Storming The Capital 2: A Counter Storm is Coming

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And Trump says we're to blame for Jan. 6 huh.

New Jan. 6 Footage Shows Capitol Rioter Threatening To 'Cut Their Head Off'

Newly released video from the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack shows a Texas man ranting about a “stolen” presidential election and calling for elected officials to be publicly killed.

“Cut their head off!” he yells at one point.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/capitol- ... a1b8451dd5
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ap215 wrote: Sun Feb 06, 2022 7:45 am In scrutinizing Trump, Jan. 6 panel adopts prosecution tactics

The House select committee scrutinizing the Jan. 6 assault on the Capitol is borrowing techniques from federal prosecutions, employing aggressive tactics typically used against mobsters and terrorists as it seeks to break through stonewalling from former President Donald Trump and his allies and develop evidence that could prompt a criminal case.

In what its members see as the best opportunity to hold Trump and his team accountable, the committee — which has no authority to pursue criminal charges — is using what powers it has in expansive ways in hopes of pressuring Attorney General Merrick Garland to use the Justice Department to investigate and prosecute them.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-wor ... n-tactics/
About fucking time.
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Concern that Garland isnt investigating trump is not over reacting and not ignoring that things take time, it is living in the real world.

Sounds like the committee has the same concern I have mentioned numerous times, they arent even sure if Garland is investigating him let alone for what.

PRESSURE is necessary from the committee and from US, this is why I bring it up ALL THE TIME, I write my House and Senate reps ALL THE TIME telling them they need to play a part in pressuring DOJ.

We all need to do that!

(I have also tried to find out if our reps, House and Senate, have now seen a fully unredacted Mueller report? I cant find the answer, because if it was yes, I would think there would be more talk about it.)

You know it used to not matter that the committee has no law enforcement role, past committees didnt worry about all of the witnesses refusing to acknowledge subpoenas. This is the GOP saying the law does not apply to them, it cant be clearer than that.

Also, does anybody know how many witnesses called by that fuck Ken Starr refused to acknowledge the subpoena and even show up and how many who did took the 5th on all the questions? I am guessing none or very few. FUCK OFF you cons... :twisted:
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THIS is the thinking that worries me, that there are those in OUR PARTY thinking like this...

Fuck you COMEY

https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1 ... GP430EqD4g

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that Biden should "consider" pardoning Trump.

"As part of healing the country ... I think Joe Biden is going to have at least think about that."
I know Comey is not a Democrat, but I am very worried that the powers to be right now in the D party are thinking more about HEALING than justice. God do I want to be wrong, and will gladly admit it. But I am going to assume that we need to pressure our reps so they can pressure DOJ.
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Libertas wrote: Sun Feb 06, 2022 2:23 pm THIS is the thinking that worries me, that there are those in OUR PARTY thinking like this...

Fuck you COMEY

https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1 ... GP430EqD4g




I know Comey is not a Democrat, but I am very worried that the powers to be right now in the D party are thinking more about HEALING than justice. God do I want to be wrong, and will gladly admit it. But I am going to assume that we need to pressure our reps so they can pressure DOJ.
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carmenjonze wrote: Sun Feb 06, 2022 2:58 pm MLK was right about white moderates.
I personally consider Comey to have a bigger ego than trump and do not trust him
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Glennfs wrote: Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:13 pm I personally consider Comey to have a bigger ego than trump and do not trust him
So you trust Trump. Got it.
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Glennfs wrote: Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:13 pm I personally consider Comey to have a bigger ego than trump and do not trust him
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I'm not a Comey fan. But Comey has a bigger ego than Trump? That is a front runner for dumbest comment I've seen on these boards. And it's the result of the poster being radicalized by the RW propaganda machine that now constantly vilifies law enforcement and the FBI.

Trump is a full on sociopath/narcissist who demands loyalty and constant praise. He also attempted to overthrow the United States government, because of his childish, sociopathic ego.

WTF are you smoking? Just another defense of Trump post.
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Drak wrote: Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:40 pm I'm not a Comey fan. But Comey has a bigger ego than Trump? That is a front runner for dumbest comment I've seen on these boards.
That's the truth. It's laughable, and says a lot about Glenn's true feelings about Trump.
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Drak wrote: Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:40 pm I'm not a Comey fan. But Comey has a bigger ego than Trump? That is a front runner for dumbest comment I've seen on these boards. And it's the result of the poster being radicalized by the RW propaganda machine that now constantly vilifies law enforcement and the FBI.

