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The Biden Administration put out guidelines that points out that hospitals can legally perform abortions to save the life of the mother, even in states that ban abortions in all conditions. Texas wants the Supreme Court to give them the right to kill women. Here's the news from the Biden Administration:
The Biden administration on Monday said doctors and hospitals need to follow federal law and provide abortions if there is a medical emergency and the health or life of the patient is at risk, regardless of state law.

The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) reaffirmed that the Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act (EMTALA) protects providers when offering legally-mandated, life- or health-saving abortion services in emergency situations.

Administration officials said the federal government can penalize doctors or hospitals that fail to provide care in those circumstances.

“Under the law, no matter where you live, women have the right to emergency care — including abortion care,” HHS Secretary Xavier Becerra said in a statement. “Today, in no uncertain terms, we are reinforcing that we expect providers to continue offering these services, and that federal law preempts state abortion bans when needed for emergency care.”
Texas files suit:
Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton has filed a lawsuit in response to the Biden administration's recent efforts to prevent restrictions on abortion access in certain cases.
There you have it folks. Texas wants to make sure women die. Period.

The GOP is out of touch with Americans. I think this will be an issue across the country in November.
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GOP, assisted by all board cons, will kill Women and children, the ONLY question is how many.
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This should be the question asked of EVERY candidate for every office come November: Are you for killing women that need an abortion to save their lives? Yes or no?

Of course, a "yes" answer will turn off every mainstream, reasonable human being in America, and lose them votes. But a "no" answer will cause the base of the GOP also not to vote for them, and a lot of them will stay home.

I'm guessing that Glenn, Joe and Greengrass will still vote for candidates that are for the murder of women. They won't mind.

This shows that the most crazy, radical, murderous people are the ones in charge of the GOP.
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Patients being barred from medication no longer used for abortion post Roe
HHS is investigating reports of women being denied vital medication.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/patients- ... d=86755133

The Department of Health and Human Services announced it is investigating reports of women being denied vital medication for chronic medical conditions unrelated to abortion in states that have banned abortion after the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade.

[snip]

One example of the fallout has been reports of several women diagnosed with an autoimmune disease in states with abortion bans that have reported not being able to obtain a medication called methotrexate from their pharmacies.

[snip]

"I have gotten some reports where children have been denied methotrexate for their juvenile arthritis until they've proven they're not pregnant," Dr. Cuoghi Edens, an assistant professor of internal medicine and pediatrics at University of Chicago Medicine told the Los Angeles Times. That included an 8-year-old, Edens said. :roll:

[snip]

"In arthritis, women are disproportionately impacted by the disease, so it's more likely that you're going to see a woman show up to the pharmacy counter for a methotrexate prescription than a man. So, it's kind of like this double whammy in that there are a few layers to this particular issue," Anna Hyde, the vice president of advocacy and access, and Alisa Vidulich, the policy director for the Arthritis Foundation, told ABC News.

[snip][end]

This is why these decisions should be left between physicians and their patients.

People need medications for various conditions - and they're not available because they could be used for abortion (even IF they are NOT used that way ANYORE) - even if the patient because of age or condition can't get pregnant ...

Another problem - in many of the most restrictive states, Ob-Gyn med school training is being affected, as they worry about teaching procedures that, while yes, used in elective abortion, are also used in emergencies to save women's lives ...
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We know the GOP is going after contraception next. ALL kinds of contraception. Let's remember that Griswold was a case where married couples were barred from having ANY KIND of contraception at all - even rubbers.

That's the case they want to overturn.

Talk about being out of touch.
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GOP is the party of death and always has been, but now they are actively killing people.
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Please note - I have no problem with Catholic hospitals and I think as to most kinds of medical care they offer, they are top tier. BUT.

This was a problem before Roe's overturn, and I suspect won't get better. If you're pregnant, and want all options open to you, don't go to a Catholic hospital.

A growing number of women give birth at Catholic hospitals, where they do not receive the same reproductive health options – including birth control – provided at other hospitals
https://theconversation.com/a-growing-n ... als-184813

The Catholic religion holds that sex should only occur within marriage and that while it should be performed for the good of the spouses, each act must be open to procreation. Because of this, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops has published ethical and religious directives, last updated in 2018, that prohibit Catholic hospitals from providing birth control, abortion and infertility treatments. There are no exceptions, even if the care is needed to protect a person’s life or health.

