Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer to retire

[carmenjonze]

i liked the video and thought it put some things to rest while opening up the possibility of a conversation about someone besides Harris for 2024.

i wasn't trying to be deceptive nor am i walking back anything.

That may be true, but I do not buy this explanation at all, due to a very consistent personal history of what you call being a "fencesitter." What this has meant for your posts here is really just you consistently throwing in with the right, as every so-called moderate typically ends up doing.

Why would this time be any different? That's a rhetorical question. No need to answer.

[bradman]

Okay, so here's the thing, Brad. You often don't seem to make clear what you're doing or talking about. First, nothing she has done is TOXIC. Second, the right has done it's usual good job of demonizing her. It seemed to me that your post was pushing their meme. While it's obvious she's not at the top of popularity polls right now, I don't think it's fair at all.

But the right will push hard to demonize ANY non-white candidate. It is interesting that Stacey Abrams is one that it doesn't seem to work on.

And you won't find me EVER pushing forth a "Toxic Kamala Harris" line of thinking. She's a remarkable woman who is heads and above ANYONE on the right.

[bold] You think you have it bad you should talk to my wife. She calls it my "riddle mode." She's always telling me to get to the point.

Let's not get stuck on a clickbait headline. It happens to often.

i feel the same way about Abrams as i did Obama early on. There's something about her that screams leadership.

[Libertas]

Kamala Harris is "toxic" the way this



this is toxic for ants. If anything, she is not "toxic" enough.

You cons HATE her because she is a strong Woman of Color, and you fear and hate nothing more on earth than that.

Go ahead and ask them if they UNCONDITIONALLY support Prez Biden , America and NATO over Russia!

[marindem01]

Here is another great jobs report. This is why "Harris is toxic", has become a Republican Meme.

U.S.Labor Market Shrugs Off Omicron Surge, Economy Strong Ahead of Rate Hikes.

https://www.reuters.com/business/us-job ... 022-02-04/.

WASHINGTON, Feb 4 (Reuters) - The U.S. economy created far more jobs than expected in January but despite the disruption to consumer-facing businesses from a surge in COVID-19 cases, pointing to underlying strength that should sustain the expansion as the Federal Reserve starts to raise interest rates.

The Labor Department's closely watched employment report on Friday also showed a whopping 709,000 more jobs were added in November and December than previously estimated. Wage gains accelerated last month and the labor pool expanded.

[gounion]

[bold] Because of that, it was only one of two times in my life that i've voted Republican. i was thinking from the heart and not the head. i so wanted the Powell Doctrine to be true.

I want to make a point here. I’ve NEVER voted for a Republican for President. I voted against HW both times. He proved my vote against him when he started the pardons to cover up the corruption in the Reagan administration that sent American weapons to terrorists that killed Americans. He was part of the Administration that armed Saddam Hussein with nerve gas.

It wasn’t a hard decision.

[bradman]

I want to make a point here. I’ve NEVER voted for a Republican for President. I voted against HW both times. He proved my vote against him when he started the pardons to cover up the corruption in the Reagan administration that sent American weapons to terrorists that killed Americans. He was part of the Administration that armed Saddam Hussein with nerve gas.

It wasn’t a hard decision.

To be honest, i've voted conservative twice in my life. Bush 1 came early in my voting career. Since i was mainly into war history at the time, the first Gulf War had an impact on me. If we were going to wage war, the first Gulf war would be the way to do it. i was hoping that a policy change in the way we wage war would become set in concrete. No more "police actions" like Korea and Nam. What a fool i was. His kid fucked it all up. For that vote i will not apologize. What can i say, i was a one issue voter during that election. That's how much stopping police actions meant to me.

And then there's Pawlenty for Mn. Governor. i have no excuse for that one and deserve to be taken behint the barn and beaten severely about the head and shoulders. i fucked up.

[carmenjonze]

To be honest, i've voted conservative twice in my life. Bush 1 came early in my voting career. Since i was mainly into war history at the time, the first Gulf War had an impact on me. If we were going to wage war, the first Gulf war would be the way to do it. i was hoping that a policy change in the way we wage war would become set in concrete. No more "police actions" like Korea and Nam. What a fool i was. His kid fucked it all up. For that vote i will not apologize. What can i say, i was a one issue voter during that election. That's how much stopping police actions meant to me.

And then there's Pawlenty for Mn. Governor. i have no excuse for that one and deserve to be taken behint the barn and beaten severely about the head and shoulders. i fucked up.

You are being exploited.

[Glennfs]

Kamala Harris is "toxic" the way this



this is toxic for ants. If anything, she is not "toxic" enough.

You cons HATE her because she is a strong Woman of Color, and you fear and hate nothing more on earth than that.

Go ahead and ask them if they UNCONDITIONALLY support Prez Biden , America and NATO over Russia!

Do liberals hate Governor Haley because she is a strong woman of color.
People do not hate Harris at all (of course some do) they oppose her political beliefs

[gounion]

Do liberals hate Governor Haley because she is a strong woman of color.
People do not hate Harris at all (of course some do) they oppose her political beliefs

Explain why the GOP folks are attacking the Democratic nominee for the SC as being "unqualified", even if they have no idea who it is, except that it's a black woman?

