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There are so many cases not just simply of "police misconduct" but "police misconduct" that results in death and a free pass on continued injustice. This thread is on the continuing news stories that we covered on RFL 1.0, mostly in Stop Calling the Cops on Us and the Fires in Minneapolis thread.

Judge says 'there appears to be intentional discrimination' in Arbery jury selection, but allows trial to move forward with 1 Black juror - CNN
fter a long and contentious jury selection process in a coastal Georgia county in preparation for the trial for Ahmaud Arbery's killing, a panel of 12 people was chosen Wednesday -- consisting of one Black member and 11 White members.

The jury was selected after a two-and-a-half-week selection process that ended with prosecutors for the state accusing defense attorneys of disproportionately striking qualified Black jurors and basing some of their strikes on race.

Judge Timothy Walmsley said the defense appeared to be discriminatory in selecting the jury but that the case could go forward.

"This court has found that there appears to be intentional discrimination," Walmsley said Wednesday.
The county is 25% Black.

And, yet.

This is how white supremacism works. This is exactly how white supremacism works.
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Three Malheur County law enforcement officers appear on leaked Oath Keepers list - Malheur Enterprise
A list of members of the far-right group was leaked to media. OPB first reported the presence of two members of Malheur County law enforcement on the list in October.

VALE – At least 13 Malheur County residents, including three law enforcement officers, at one point held membership in the Oath Keepers, a far-right militia organization, according to internal records obtained by a national group.

Nationally, the Oath Keepers gained notoriety this year as several members face federal charges for participating in the Jan. 6 attacks on the U.S. Capitol.
Federal prosecutors said in the indictment that “some members of Oath Keepers believe that the federal government has been co-opted by a cabal of elites actively trying to strip American citizens of their rights.”

The indictment said that the group focuses on “recruiting current and former members of military, law enforcement and first-responder personnel.”
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Cops and Paramedics Involved in Elijah McClain’s Death Charged With Homicide - Vice
The police officers and paramedics who stopped 23-year-old Elijah McClain and administered a fatal dose of ketamine are being charged with homicide.

A grand jury indicted three Aurora, Colorado, police officers and two paramedics on a total of 32 counts Wednesday afternoon in a rare move to hold them accountable for acts while on duty. Every defendant is facing one count of criminally negligent homicide and a count of manslaughter, according to Colorado Attorney General Phil Weiser, while assault charges vary among those involved in McClain’s death.

“Our goal is to seek justice for Elijah McClain, for his family and his friends, and for our state,” Weiser said Wednesday.

On August 24, 2019, McClain was walking home from work wearing a ski mask he wore to keep himself warm, because he was anemic. After a resident called police because McClain looked “suspicious,” Aurora police officers Nathan Woodyard, Randy Roedema, and Jason Rosenblatt pulled up and told the young Black man to stop. But McClain kept walking because he had headphones on at the time of the verbal command, according to body camera footage.
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This story tells us how it works in today's world:

Former Durant officer and Iowa State Patrol Trooper indicted on federal charges; hearing scheduled for next week
Robert James Smith, a former Durant officer and Iowa State Patrol Trooper, is now facing federal charges for an incident that occurred back in September 2017.

On Tuesday, November 16th, 2021, Smith is scheduled to appear in court for indictment charges for violating Bryce Yakish’s right to be free from the use of unreasonable force by a law enforcement officer, which led to bodily injury, and from willfully depriving his right to be free from unreasonable seizure.

Dash-cam footage from the stop. shows Smith using what some believe to be excessive force against Yakish after he had pulled him over near West Liberty. Court documents say Yakish needed medical attention because of what Smith did.

Smith’s initial appearance and arraignment will take place at 3:00 pm at the United States Courthouse in Cedar Rapids.
So, this is how the system works. Timeline:
  • He attacked Bryce Yakish in 2017.
  • He retired from the Highway Patrol, likely with a pension, in 2018.
  • He then hired as an officer in Durant.
  • Bryce Yakish sued the state. After the video was release, Smith resigned from the Durant Police Department.
  • In April, the State paid Yakish $225,000 to settle the lawsuit.
  • Just a few days ago, federal charges were brought against Smith.
So why didn't the STATE or the HIghway Partrol do anything against Smith? Why wasn't he charged with anything?

Pretty simple: In these racist police systems, the police unions control the prosecutors. Nothing is ever done to them. Just an in the Civil Rights era, it takes federal investigations and federal courts to EVER bring ANY sort of justice.