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Even if people know that their hospital is Catholic, they might not know that attending a Catholic hospital could restrict the scope of care that they are able to receive. A large survey of women found that most did not expect restrictions on care at Catholic hospitals, especially for services viewed as less taboo than abortion. Respondents did not realize that Catholic hospitals are restricted in providing birth control, including female sterilization methods such as tubal ligation.

[snip]

Legal abortion is much safer than childbirth in the U.S.. Because people are 14 times more likely to die from pregnancy than from a legal abortion, it is important that they are able to avoid an unintended pregnancy.

These studies illustrate the need for people to have access to the birth control method of their choice – a choice that is all the more important now that people have lost their constitutional right to an abortion.

[snip][end]

Many Catholic hospitals will not perform abortions, even to save the life of the mother.
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Guys, we gotta remember the history with the GOP. They get into office because they lie about their real goals, just like the Justices did under oath when they swore they wouldn't overturn Roe. So, people say they won't do anything radical if elected, so they vote for them because they love the rhetoric.

But then, when the GOP gets the power, they go nuts, they don't care what the American people want, they want to push their agenda by force, and they overreach in their incredible hubris, and then they get tossed out.

They are repeating their history over and over and over.

The American people do NOT want what they are doing.
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They sure are & if they get their way & take control of both chambers next year kiss everything goodbye.
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ap215 wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 5:40 pm They sure are & if they get their way & take control of both chambers next year kiss everything goodbye.
Yep. The end of Democracy is the goal. And there's a reason they invite the Hungary dictator/Putin ally Viktor Orban to their CPACs. That's what they want. No more freedom.
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Smart authoritarians would bide their time until 2024, gaining power and acting reasonable, and then we'd be sunk.

But now we're seeing what they're really about. They blocked a bill in the Senate today that would allow women to cross state lines for abortions. Via HuffPo:
The Freedom to Travel for Health Care Act, introduced by Cortez Masto and other Democrats earlier this week, would clarify the right to cross state lines to obtain reproductive health care services. It would also empower the U.S. attorney general and affected individuals to bring civil lawsuits against anyone who attempts to restrict that right.

In his concurrence to Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, which reversed the 50-year precedent that established a national right to an abortion, Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh sought to downplay the impact of the ruling in states where abortion is now illegal, writing that the “constitutional right to interstate travel” would enable women to “travel to another state to obtain an abortion.”

But like the word “abortion,” the U.S. Constitution doesn’t explicitly mention the word “travel.” It is an enumerated right established under the First, Fifth, and 14th Amendments. Kavanaugh also appears to be alone on this front. No other justice in the Dobbs majority joined his concurrence.

Democrats and reproductive rights groups fear that Republican-controlled states will exploit this gap and move to restrict travel and criminalize cross-state travel to seek abortion care. Anti-abortion groups and GOP lawmakers in some states are already signaling that’s where they’d like to go next.
Now, Kav tried to pretend that women didn't have to worry, but no one joined him. And you know when push comes to shove, none of the five are going to say the Constitution protects your right to travel.
Conservatives have also threatened employers who proceed with plans to cover their employees’ travel expenses for out-of-state abortions ― either with criminal liability or by moving to strip their tax breaks. Dozens of major companies, including Amazon, Disney, Apple and JPMorgan, have committed to do so.
Anyone remember when the GOP stood for keeping the government OUT of business's hair? Not anymore!
Sen. Steve Daines (R-Mont.), meanwhile, claimed the legislation would lead to “abortion tourism” and that it would “protect the greed of woke corporations” who have pledged to cover travel costs of their employees.
Plus, now the Indiana Attorney General is going after the doctor that provided the abortion for the ten-year-old girl:
In a Thursday statement, Rokita said his office is “investigating this situation and are waiting for the relevant documents to prove if the abortion and/or the abuse were reported, as [Bernard] had requirements to do both under Indiana law. The failure to do so constitutes a crime in Indiana, and her behavior could also affect her licensure. Additionally, if a HIPAA violation did occur, that may affect next steps as well.”

Bernard’s attorney, Kathleen DeLaney, said Thursday that her client “took every appropriate and proper action in accordance with the law and both her medical and ethical training as a physician. She followed all relevant policies, procedures, and regulations in this case, just as she does every day to provide the best possible care for her patients. She has not violated any law, including patient privacy laws, and she has not been disciplined by her employer.”

