Astonishing. GOP Senator wants SC to overturn interracial marriage, right to contraception

[gounion]

Wow, when they tell you what they're made of, believe them:

U.S. Sen. Mike Braun, R-Ind., would welcome the U.S. Supreme Court rescinding its 1967 ruling that legalized interracial marriage nationwide in favor of allowing each of the 50 states to decide such issues on its own.

Speaking Tuesday on a conference call with Indiana reporters, the Hoosier senator unambiguously declared his belief that many of the high court's key civil rights decisions of the past 70 years were wrongly decided and an improper usurpation of states' rights.

Braun initially limited his claim to the national right to abortion established by the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision he hopes the current, more conservative, Supreme Court will overturn in coming months when it rules in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization.

But, when asked by The Times, Braun admitted there are many Supreme Court decisions he believes improperly established federal rights that would be better handled on a state-by-state basis, including Loving v. Virginia that legalized interracial marriage, and Griswold v. Connecticut (1965) establishing a right to privacy concerning contraceptive use./quote]

Oh, and it gets better:
It looks like he later tried to walk it back, but you can't walk that back.
In short, bullshit. This is what conservatives REALLY think, and what they'd do if given the power to.

We'll see how he votes on the Supreme Court nominee.

[Libertas]

He is NOT alone.

BTW, are we prepared for Nov when the GOP refuses to certify any election they lose in a red state?

When, not if, this happens, watch the cons here defend it.

Remember when i said Trump would have his opponents and us killed if he could and a certain con here went nuts at how wrong I was?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... ie-grisham

Trump ‘admired’ Putin’s ability to ‘kill whoever’, says Stephanie Grisham

[carmenjonze]

As I've said many times, these people are going for Griswold v. Connecticut so they can get the government back into everyone's bedrooms.

Strike down Griswold, and there goes Loving, there goes Roe, there goes Obergefell, at least to their minds.

The goal of these conservative whites is re-establishing whites-rule authoritarianism in every facet of private life, including the bedroom and the doctor's office. They've never gotten over Griswold.

I wish them luck with that. They will need it.

[gounion]

Another thread all the conservatives won’t touch. Too gutless when the mask is taken off their real agenda.

[carmenjonze]

Another thread all the conservatives won’t touch. Too gutless when the mask is taken off their real agenda.

Yes their real agenda is re-legislated racism, re-legislated misogyny, forced economic injustice, and restrictions on social mobility in all aspects of society

Except for themselves…Gods Favorites.

[carmenjonze]

Conservative dehumanization of pregnant people is in full force, full steam ahead.

Their hope is that accused attempted rapist guy, do-nothing Thurgood Marshall token replacement, and willing breeder woman will uphold this state-based reproductive authoritarianism.

Thread.
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ACLU
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BREAKING: The Oklahoma House has approved a total abortion ban that can be enforced by private citizens.

If approved by the Senate and signed into law, this ban would take effect immediately.

It's a dark moment for Oklahomans' ability to control their own bodies and futures.

https://twitter.com/aclu/status/1506424 ... 62440?s=21

[carmenjonze]

Related:

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[carmenjonze]

One thing I just find out: KBJ is in an “interracial marriage.”

Wonder what Eva Braun (R - KKK State) thinks of Justice Thomas’s marriage. :problem:

This so-called question was really just a petty dig by another white-conservative extremist ideologue.

[ProfX]

This is the school she sends her kids to, that Ted Cruz was grilling her about, as if Ketanji hand picks every book in the school library.

Black-Jewish civil rights alliance brought up in Supreme Court confirmation hearing
Biden’s nominee Ketanji Brown Jackson says ‘the idea of equality — justice — is at the core’ of her children’s school, which was founded by Jewish families
https://www.timesofisrael.com/black-jew ... n-hearing/

Ted seems to have a problem with Ibram X. Kendi's books, for some reason he brought blow up graphics of their illustrations to the hearings, then asked Ketanji questions about them that really show he doesn't even get the books, I doubt he understands the drawings.

But again, as with all the other nonsense, ... if Ted had a problem with Kendi's books, maybe he ought to address the author, Ketanji didn't write them.

[Glennfs]

Another day another liberal lie. He almost immediately walked back the statement. Apologized for misspeaking.
But don't let that stop you folks from telling the big lie and don't forget if you repeat it enough....

[carmenjonze]

Another day another liberal lie. He almost immediately walked back the statement.

The OP said as much. So what. He has no business even floating this idea at all. The goal is poisoning the well.

Apologized for misspeaking.

Conservative whites don’t “misspeak” about getting rid of Loving. Only people like you are dishonest enough to even buy that old hat trick.

But don't let that stop you folks from telling the big lie and don't forget if you repeat it enough....

The only reason Loving v Virginia and Griswold are needed at all is due to centuries of your white supremacist big government laws and
your white supremacist authoritarian policies.

[Number6]

Another day another liberal lie. He almost immediately walked back the statement. Apologized for misspeaking.
But don't let that stop you folks from telling the big lie and don't forget if you repeat it enough....

Per the OP link:

Braun later walked back his comments by claiming he misunderstood the question, despite the question being asked multiple times in different ways to ensure Braun meant and understood what he said concerning interracial marriage.

No, he didn't misunderstand the question; he answered it truthfully being against interracial marriage as well as being for prohibiting use of contraceptives.