And if the GOP controls the White House, there aren't any investigations at all. That's how the GOP likes it.
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gounion wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 1:04 pm This story tells us how it works in today's world:

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So why didn't the STATE or the HIghway Partrol do anything against Smith? Why wasn't he charged with anything?

Pretty simple: In these racist police systems, the police unions control the prosecutors. Nothing is ever done to them. Just an in the Civil Rights era, it takes federal investigations and federal courts to EVER bring ANY sort of justice.
Was about to say.

Sounds like how it works in yesteryear's world.
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States rights ideology is two-tiered. There are citizens of the state with full rights, noncitizens with zero rights, and other citizens with curtailed rights.

This rationale undergirds second-class citizenship, so-called separate but equal, and White Citizens Councils/Uptown Klan (and a lot of our immigration policy starting with the Alien and Sedition Acts of 1798._

Under these states rights regimes, whites are citizens of the state. Everybody else can be made targets of the state and its white citizens. It is not and never was limited to the south.

A good example is western states, WA, CA, OR, etc., which regularly stripped citizenship rights from Asian Americans, wholesale, under color of law: Anti-Coolie Acts, Exclusion Acts, Alien Land Laws, etc.

Not to mention the mass murder and vigilante violence to back it up.

Rock Springs massacre - Wyoming

Tacoma Riot

Bellingham (WA) Riots - virulently anti-South Asian

Watsonville, CA riots - anti-Filipino

One day you're a citizen. The next day your state has legislated away all of your citizenship rights, and it was perfectly constitutional. Internment, and relocation incarceration during WW2 could not have happened without decades of these mechanisms already in place.
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Miami Cops Arrest Man for "Stealing" His Own Car - Miami New Times
"He reported to the cops because he believed that the cops were actually going to assist him," Pierre says. "And then it turns out that they racially profiled him."
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Pennsylvania teen had his hands up when fatally shot by State Police, new videos show

STROUDSBURG, Pa. — A Chinese American teenager who was fatally shot by Pennsylvania State Police last year had his hands in the air when troopers opened fire, new videos reveal, prompting calls for an independent investigation.

The videos, recorded by the State Police, show the final moments of Christian Hall’s life on the afternoon of Dec. 30, 2020.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ch ... A4NFlZzUlo
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ap215 wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:26 am Pennsylvania teen had his hands up when fatally shot by State Police, new videos show

STROUDSBURG, Pa. — A Chinese American teenager who was fatally shot by Pennsylvania State Police last year had his hands in the air when troopers opened fire, new videos reveal, prompting calls for an independent investigation.

The videos, recorded by the State Police, show the final moments of Christian Hall’s life on the afternoon of Dec. 30, 2020.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ch ... A4NFlZzUlo
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Ex-cop admits to running meth lab out of his N.J. home

A former Long Branch, N.J., police officer admitted Tuesday he ran a methamphetamine lab out of his home.

Christopher Walls, 50, pleaded guilty to causing a risk of widespread Injury and manufacturing a controlled dangerous substance, the Monmouth County Prosecutor’s Office said Tuesday.

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Another killer cop who shot an unarmed Latino man who was driving away, walks.

L.A. County sheriff’s deputy acquitted at manslaughter trial - LA Times
Liu had claimed the vehicle struck him and he was in fear for his life, but multiple witnesses disputed that description. While the deputy complained of pain in his knees, head and neck after the incident, an emergency room doctor who treated him testified Liu suffered no significant injuries.

The shooting was relatively unknown until then-Los Angeles County Dist. Atty. Jackie Lacey filed manslaughter charges against Liu in 2018. Prosecutors have argued Liu acted recklessly, escalating a minor stop of a nonviolent man into a deadly confrontation that also endangered everyone else in the gas station as well as nearby drivers.

“The defendant made one tragically bad decision after another, contrary to common sense, contrary to his own training and contrary to his own departmental policy. He lost his head,” Deputy Dist. Atty. Christopher Baker said during his closing arguments earlier this week. “The shooting was unreasonable, unnecessary and therefore, also, illegal.”
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carmenjonze wrote: Sat Nov 20, 2021 12:17 pm Another killer cop who shot an unarmed Latino man who was driving away, walks.

L.A. County sheriff’s deputy acquitted at manslaughter trial - LA Times



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Kyle feared for his life too, after he created the situation, like this cop.
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Libertas wrote: Sat Nov 20, 2021 12:52 pm Kyle feared for his life too, after he created the situation, like this cop.
The new mindset of the right is that if you FEEL you are in danger, even if you're delusional, that gives you the right to start blowing people away.

