-related injuries. It would have strengthened dental, chiropractic, fertility and sexual trauma care. It would have extended a job training program and given veterans better access to higher education by making more of them eligible for in-state tuition. Spouses of deceased service members and families caring for wounded veterans would have received better support.

Unsurprisingly, Republicans said the $21 billion package was too expensive. ....
yess, but too big to fail was just ducky wasnt it. not once, but 3x.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:49 pm 
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I overhear active duty personnel on many bases in California discussing the things the Greedy Old Party are doing to them - and they are NOT voting republic-CON. The CONs have lost the women's vote, all minorities, seniors, and now the military is walking away. Don't think they can criminalize all those groups' votes with their discriminatory voter tactics.


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thursday maddow show brings forth a doco theyve compiled re the fucking irag war.
be sure to tune in.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 2:59 am 
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veterans need their own Reservations in this country.
a number of..groups...im hooked into are saying this.
i think its time.

vets would run them the same as the natives learned to run theirs.
too many vets on the roam, if they had a Rez to head to they wouldnt
be roaming like they are.

its the least goddamn thing that could be done for them all.
its not like the vets dont know how to build a fucking town.

i like this idea.

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AZ and a few other states now boast of 'getting vets into housing' since they no longer
bother the vets over WEED.

so...the WEED stood between having housing and not having housing. really. it did.
AZ and places decided it was not working out very well doing it their way.

btw...NYT article, approx spring 2010....stating the VAs new policy of NOT caring
about WEED any longer in the vets. once they dropped that shit the vets began
streaming in to the VA.

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RMS on msnbc...doco ...why we did it.

a doc on whyTF our mil was sent to irag.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:39 pm 
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tony blair will live in shame infamy.
.."its not about oil"...


i expect that LIE from rummi and the rest.
blair ...your ass got handed to you for currying up to these warmongers.
too bad 4U. shudda known better than dealing with these cut throat white bread
killing war mongers in it for the money.

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b666h had meetings with oil goons well in advance....naming refueling stations in the
desert after the big oil corps.

but hey, it wasnt about the oil.

no, it was about morality...you know, how shitty saddamn was to his peeple....
yeh, thats why they invaded...it was the people they cared about.


hmmm.....#fuckallyallfoodstamppeople.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 1:55 pm 
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fuck the mil.


http://crooksandliars.com/2014/02/break ... um=twitter
BREAKING: Patriotic GOP Blocks Veterans Benefits Bill!
According to ABC News, the bill would have “improved benefits for veterans, including better health
care and dental services provided by the VA. It also would have guaranteed post-9/11 veterans
access to in-state tuition rates at public colleges and universities in any state.”

@thenation Feb 28
It’s hard to pinpoint the pinnacle of Republican depravity, but GOP senators came close to it yesterday: http://thenat.in/1mJoDir


‏@IAVAPressRoom Feb 27
"Veterans are tired of being used as political chew toys" - @AP reports on today's vote, quoting
#IAVA. http://bit.ly/1cclumQ

Feb 27
GOP veterans bill excludes IVF coverage for veterans with severe genital wounds http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/2 ... 1393542424

Feb 27
All part of the Koch agenda: Republicans derail Senate vets bill http://www.politico.com/story/2014/02/v ... 04060.html

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TX and FLA ripping off the vets while using the money to help themselves.

http://www.stripes.com/news/veterans/ve ... cU.twitter
Veterans charity again under fire, charged with deceiving donors
By Jeremy Schwartz Austin (Texas) American-Statesman
March 21, 2014

AUSTIN, Texas — The Texas attorney general’s office has charged the Veterans Support Organization, a Florida-based charity that has come under fire in several states, with deceiving Texas donors by falsely telling them that their donations would help needy local veterans.

In a lawsuit filed this week in Travis County District Court, state prosecutors seek to seize funds raised by the group in Texas and bar the group from operating in the state. For several years, the group operated chapters in Austin, Dallas and Houston, sending veterans and nonveterans alike to stand outside supermarkets and other stores to raise money. According to the lawsuit, the group raised $2.5 million in the state between 2010 and 2012.

In February, the Austin American-Statesman published an investigation into the group, revealing that it gave less than 1 percent of the $7.1 million it raised from the public in 2011 for grants to needy veterans. Members of the Austin and Dallas chapters quit as a group in December after managers said they became aware of how much money the group was sending out of state.

“The funds weren’t going where they were supposed to be going,” former Austin chapter manager, Robin Woods, said. “What they were doing wasn’t right for Texas or for veterans.”

According to the lawsuit, solicitors told members of the public their donations would help needy local veterans. In reality, between 2010 and 2012 the group made grants of less than $57,000 to Texas veterans, or 2.2 percent of what it raised in the state during those years. State investigators think that more than 70 percent of what the group raised in Texas was sent to Rhode Island and Florida, where the group’s headquarters are. And although the group claimed it was helping at-risk veterans with a “work program,” state officials called it “nothing more than structured panhandling which they use to solicit funds.”
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Texas joins a growing list of states that have taken aim at the organization. State officials in South Carolina targeted the group for violating that state’s solicitation laws in September, banning it from the state for 15 years and fining it $5,000.

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if this is accurate i can see why VA is buried, and nonfunctional.

i was told someone called VA to ask some questions about a certain aspect.
the info given them stated they needed to enroll(which they were already)
files then needed to be sent/acquired and Then this person would get filtered
down thru all the clinics.
ALL the Clinics....in order to get the One aspect even remotely looked at.

thats like driving into town and Having to go thru Every store.

in order to get seen by the brace clinic you have to have gone thru ALL other clinics
and tests and appts and time and personnel and....yeh, that wont get shit done for the
untold 1000's and 10,000's who are waiting.

i guess thats what the ER is for. still.

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now we gonna send more US SOLDIERS of all flavors back over there to the never ending
hellish killing mosh pit AKA the ME....
meanwhile the USMIL hasnt had a decent fucking pay raise in YEARS.
the july COLA came in at.....0.1%.
theyre claiming prices, consumer prices....have gone down.
if someone could show us where thatd be swell. we'll wait.
we'll wait til AFTER we start Paying the rising food prices now seen daily.
cost of food rises 7%, lets see how little the Mil gets for COLA. hoo. rah.

suck it up you buttercup military personnel and families....you starve like those in the ME do.
hoorah. soon we're all living in tents too. or, again. countrywide/BAC.

congress bought by wallst does not give a shit as long as their 2nd home gets paid for by
Giftings...er griftings...all the FREE SHIT they get while the Mil lives on food stamps.

here the House of reds slipped in a PAY CUT for those under 62 without anyone in the public
really noticing, at xmas and all.
http://themilitarywallet.com/military-r ... cola-cuts/
Congress Cuts Military Retirement Pay
Updated: Feb. 18, 2014. President Obama signed a new bill into law that restores military retirement benefits for most military retirees and those currently serving. The new law grandfathers in military service members who were serving on or before December 31, 2013. Those who joined on or after January 1, 2014 will still receive the reduced military retirement benefits. Learn more in this article: Congress Restores Military Retirement Pay.

Updated: Jan. 14, 2014. The initial bill to cut military pay was passed by the House of Representatives in mid December 2013.

#yafukinmoochers
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1h
So we are sending aid to people who have been throwing rocks at each other for 5000 years, but we can't help our
own #veterans at home? #ISIL

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:59 am 
Come On You Big Strong Men, Uncle Sam Needs Your Help Again, Got himself In A Terrible Jam. Way Down There In Iraq.


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At lest we didn't have lunatic mccain in the white house - there would be nothing but a mushroom cloud where the earth used to reside.


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