Rokita has long backed extreme positions on abortion. When a GOP candidate said in 2012 that pregnancy from rape “is something that God intended to happen,” Rokita stood by him. In 2017, after four women accused Alabama GOP Senate candidate Roy Moore of pursuing them sexually when he was in his 30s and they were between the ages of 14 and 18, Rokita said he would be “comfortable” serving with him in the Senate ― and praised his anti-abortion credentials.

Both Indiana and Ohio have strong requirements for reporting rape allegations and abortions, Politico noted. Ohio Attorney General David Yost told Fox News his office hadn’t heard of a case involving a 10-year-old rape victim.
Republicans are now showing us what life would be like under total Republican rule. It's time the American people woke up to it, before it's too late.
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Another trumper arrested, election fraud


https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireSto ... h-86757961

3rd arrest made in alleged Colorado election security breach
Colorado officials say the former elections manager for a county clerk indicted on charges of tampering with voting equipment has been arrested on allegations that she was part of the alleged scheme
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Seems odd.

Texas SB8 has a clear exception that permits abortion if the mothers life is in danger.

https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/87R/b ... 00008F.pdf
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Bludogdem wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 7:54 pm Seems odd.

Texas SB8 has a clear exception that permits abortion if the mothers life is in danger.

https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/87R/b ... 00008F.pdf
Not odd at all, if you know Texas. The Texas GOP is the most radical state party in the nation.

Aren't you so damned proud of them, Greengrass?
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Trump fund raising already off of dead ex wife


https://youtu.be/kAUD0sasJpU
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gounion wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:49 pm Smart authoritarians would bide their time until 2024, gaining power and acting reasonable, and then we'd be sunk.

But now we're seeing what they're really about. They blocked a bill in the Senate today that would allow women to cross state lines for abortions. Via HuffPo:


Now, Kav tried to pretend that women didn't have to worry, but no one joined him. And you know when push comes to shove, none of the five are going to say the Constitution protects your right to travel.


Anyone remember when the GOP stood for keeping the government OUT of business's hair? Not anymore!



Plus, now the Indiana Attorney General is going after the doctor that provided the abortion for the ten-year-old girl:



Republicans are now showing us what life would be like under total Republican rule. It's time the American people woke up to it, before it's too late.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/14/produce ... costs.html

We are living life under liberal rule and just a sliver at that.
Which is why the party of the left aka the democratic party has to demonize the gop.

The last thing they want is to run on their actual record.
Has the gop gone to far right absolutely. Has the democratic party gone to far left. Something no liberal will ever even consider let alone admit. Even with 11pct inflation.
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:46 pm https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/14/produce ... costs.html

We are living life under liberal rule and just a sliver at that.
Which is why the party of the left aka the democratic party has to demonize the gop.

The last thing they want is to run on their actual record.
Has the gop gone to far right absolutely. Has the democratic party gone to far left. Something no liberal will ever even consider let alone admit. Even with 11pct inflation.
Translation: "I've got nothin'!"

I knew it. You'll happily vote for people wanting women to die. Thanks for proving my point. The ONLY ones demonizing the GOP are the GOP by their own actions.
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Today in Social Conservatives Are Psychos:
Bludogdem wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 7:54 pm Seems odd.

Texas SB8 has a clear exception that permits abortion if the mothers life is in danger.

https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/87R/b ... 00008F.pdf
Texas abortion law, along with these trigger laws, are barbaric.

Yet here you are soft-peddling the draconian Texas law as if nothings wrong.
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ProfX wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 4:18 pm Patients being barred from medication no longer used for abortion post Roe
HHS is investigating reports of women being denied vital medication.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/patients- ... d=86755133

The Department of Health and Human Services announced it is investigating reports of women being denied vital medication for chronic medical conditions unrelated to abortion in states that have banned abortion after the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade.

[snip]

One example of the fallout has been reports of several women diagnosed with an autoimmune disease in states with abortion bans that have reported not being able to obtain a medication called methotrexate from their pharmacies.

[snip]

"I have gotten some reports where children have been denied methotrexate for their juvenile arthritis until they've proven they're not pregnant," Dr. Cuoghi Edens, an assistant professor of internal medicine and pediatrics at University of Chicago Medicine told the Los Angeles Times. That included an 8-year-old, Edens said. :roll:

[snip]

"In arthritis, women are disproportionately impacted by the disease, so it's more likely that you're going to see a woman show up to the pharmacy counter for a methotrexate prescription than a man. So, it's kind of like this double whammy in that there are a few layers to this particular issue," Anna Hyde, the vice president of advocacy and access, and Alisa Vidulich, the policy director for the Arthritis Foundation, told ABC News.