So if, with our new "Stand Your Ground" laws, all Harris and Klebold would have had to do is to say they were in fear of their lives from everyone at school, to justify their mass murder.

And if anyone else tried to disarm Rittenhouse after he shot three people, he could have killed all of them too.
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gounion wrote: Sat Nov 20, 2021 12:55 pm The new mindset of the right is that if you FEEL you are in danger, even if you're delusional, that gives you the right to start blowing people away.

So if, with our new "Stand Your Ground" laws, all Harris and Klebold would have had to do is to say they were in fear of their lives from everyone at school, to justify their mass murder.

And if anyone else tried to disarm Rittenhouse after he shot three people, he could have killed all of them too.
This country has had a really long legacy of pro-vigilante laws, though. They’re passing more and more of them. It’s also connected to oh my goodness a Toni Morrison book ten years ago made me feel bad so you better take off the shelves and vote Republican! :problem:

Lethal snowflakes.
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carmenjonze wrote: Sat Nov 20, 2021 1:03 pm This country has had a really long legacy of pro-vigilante laws, though. They’re passing more and more of them. It’s also connected to oh my goodness a Toni Morrison book ten years ago made me feel bad so you better take off the shelves and vote Republican! :problem:

Lethal snowflakes.
They want all libs gone, all POC etal.

All.

They dont care how, which is why over 74 million people wanted trump to cause us more harm. Includes those on this board, I personally dont believe Any of them when they say they didn't vote for him
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carmenjonze wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 12:10 pm There are so many cases not just simply of "police misconduct" but "police misconduct" that results in death and a free pass on continued injustice. This thread is on the continuing news stories that we covered on RFL 1.0, mostly in Stop Calling the Cops on Us and the Fires in Minneapolis thread.

Judge says 'there appears to be intentional discrimination' in Arbery jury selection, but allows trial to move forward with 1 Black juror - CNN



The county is 25% Black.

And, yet.

This is how white supremacism works. This is exactly how white supremacism works.
Here is one from the Detroit region where the prosecutor at the time explained their reasoning about not charging security guards for killing a man.

Death of young black man at the hands of white mall security should be prosecuted, says family attorney
Cooper wrote a lengthy email to 7 Action News yesterday:

...... Your questions seem to imply that I should reconsider the very painstaking decision to not charge the civilian mall security with a crime, in light of Mr. Floyd's death and the "shift in public perception”. My job is to seek justice. The facts in Mr. Cochran's case have not changed.

There are nuances that are getting lost in this six year old case. These were not police officers, they were minimum wage, untrained civilian security with absolutely no experience in arresting or detaining people.........
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“If Everybody’s White, There Can’t Be Any Racial Bias”: The Disappearance of Hispanic Drivers From Traffic Records - ProPublica
In Louisiana, law enforcement agencies have been accused of targeting Hispanic drivers in traffic stops and identifying them as white on tickets. Misidentification makes it impossible to track racial bias, experts say.
Let's hope the allegations aren't true.
When sheriff’s deputies in Jefferson Parish, Louisiana, pulled over Octavio Lopez for an expired inspection tag in 2018, they wrote on his traffic ticket that he is white. Lopez, who is from Nicaragua, is Hispanic and speaks only Spanish, said his wife.

In fact, of the 167 tickets issued by deputies to drivers with the last name Lopez over a nearly six-year span, not one of the motorists was labeled as Hispanic, according to records provided by the Jefferson Parish clerk of court. The same was true of the 252 tickets issued to people with the last name of Rodriguez, 234 named Martinez, 223 with the last name Hernandez and 189 with the surname Garcia.

This kind of misidentification is widespread — and not without harm. Across America, law enforcement agencies have been accused of targeting Hispanic drivers, failing to collect data on those traffic stops, and covering up potential officer misconduct and aggressive immigration enforcement by identifying people as white on tickets.

“If everybody’s white, there can’t be any racial bias,” Frank Baumgartner, a political science professor at the University of North Carolina of Chapel Hill, told WWNO/WRKF and ProPublica.

Nationally, states have tried to patch this data loophole and tighten controls against racial profiling. In recent years, legislators have passed widely hailed traffic stop data-collection laws in California, Colorado, Illinois, Oregon, Virginia and Washington, D.C. This April, Alabama became the 22nd state to enact similar legislation.
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I'm quite sure those allegations are true Carmen, prepare to be upset.

:|

That's a goofy article, it sounds to me like the article's author is ignorant and doesn't realize that the Louisiana law enforcement agencies are following the U.S. federal government agency standards issued by the Office of Management and Budget, and of the US Census Bureau in how they should fill out their police forms. I bet the California highway patrol does it the same. I bet my county does it the same too.