Trump is a full on sociopath/narcissist who demands loyalty and constant praise. He also attempted to overthrow the United States government, because of his childish, sociopathic ego.

WTF are you smoking? Just another defense of Trump post.
That comment tells us all we need to know about the cons understanding of trump.

He has no understanding of him at all. None. And that is why these board cons are so dangerous, they WILL stand by and do NOTHING when, not if, MAGA starts to kill or imprison us assuming they get the chance to do it.
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Glennfs wrote: Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:13 pm I personally consider Comey to have a bigger ego than trump and do not trust him
Conspiracy to Overthrow The U.S. Government.

Destruction of Government Documents.

Giving Classified Intelligence To Foreign Hostile Power.

These are just a few of the charges the Traitor should face.

But you defend and you support the Traitor.

Piss poor attempt to deflect away from the Traitor Glenn, but I'm not surprised
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Violent people choose violence.

FBI arrests Trump supporter who stormed Capitol while on bail for attempted murder - NBC News
Matthew Beddingfield, of North Carolina, was first identified by online sleuths two months after the Jan. 6 attack.

When he stormed the Capitol, Beddingfield was on bail for first-degree attempted murder in connection with the December 2019 shooting of a 17-year-old in a Walmart parking lot, when Beddingfield was 19. He was initially held on $1 million bail, but he secured pretrial release when bail was lowered to $100,000. After he stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6, Beddingfield pleaded guilty to a lesser charge in connection with the shooting. He was on probation in the shooting case when he was arrested Tuesday.

Video compiled with the help of online investigators shows Beddingfield at the front of the mob outside the Capitol, jabbing at the police line with his American flag, throwing a metal object at the police, and appearing to give a Nazi salute. By the time Beddingfield emerged from the Capitol, his father, Jason Beddingfield, like thousands of others, was on the restricted exterior grounds of the U.S. Capitol, but he is not facing charges as of Tuesday. The elder Beddingfield, who posted on Facebook on Jan. 6 about taking “the country back,” can be seen hopping over a fence restricting access to the Capitol grounds while carrying a pro-Trump flag.
The FBI has arrested more than 725 people in connection with the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol. Online sleuths have successfully identified hundreds of people who stormed the Capitol, including dozens of individuals on the FBI’s Capitol Violence webpage who have not yet been arrested. The total number of people who could be arrested either for entering the Capitol on Jan. 6 or for engaging in violence outside the building tops 2,500.
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SC fascists rule that Alabama can gerrymander to the point that they will now have one less Black rep...fascists.

Thom Hartmann just reported a PAC controlled by traitor rump donated $1 million to a Mark Meadows entity at the time he was being subpoenaed to testify about trump. This donation was much larger than any previous.

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Libertas wrote: Sun Feb 06, 2022 1:41 pm Concern that Garland isnt investigating trump is not over reacting and not ignoring that things take time, it is living in the real world.

Sounds like the committee has the same concern I have mentioned numerous times, they arent even sure if Garland is investigating him let alone for what.

PRESSURE is necessary from the committee and from US, this is why I bring it up ALL THE TIME, I write my House and Senate reps ALL THE TIME telling them they need to play a part in pressuring DOJ.

We all need to do that!

(I have also tried to find out if our reps, House and Senate, have now seen a fully unredacted Mueller report? I cant find the answer, because if it was yes, I would think there would be more talk about it.)

You know it used to not matter that the committee has no law enforcement role, past committees didnt worry about all of the witnesses refusing to acknowledge subpoenas. This is the GOP saying the law does not apply to them, it cant be clearer than that.

Also, does anybody know how many witnesses called by that fuck Ken Starr refused to acknowledge the subpoena and even show up and how many who did took the 5th on all the questions? I am guessing none or very few. FUCK OFF you cons... :twisted:
Susan McDougal is the only one I recall. She actually went to jail for a time because she refused to testify. Of course that was back in the day when Congress could rely on the DOJ to enforce congressional supoenas and contempt of Congress referrals. Those days are long gone.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 1:01 pm Susan McDougal is the only one I recall. She actually went to jail for a time because she refused to testify. Of course that was back in the day when Congress could rely on the DOJ to enforce congressional supoenas and contempt of Congress referrals. Those days are long gone.
Your knowledge of history is terrible. Susan McDougal was never subpoenaed by Congress nor was she ever cited for Contempt of Congress.