Are you saying that's not racist or sexist?

And why is it so wrong not to be considering a white man for the job this one time?

[Libertas]

Explain why the GOP folks are attacking the Democratic nominee for the SC as being "unqualified", even if they have no idea who it is, except that it's a black woman?

Are you saying that's not racist or sexist?

And why is it so wrong not to be considering a white man for the job this one time?

Con says doesnt like Harris politics.

Con doesnt know what they are, cons party has no agenda other than to oppose dems. Cons party sides with Russia now, con should shut up.

Every single thing Harris and dems stand for HELPS the con, every single thing con party stands for HURTS them...why do they vote against their own best interest over and over and over and over...we know, dont we.

[carmenjonze]

Do liberals hate Governor Haley because she is a strong woman of color.
People do not hate Harris at all (of course some do) they oppose her political beliefs

You and the rest of the tokenizing white cons hate Nikki Haley and the other couple nonwhites you trot out as your own personal pets.

We can tell because that’s the only thing they’re good for, to you, and the only time you talk about them. Deflection objects. They’re not even human beings to you, but then, no “woman of color” or person of color is a human being to you dirty confederates.

They’re just hashmarks on a ledger.

[carmenjonze]

Explain why the GOP folks are attacking the Democratic nominee for the SC as being "unqualified", even if they have no idea who it is, except that it's a black woman?

Are you saying that's not racist or sexist?

And why is it so wrong not to be considering a white man for the job this one time?

It’s white genocide!

[marindem01]

Haley is the token Woman of Color that Glenn and other Cons trot out in order to prove that Progressives are the bigots. Liberal Glenn, is not a four letter word (for you benefit Glenn 4 is the number between 3 and 5).

I know you are trying to use it as a slur, but it ain't working.

[carmenjonze]

Haley is the token Woman of Color that Glenn and other Cons trot out in order to prove that Progressives are the bigots. Liberal Glenn, is not a four letter word (for you benefit Glenn 4 is the number between 3 and 5).

I know you are trying to use it as a slur, but it ain't working.

People like Glennfs and the hate-based, supremacist way they treat nonwhite persons among them are the reason the Republican Party has become the WN party peddling WN wares. This is why it's a party filled overwhelmingly with violent white conservatives, and why nonwhite people who aren't white-aspirants -- which is the vast majority of not-white people -- do not vote for that party's policies.

Despite how the party standard has treated her, Ms. Haley still thinks she's in with these bigots, since she and the rest of the 10 nonwhites in that party are just as big of opportunists as these people they wish to impress. Assimilationism and wanting to be thought of as so-called white is a dirty drug. The only reason Glennfs even trotted her out was because somebody said "Kamala Harris."

Classic white-supremacist tokenism.

[marindem01]

Here is part of the reason for the Fascist Republican Party Hissy/Pissy over the announcement by President Biden to appoint Ketjani Brown Jackson to SCOTUS. She issued a scathing take down fo the Traitor's attempt to claim Executive Priviledge.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/2 ... p-00012026.

[Number6]

To be honest, i've voted conservative twice in my life. Bush 1 came early in my voting career. Since i was mainly into war history at the time, the first Gulf War had an impact on me. If we were going to wage war, the first Gulf war would be the way to do it. i was hoping that a policy change in the way we wage war would become set in concrete. No more "police actions" like Korea and Nam. What a fool i was. His kid fucked it all up. For that vote i will not apologize. What can i say, i was a one issue voter during that election. That's how much stopping police actions meant to me.

And then there's Pawlenty for Mn. Governor. i have no excuse for that one and deserve to be taken behint the barn and beaten severely about the head and shoulders. i fucked up.

I never voted for a republican for president since I was able to vote in 1972. Ford was the only republican president I liked but I still didn't vote for him. I was in the AF during both Gulf Wars and I thought our reasons for going to war in each was bogus. Gulf War I wasn't about freeing Kuwait but about not allowing Saddam Hussein from taking over Kuwait's oil and having a larger control/influence on oil prices. Gulf War II was the most needless war in our history and it was about Bush wanting to be a wartime president, revenge for the assassination attempt on his father, and to prove he's better than his father. Cheney wanted war for control of Iraq's oil and to make money providing services to the military.

[Glennfs]

I never voted for a republican for president since I was able to vote in 1972. Ford was the only republican president I liked but I still didn't vote for him. I was in the AF during both Gulf Wars and I thought our reasons for going to war in each was bogus. Gulf War I wasn't about freeing Kuwait but about not allowing Saddam Hussein from taking over Kuwait's oil and having a larger control/influence on oil prices. Gulf War II was the most needless war in our history and it was about Bush wanting to be a wartime president, revenge for the assassination attempt on his father, and to prove he's better than his father. Cheney wanted war for control of Iraq's oil and to make money providing services to the military.

I have always wondered what should we have done or do when we know a foreign government tries to assassinate a sitting or former president

[carmenjonze]

I have always wondered what should we have done or do when we know a foreign government tries to assassinate a sitting or former president

Sez the guy who calls FDR a war criminal?

