The Donald Trump is Batcrap Crazy and The Leader of the GOP Thread

[marindem01]

Are you also in the market for a bridge over ocean-front property in Arizona?

Do you think anyone else here is?

The GOP willingly and happily flocked to the Traitor. GOP Leadeship ran to him, they embraced his lunatic conspriacy theories and had no problem with the Traitor sucking to Putin.

The Traitor has a strangle hold on the GOP, though in this in the case of the GOP, it is more like Erotic Asphyxiation.

[carmenjonze]

The GOP willingly and happily flocked to the Traitor. GOP Leadeship ran to him, they embraced his lunatic conspriacy theories and had no problem with the Traitor sucking to Putin.

The Traitor has a strangle hold on the GOP, though in this in the case of the GOP, it is more like Erotic Asphyxiation.

Yeah sometimes I wonder if it's so strange. We could have seen this coming, some of us did, with Sarah Palin, the tea party, and the convergence of the paleocons, libbercons, confederocons, and 911 whackjobs.

Then you get the whackodoodle lefty horseshoes like Timmy, Tulsi, and Cynthia McKinney, and the so-called moderate, civility-mongering jobsandtheeconomy horseshoes like some of these people around here.

So much overlap.

[JoeMemphis]

Come on baby. Seven come eleven. Daddy needs a new trending.......

https://www.yahoo.com/news/republican-l ... 55532.html
Republican leaders are holding closed-door meetings to question Trump's power over the party, report says

Many republicans voted for Trump because they couldn’t vote for Hillary or Biden. Still there are some who voted for him because they believed he would turn things around in DC. They are the true believers. But I think the shine is starting to come off that penny. Maybe not fast enough. My hope is that he decides not to run in 2024 and the both parties put up better candidates. But that’s just wishful thinking.

[marindem01]

Oh Joy, Joe is adding his half-penny's worth of nothing.

[bradman]

Many republicans voted for Trump because they couldn’t vote for Hillary or Biden. Still there are some who voted for him because they believed he would turn things around in DC. They are the true believers. But I think the shine is starting to come off that penny. Maybe not fast enough. My hope is that he decides not to run in 2024 and the both parties put up better candidates. But that’s just wishful thinking.

Call it a wish. Call it a prayer. Call it hope. i don't care.

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies."

[ProfX]

Although Biden will be pretty old in 2024 (82 I believe), he still might run again.

If he withdraws, Harris will most certainly be the nominee. BTW, I'd be fine with either as our candidate.

Neither is perfect, of course, but other than that, in how many possible ways is it ridiculous to compare them to Trump?

I'm not hoping for Biden not to be the nominee. The history of Democratic POTUS candidates not running for a 2nd term (i.e. Johnson) does not lead to an illustrious result.

[bradman]

Being early on the Biden bandwagon, i had a two part wish. The first part of the wish came true. The second part of that wish was a hope that he'd bow out after the first term which would give us time to groom a younger generation for the next round.

Biden's response to it so far has been played down. Any of his comments so far give me a inkling of an Uncle Joe response, 'i'm still breathing, why the hell wouldn't i run again?'

[carmenjonze]

Many republicans voted for Trump because they couldn’t vote for Hillary or Biden.

According to..

Still there are some who voted for him because they believed he would turn things around in DC. They are the true believers.

Says…?

But I think the shine is starting to come off that penny. Maybe not fast enough. My hope is that he decides not to run in 2024 and the both parties put up better candidates. But that’s just wishful thinking.

The candidates you vote for are imposing white authoritarianism back on this country. #maga

[gounion]

Being early on the Biden bandwagon, i had a two part wish. The first part of the wish came true. The second part of that wish was a hope that he'd bow out after the first term which would give us time to groom a younger generation for the next round.

Biden's response to it so far has been played down. Any of his comments so far give me a inkling of an Uncle Joe response, 'i'm still breathing, why the hell wouldn't i run again?'

Well, let's be clear, from a purely political perspective, the best thing he could do is run, and then at some point in the Presidency, resign. Then his VP would go into the next election cycle as an incumbent. It would certainly be easier for VP Harris to win as an incumbent.

[carmenjonze]

Well, let's be clear, from a purely political perspective, the best thing he could do is run, and then at some point in the Presidency, resign. Then his VP would go into the next election cycle as an incumbent. It would certainly be easier for VP Harris to win as an incumbent.

Harris is too immigrant, too not-male, and too Black for them.