But I do remember when Hillary Clinton was happy to sit for hours of testimony through a clown court of Congressional hearings, in which the GOP Congressmen made fools of themselves.

But Trump's folks are guilty of a hell of a lot, including treason. That's why they are refusing or taking the fifth.

Too bad you can't be honest about what's REALLY happening. This is completely and totally without precedent. Never before in our history has this happened.
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gounion wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:22 pm Your knowledge of history is terrible. Susan McDougal was never subpoenaed by Congress nor was she ever cited for Contempt of Congress.

But I do remember when Hillary Clinton was happy to sit for hours of testimony through a clown court of Congressional hearings, in which the GOP Congressmen made fools of themselves.

But Trump's folks are guilty of a hell of a lot, including treason. That's why they are refusing or taking the fifth.

Too bad you can't be honest about what's REALLY happening. This is completely and totally without precedent. Never before in our history has this happened.
Your memory is correct. Susan McDougal was convicted for refusing to answer questions to a grand jury concerning Whitewater.
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gounion wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:22 pmToo bad you can't be honest about what's REALLY happening.
They are only capable of lying to themselves.

That's it.
This is completely and totally without precedent. Never before in our history has this happened.
Conservative whites have been working up to this moment for well over 150 years. Watch as they get even more desperate, more virulent, and more violent leading up to the midterms.
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gounion wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:22 pm Your knowledge of history is terrible. Susan McDougal was never subpoenaed by Congress nor was she ever cited for Contempt of Congress.

But I do remember when Hillary Clinton was happy to sit for hours of testimony through a clown court of Congressional hearings, in which the GOP Congressmen made fools of themselves.

But Trump's folks are guilty of a hell of a lot, including treason. That's why they are refusing or taking the fifth.

Too bad you can't be honest about what's REALLY happening. This is completely and totally without precedent. Never before in our history has this happened.
Your point re: McDougal is well taken. She refused to cooperate with the independent council who is an part of the DOJ. As to the rest of my comment, I stand by it.
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gounion wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:22 pm Your knowledge of history is terrible. Susan McDougal was never subpoenaed by Congress nor was she ever cited for Contempt of Congress.

But I do remember when Hillary Clinton was happy to sit for hours of testimony through a clown court of Congressional hearings, in which the GOP Congressmen made fools of themselves.

But Trump's folks are guilty of a hell of a lot, including treason. That's why they are refusing or taking the fifth.

Too bad you can't be honest about what's REALLY happening. This is completely and totally without precedent. Never before in our history has this happened.
For years the Clinton's were investigated, but nothing was found.

Conversely you can find 7 crimes A DAY when looking at trump.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:08 pm Your point re: McDougal is well taken. She refused to cooperate with the independent council who is an part of the DOJ. As to the rest of my comment, I stand by it.
Um, Joe, your entire point was based upon a falsehood. Since she did NOT refuse a congressional subpoena, and was NOT cited for contempt of Congress, your entire statement is now, as Ron Zeigler would say, "inoperative."
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gounion wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:12 pm Um, Joe, your entire point was based upon a falsehood. Since she did NOT refuse a congressional subpoena, and was NOT cited for contempt of Congress, your entire statement is now, as Ron Zeigler would say, "inoperative."
Ummm. GoU. The larger point is whether someone refused to cooperate with the investigation. That’s the larger point. Susan McDougal refused to cooperate. I may have my facts wrong on whether it was a congressional investigation or a DOJ investigation but the fact remains she choose to go to jail rather than cooperate.
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gounion wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:12 pm Um, Joe, your entire point was based upon a falsehood. Since she did NOT refuse a congressional subpoena, and was NOT cited for contempt of Congress, your entire statement is now, as Ron Zeigler would say, "inoperative."
McDougal will be used by cons to legitimize the dozens or hundreds of GOP traitors who refuse to cooperate with justice.

Cons are all terrorists and need to be treated as such.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:17 pm Ummm. GoU. The larger point is whether someone refused to cooperate with the investigation. That’s the larger point. Susan McDougal refused to cooperate. I may have my facts wrong on whether it was a congressional investigation or a DOJ investigation but the fact remains she choose to go to jail rather than cooperate.
So you are saying that all of Trump's people refusing the testify should be in jail?
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Libertas wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:20 pm McDougal will be used by cons to legitimize the dozens or hundreds of GOP traitors who refuse to cooperate with justice.

Cons are all terrorists and need to be treated as such.
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