If they are identifying persons as White, Black, Asian, etc. in their police forms, then they are filling in a question blank about race and the appropriate answers would be White, Black, Asian, ect.

if Hispanic were an appropriate answer then that question blank would not be about race it would be about ethnicity, and the appropriate range of answers would be Hispanic or not Hispanic. One or the other.

Most Hispanics that I know are White, they will get really upset if one calls them Black or Asian, but a few are Black, and some are Asian.

So nothing weird is happening here, except you and that author doesn't seem to realize that Hispanic or Latino is not describable as a race. People are of a race and are either ethnic Hispanic, or they are not ethnic Hispanic. So the police would need a second blank if they wanted to write down if people wanted to be regarded as being either Hispanic or not Hispanic.

Maybe all they want to know about is about peoples race and they don't want to know if someone is Hispanic or Not.

The Census Bureau is really nosey, they ask two separate questions, one about race, and another about Hispanic or Not Hispanic, for which they allow 5 answers and a fill in blank to answer, but they are 5 ether Hispanic or fill in blank or not Hispanic answers none the less.

:|

I'm currently Pink under "other race" and are not Hispanic so I don't have to worry about that 5. Not unless I'm in the mood that year to be Hispanic. Some year I'm going to change things and tell them that I'm Green under "other race" fill in blank. I'm saving that for later.

:)

So what are you?


Everything I said is true, here's a link and blurb proving that it's true: https://www.census.gov/topics/populatio ... about.html
U.S. federal government agencies must adhere to standards issued by the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), which specify that race and Hispanic origin (also known as ethnicity) are two separate and distinct concepts. These standards generally reflect a social definition of race and ethnicity recognized in this country, and they do not conform to any biological, anthropological, or genetic criteria. The standards include two minimum categories for data on ethnicity: "Hispanic or Latino" and "Not Hispanic or Latino." Persons who report themselves as Hispanic can be of any race and are identified as such in our data tables.


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Don't ask me why they ever started keeping track of this Hispanic or Not. But it's what they do. This is just a guess but it might have something to do with Columbus Day. But I don't know why.
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Today in White-conservative Social Confusion:
sam lefthand wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 1:03 am So nothing weird is happening here, except you and that author doesn't seem to realize that Hispanic or Latino is not describable as a race.
Never said it was.
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carmenjonze wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 1:22 am Today in White-conservative Social Confusion:



Never said it was.
So 80% of the police departments get it wrong, but Louisiana and 20% of police departments across the US get it right.

I would imagine that if someone in California told a cop they were a "Boa Constrictor" when the cop asked them what is their race, that the cop would write that down on the ticket.

:D

That's the kind of answer I might give. And if I were a cop I would write it down as the answer.
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sam lefthand wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 1:42 am
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Police Use of Force and Misconduct in California - Public Policy Institute of California
Key Takeaways

Over the past decade, the high-profile deaths of civilians—especially Black civilians—at the hands of law enforcement have heightened public scrutiny over policing and created momentum for state reforms. In this report, we examine the available data to provide a baseline understanding of police use of force and misconduct in California. While most use-of-force incidents are not considered misconduct, civilian fatalities and injuries—particularly of unarmed individuals—can nevertheless harm the public’s trust in law enforcement. All parties should be aligned in accurately documenting these incidents and reducing their frequency.

• About 195 people die each year from interactions with California law enforcement. Gunshots are by far the most common cause of death: nearly 250 people are shot by police each year. →

• Vehicle and pedestrian stops account for about 15 percent of police encounters in which a civilian is seriously injured or killed. →

• More than four in ten people treated for non-fatal gunshot wounds from a police encounter were diagnosed with a mental health condition, an alcohol- or substance-related disorder, or both. →

• In about 80 percent of encounters resulting in death or a gunshot wound, the civilian was armed with a weapon, underscoring the risky environments officers face. However, when we also consider civilians who sustained other serious injuries, 56 percent were unarmed. →

• Black Californians are about three times more likely to be seriously injured, shot, or killed by the police relative to their share of the state’s population. These racial disparities narrow after controlling for contextual factors (e.g., the reason for the interaction), but continue to persist. →

• Of the over 78,000 law enforcement officers in California, about 80 are arrested each year; assault is the most common reason for arrest. Data on arrested officers do not capture the full range of police misconduct. →

• Improving existing data sources will be vital to shed more light on police use of force and misconduct in California. →
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carmenjonze wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:04 amtroll
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sam lefthand wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:03 am
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