Your entire party supports Putin, since your entire party is controlled by Donald Trump. And so are you.

[Libertas]

Sez the guy who calls FDR a war criminal?

Your entire party supports Putin, since your entire party is controlled by Donald Trump. And so are you.

What a disgusting person, why is he here? Having read that I am sick, very sick.

Calling FDR a war criminal, jesus what a horrible person.

[carmenjonze]

What a disgusting person, why is he here? Having read that I am sick, very sick.

Calling FDR a war criminal, jesus what a horrible person.

A "war criminal" for domestic policies that Glennfs would have backed one million percent in 1941.

[bradman]

I never voted for a republican for president since I was able to vote in 1972. Ford was the only republican president I liked but I still didn't vote for him. I was in the AF during both Gulf Wars and I thought our reasons for going to war in each was bogus. Gulf War I wasn't about freeing Kuwait but about not allowing Saddam Hussein from taking over Kuwait's oil and having a larger control/influence on oil prices. Gulf War II was the most needless war in our history and it was about Bush wanting to be a wartime president, revenge for the assassination attempt on his father, and to prove he's better than his father. Cheney wanted war for control of Iraq's oil and to make money providing services to the military.

All wars are bogus. But considering the history of human nature, when we do go to war, the first gulf war would be the way to do it. Something Biden is scrambling to do right now. Put together a decent coalition.

Ya, bad enough we plopped a tiny country into such a position as to take away oil and vital ports from what can be considered the breadbasket of the area. Saddam's first attempt to correct that situation didn't go well. Ended up in a stalemate. It was somewhere around the time Saddam became somewhat frustrated with directional drilling and western involvement and said, screw it. He took the oil. He took the ports. He took Kuwait. He was now in a position to upset oil markets. Sure it was the main reason for the war. That aside, it was a dickhead move on Saddam's part. Much like Putin's dickhead move.

The second gulf war was a farce. If the first gulf war was a better vision of how war should be waged, the second gulf war is its opposite. i've always wondered that. How could the father pull it off so well only to have his kid screw it up so badly. Dad did notice and said as much when he questioned some of the characters his kid was hanging around with.

In the end, i more blame the Project for the New American Century's screwed up mentality for the second war. A ...we don't need anyone's stinkin' help mentality. We won the cold war. We're the power now. Everyone else get in line. Here's what we are going to do. We are going to "give" Iraq democracy American Style. Once democracy was reached there, the rest of the area would fall like dominos to the wonders of Capitalism. We'd be greeted with wine and roses and everyone in the area would live happily ever after. In reality about the only thing accomplished was to make Iran the big boy on the block.

[ZoWie]

The first gulf war happened after the Republican administration tricked Hussein into annexing Kuwait by telling the Iraqis that the US would stay out of it. This is well documented in books by State Department officials of the time.

We can go on forever about how well run the war really was. The military phase was indeed a successful execution of shock and awe, perhaps the only time it ever worked so well. Then we saw the Gulf War Syndrome that disabled thousands of our veterans. I never did see a good explanation of what caused that.

After that, we had the total capitulation to the global oil industry, which is what made the Russian kleptocrats their first trillion dollars. Not just here, but also offshore with Gazprom and Rosneft in Russia, BP in Europe and Russia, on and on with the whole class of robber barons that did it to us in the butt. Their ascendency ultimately gave us the presidency of perhaps the most unqualified candidate who ever ran, one Donald Trump. The establishment thus created is still busy implementing their right wing reactionary craze. Meanwhile, while the political dialog grinds to a halt, we still have a totally undue reliance on that gooey black oil stuff. It's reached the point where extreme sacrifices must be made to save the planet from climate change, and no one wants to do that.

Worse, Gulf War I and II were as much a campaign for the minds of Americans as for the price of oil. The propaganda coming out of the military media department was endless, and Nooz ate it up like nothing since the mandatory censorship imposed in the last real Congressionally declared war, namely WWII. People who tuned in expecting balanced coverage got Pentagon briefings in PR-speak, long term denial of assets being their name for killing thousands of troops, etc etc, and endless cheerleading by supposed journalists.

It didn't help when one of our oil industry stooges over there, one Osama Bin Laden, got religion or took the wrong pills or something and started a terrorist movement. The consequences of that are well documented in memorials in Lower Manhattan and Pennsylvania, and of course in the 20 year military disaster that followed. No Shock and Awe this time, though what it did to the Afghan and Iraqi peoples was pretty shocking and awful, and what it did for American morale wasn't much better towards the end of the whole sickening debacle.

The brief, unhappy rise and fall of AM progressive talk arose from an attempt to restore balance. In the era of good feeling (sort of) that followed Gulf War I, a lot of people were silenced. In Gulf War II, the lack of a decisive end caused the majority to dissent, and somewhere in all that a lot of people had decided that their voices were not represented in the media. They were right. As always, being right does not make you very many friends, at least in the financial department.

And here we are, once again worried about nukes. Wonder if people will start turning their pools into fallout shelters again.