[gounion]

Harris is too immigrant, too not-male, and too Black for them.

For who? You mean the GOP?

[bradman]

Well, let's be clear, from a purely political perspective, the best thing he could do is run, and then at some point in the Presidency, resign. Then his VP would go into the next election cycle as an incumbent. It would certainly be easier for VP Harris to win as an incumbent.

Can't really see him pulling that move. But if it's a game plan, count me in.

[carmenjonze]

For who? You mean the GOP?

Them and these so-called moderates.

They can all go jump in the lake.

[gounion]

Them and these so-called moderates.

They can all go jump in the lake.

Well, it's going to be a lift.

I mean, look how they collectively blew a few gaskets over the hip hop Super Bowl halftime show. "Only ONE white person! What about diversity!"

They can't help themselves.

[JoeMemphis]

Being early on the Biden bandwagon, i had a two part wish. The first part of the wish came true. The second part of that wish was a hope that he'd bow out after the first term which would give us time to groom a younger generation for the next round.

Biden's response to it so far has been played down. Any of his comments so far give me a inkling of an Uncle Joe response, 'i'm still breathing, why the hell wouldn't i run again?'

I’m not all that concerned about the age. I’ve known people who were old at 50 and people who were still young at 90. I would like to see better candidates. The nation can’t get much more polarized. I wouldn’t mind seeing a candidate that at least had some appeal to both sides of the aisle. I know that’s a hard ask in todays world.

[carmenjonze]

I’m not all that concerned about the age. I’ve known people who were old at 50 and people who were still young at 90. I would like to see better candidates. The nation can’t get much more polarized. I wouldn’t mind seeing a candidate that at least had some appeal to both sides of the aisle. I know that’s a hard ask in todays world.

Your side of the aisle includes literal neonazis and Confederate flag wavers. Why in the world should anybody try to appeal to neonazis and Confederate flagwavers?

[carmenjonze]

Well, it's going to be a lift.

I mean, look how they collectively blew a few gaskets over the hip hop Super Bowl halftime show. "Only ONE white person! What about diversity!"

They can't help themselves.

Colonizers.

[gounion]

I’m not all that concerned about the age. I’ve known people who were old at 50 and people who were still young at 90. I would like to see better candidates. The nation can’t get much more polarized. I wouldn’t mind seeing a candidate that at least had some appeal to both sides of the aisle. I know that’s a hard ask in todays world.

It's impossible for a reasonable Republican to ever get out of the primaries any more. Your side has went off the rails.

[bradman]

I’m not all that concerned about the age. I’ve known people who were old at 50 and people who were still young at 90. I would like to see better candidates. The nation can’t get much more polarized. I wouldn’t mind seeing a candidate that at least had some appeal to both sides of the aisle. I know that’s a hard ask in todays world.

I have a 85 year old neighbor that i've known since age 5. Mind and body, she never got past the age of 50. Same hairdo, same rosy cheeks, same laugh.

The spring in Biden's step is something i've always loved. Add those Ray Bans, and the guy looked 60 and way cool. He's still got the cool thing down but i notice the spring is looking a bit tired. Don't get me wrong, i'd vote for him in a heartbeat.

Ya, i dunno if there is such an animal anymore. Crist, some of my fellow Democrats can't even pass the purity tests in our own party and we're going to find a candidate that would please the moderates of your party? Now that's a wish.

[Glennfs]

I have a 85 year old neighbor that i've known since age 5. Mind and body, she never got past the age of 50. Same hairdo, same rosy cheeks, same laugh.

The spring in Biden's step is something i've always loved. Add those Ray Bans, and the guy looked 60 and way cool. He's still got the cool thing down but i notice the spring is looking a bit tired. Don't get me wrong, i'd vote for him in a heartbeat.

Ya, i dunno if there is such an animal anymore. Crist, some of my fellow Democrats can't even pass the purity tests in our own party and we're going to find a candidate that would please the moderates of your party? Now that's a wish.

I find that liberals not only have a purity test for candidates it also extends to individual issues.
A person can agree with 99pct of the lefts position on transgender rights and be considered bigoted because of that 1pct

[carmenjonze]

... some of my fellow Democrats can't even pass the purity tests in our own party and we're going to find a candidate that would please the moderates of your party?

what "moderates" of his party?

Name one. Plus, this clown thinks he's too good for political parties.