[snip][end]

This is why these decisions should be left between physicians and their patients.

People need medications for various conditions - and they're not available because they could be used for abortion (even IF they are NOT used that way ANYORE) - even if the patient because of age or condition can't get pregnant ...

Another problem - in many of the most restrictive states, Ob-Gyn med school training is being affected, as they worry about teaching procedures that, while yes, used in elective abortion, are also used in emergencies to save women's lives ...
Saw this.

This is what the Arthritis Foundation has to say about it. viewtopic.php?p=30872#p30872
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:46 pmHas the gop gone to far right absolutely. …
… which is why neonazi white-nationalist duped conservatives like you will joyfully vote for it. The Republican Party does this on your behalf, to prop up your corrupt authoritarian ideology, to get your vote.

And you’ll stupidly deliver it to them in election after election after election.
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gounion wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:48 pm Translation: "I've got nothin'!"
When all else fails, cry racism uncleriley bidenflation AOC socialismcommunism. :problem:
Iknew it. You'll happily vote for people wanting women to die. Thanks for proving my point. The ONLY ones demonizing the GOP are the GOP by their own actions.
The GOP is corrupt because their constituents are corrupt.

Their laws and policy goals are white-supremacist because their constituents are white supremacists.

They pass misogynist laws because their perverted voters cannot distinguish between rape and love, at least not when it’s white males doing it. They’ll even tell you with a straight face that Strom Thurmond and Thomas Jefferson loved the underage, subjugated girls they impregnated.

They claim these laws protect life when they’re designed to destroy lives and entire families.

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Bradley P. Moss @BradMossEsq - Verified

So to recap:

The story was not fake.

The doctor did not violate privacy laws.

The doctor did properly report the abuse as required by law.

The rape victim had to travel out of state to get the abortion because of OH restrictions.

Republicans tried to lie about all of this.

——— David Folkenflik @davidfolkenflik - Verified
News: Indiana University Health system says it conducted an investigation of Dr Caitlin Bernard and found she violated no privacy regulations for the 10 year old Ohio girl who traveled to Indianapolis for an abortion. Statement below:

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https://twitter.com/BradMossEsq/status/ ... 9808899075



One of the local cons (green sock) also claimed it was fake.
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The book ban movement has a chilling new tactic: harassing teachers on social media - MIT Technology Review
Educators who stand up to conservative activists are being harassed and called “groomers” online, turning them into potential targets for real-world violence.[/b]

Nancy Vera was awakened suddenly at midnight on July 12 by the sound of a single gunshot, the bullet ricocheting off her home. She looked at a security camera just in time to see a truck speed away.

Vera was shocked but not surprised. The president of the Corpus Christi, Texas, branch of the American Federation of Teachers (AFT), she had recently handed out books with LGBTQ characters at a pride event for local students, alongside a drag queen.

Vera thought the event was a fun opportunity to connect with local parents and distribute books to kids. But conservatives, including her local sheriff, called the event an example of the "grooming and indoctrination of young people in our country." "Grooming" is a slur commonly used by devotees of the conspiracy theory QAnon, which claims that powerful people and institutions are ensnaring children in sex trafficking rings.

“This type of rhetoric is going to get people killed,” she says.

Corpus Christi, where Vera lives, has become a flashpoint for a growing push among Christian and conservative groups across the US to get certain books and topics they deem inappropriate for children removed from school libraries and curriculums. Now the fight is turning increasingly ugly, with people targeting individual teachers’ private social media accounts for scrutiny and even harassment.

On July 9, the conservative group County Citizens Defending Freedom (CCDF) held a public seminar in Corpus Christi about monitoring school curriculums and “researching social media of teachers, school board members, staff of school districts and elected officials,” effectively teaching people how to stalk and harass educators online.
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On July 9, the conservative group County Citizens Defending Freedom (CCDF) held a public seminar in Corpus Christi about monitoring school curriculums and “researching social media of teachers, school board members, staff of school districts and elected officials,” effectively teaching people how to stalk and harass educators online.
Hmmm, reminds me of Moms for "Liberty".

Ya know, stalking and harassing teachers, putting them under surveillance, and banning books are the opposite of freedom - right?
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