By the way, asking so-called moderates to not be collaborators with literal neonazis, Confederates, and other vote-suppressors is a very low bar for a "purity test." But in your rush to make alleged "moderates" out to be victims, you're distorting what an actual "purity test" is. Here are some real-world examples of actual "purity tests." Note that they all come from your friends as enabled by fencesitting capitulators/collaborators such as yourself.

Loyalty Oaths - Middle Tennessee State U.

From the Civil War to Trump: The paranoid history of loyalty oaths - WP

HUAC and Hollywood - PBS American Masters

McCarthyism and Blacklisting - UC Berkeley

It's a very good thing that we've never been dependent on so-called moderates to do the right thing for the people of this country, and we aren't now, either. Had anyone had to rely on you guys, we'd still be guessing how many jelly beans in the jar, just to register to vote.

[JoeMemphis]

I have a 85 year old neighbor that i've known since age 5. Mind and body, she never got past the age of 50. Same hairdo, same rosy cheeks, same laugh.

The spring in Biden's step is something i've always loved. Add those Ray Bans, and the guy looked 60 and way cool. He's still got the cool thing down but i notice the spring is looking a bit tired. Don't get me wrong, i'd vote for him in a heartbeat.

Ya, i dunno if there is such an animal anymore. Crist, some of my fellow Democrats can't even pass the purity tests in our own party and we're going to find a candidate that would please the moderates of your party? Now that's a wish.

It’s no different in the Republican Party. Everybody is a warrior. In business you look for people who can get things done. Often that means working with and getting along with all kinds of people. In almost every endeavor involving people, it comes down to bringing people together. Except in politics. Then it’s all about the base. Elections are won in the middle. That’s where most people live and work.

[carmenjonze]

I find that liberals not only have a purity test for candidates it also extends to individual issues.

The reason you think like this is because you don't read, so you don't know anything.

Conservatives, especially conservative whites, have been implementing actual, literal "purity tests" on both candidates, citizens, and noncitizens, since you started to stink up these shores.

If this post wasn't enough for you viewtopic.php?p=16011#p16011, here are some more choice examples of what a "purity test" is.

Segregation - South Carolina Encyclopedia

Eugenic Laws Against Race Mixing - Eugenics Archive

The Immigration Act of 1924 - US House of Representatives History, Art & Archives

These are just 3 past examples of conservative whites and your actual "purity tests." These are actually the nicer ones.

There's an entire thread of the latest spate of purity tests you guys are implementing against the chimera of CRT, and against trans girls in schools, in The Critical Race Theory/so-called Cancel Culture Thread.

Again, "the left," whatever you think that is, has never imposed anything on the level of anti-LGBTQ, anti-trans, anti-immigrant or vote suppression in this country.

"The left" has NEVER implemented any such policies, or formed violent, lynchmobbing vigilantes like Citizens Councils or the KKK to back them up. We're not doing so now, either.

So find a better metaphor. "Purity test" isn't working for you clowns.

You:

A person can agree with 99pct of the lefts position on transgender rights and be considered bigoted because of that 1pct

This is a stupid complaint couched in terms of "the left," out of cowardice, though it's really a petty, repeated grievance about me, personally. Perhaps you think if you repeat it often enough, other people besides you will start to believe it, dunno.

You're an anti-trans bigot not because of any "purity test" imposed on you, but be because you're simply bigoted against trans women, and do not support either cis women's or trans women's physical and political autonomy. Specifically: regarding trans women and girls in in sports, in locker rooms, in rest rooms, and whatever other traditionalist propaganda that's been drilled into your head for decades about trans people.

Besides, who needs agreement from confederates on any social issues, ever?

Your supposed agreements on an internet message board are irrelevant. You vote for virulently anti-LGBTQ/anti-trans policians like Nikki Haley and Lindsey Graham, then act like you're the victim when criticized.

Meanwhile, so-called moderate dullards like bradman, who like Sam Lefthand has been known to play the "my kid is trans" card, blithely goes right along with it. As if the destructive political choices of people like you don't even affect their own kid.

[carmenjonze]

Elections are won in the middle.

No, they aren't.

[ProfX]

If people are saying mildly left-of-center Dems like Harris or Biden are "far left" or "too out of the mainstream" I wonder about who's really got the honest, objective perspective.

I should also note that unlike Trump, they are not incompetent self-aggrandizing authoritarians with questionable foreign ties stoking right populist white nationalism and COVID denialism.