[carmenjonze]

Being a flagrant, dishonest white supremacist, Glennfs is always going to defend white supremacist behavior, ideologies, and laws.

He doesn’t have to, but he chooses to.

[ProfX]

No, he didn't misunderstand the question; he answered it truthfully being against interracial marriage as well as being for prohibiting use of contraceptives.

Overturning Griswold would not only endanger Roe and access to contraceptives, but it also would pretty much end any Constitutional right to privacy, which again, as the court said in 1965, is not explicitly enumerated in the Constitution, but IS implied by it.

As I said, even if Braun mis-spoke, he still faces the same question. If he really does buy into this "states rights" conception that Federal courts shouldn't tell states what to do on gay marriage, then why was the court right in Loving vs. Virginia, in telling states what to do about inter-racial marriage. His same bogus argument on Obgerfell could also apply to Loving vs. VA. (Except it's wrong in both cases.)

[carmenjonze]

Overturning Griswold would not only endanger Roe and access to contraceptives, but it also would pretty much end any Constitutional right to privacy, which again, as the court said in 1965, is not explicitly enumerated in the Constitution, but IS implied by it.

As I said, even if Braun mis-spoke, he still faces the same question. If he really does buy into this "states rights" conception that Federal courts shouldn't tell states what to do on gay marriage, then why was the court right in Loving vs. Virginia, in telling states what to do about inter-racial marriage. His same bogus argument on Obgerfell could also apply to Loving vs. VA. (Except it's wrong in both cases.)

States rights conservative whites really just want government-forced, whites-rule conformity from everyone. Starting with the women and children of their own creepy families.

That's all they care about.

With their sights on Griswold, their sights are also on re-establishing Plessy.

[gounion]

Another day another liberal lie. He almost immediately walked back the statement. Apologized for misspeaking.
But don't let that stop you folks from telling the big lie and don't forget if you repeat it enough....

Oh, you are the biggest hypocrite YET. This was no misstatement, no bad choice of words. He was extensively questioned about it - and he said that yes, he wanted the Supreme Court to knock down all three decisions.

But you're the one that has just in the past few days posted about Biden's statements about Obama being "clean" and about rich and poor kids.

Which WERE misstatements, and not racist statements.

As always, one set of rules for your side, where you pretend this wasn't meant, while you've banged away at Biden for years for one inartful statement from Biden.

Either you admit that we have a point here, or you never bring up Biden's statements again.

[Libertas]

Oh, you are the biggest hypocrite YET. This was no misstatement, no bad choice of words. He was extensively questioned about it - and he said that yes, he wanted the Supreme Court to knock down all three decisions.

But you're the one that has just in the past few days posted about Biden's statements about Obama being "clean" and about rich and poor kids.

Which WERE misstatements, and not racist statements.

As always, one set of rules for your side, where you pretend this wasn't meant, while you've banged away at Biden for years for one inartful statement from Biden.

Either you admit that we have a point here, or you never bring up Biden's statements again.

If board con says he believes it was a misstatement, board con has lost all credibility in the truth department for the rest of it's life.

Said con is willing to ignore the truth no matter how many people are harmed.

[ProfX]

Here's the massive irony: if Loving vs. Virginia was overturned, then Clarence & Ginny Thomas could be in an illegal marriage. (Would depend on the state, of course.)

BTW, I have my issues with both of them, but not that they are racially inter-married.

But look - this is the point that gets lost - whether or not he backtracked on Loving, he doubled down on Griswold. If Griswold vs. CT is overturned, first off that imperils Roe, which cited it as precedent, but more importantly ... yes, it could become illegal to buy contraception in certain states again, and more importantly, it would overturn what the Court said is (IMHO) the more important part of the decision -- that Americans have a right to privacy which is implied by the Constitution (if not explicitly enumerated). Losing the right to privacy could affect more than just contraception.

BTW -- this is not entirely new -- Alito has several times written briefs and other things suggesting he questions the Griswold decision.

[Libertas]

Here's the massive irony: if Loving vs. Virginia was overturned, then Clarence & Ginny Thomas could be in an illegal marriage. (Would depend on the state, of course.)

BTW, I have my issues with both of them, but not that they are racially inter-married.

But look - this is the point that gets lost - whether or not he backtracked on Loving, he doubled down on Griswold. If Griswold vs. CT is overturned, first off that imperils Roe, which cited it as precedent, but more importantly ... yes, it could become illegal to buy contraception in certain states again, and more importantly, it would overturn what the Court said is (IMHO) the more important part of the decision -- that Americans have a right to privacy which is implied by the Constitution (if not explicitly enumerated). Losing the right to privacy could affect more than just contraception.

BTW -- this is not entirely new -- Alito has several times written briefs and other things suggesting he questions the Griswold decision.

Good one.

I am very close family wise to a trump loving narcissist who is also really stupid. This person became incensed at Women in line at the store with food stamps, one month after she/he herself/himself had been on food stamps for 3 yrs. This person is all for laws that hurt people as long as it wont hurt her/him.

I wont disclose gender because cons will use this info to hurt me if they can.

[carmenjonze]

Let’s all keep in mind that a white conservative Republican lawmaker wants interracial marriage to once again be decided by the states and that the federal government has no say in it.

This is the classic Confederacy view of the federal government since the antebellum period and it’s current to the minute in JoeMemphis, Glennfs, Bludogdem, the alt right, Charlottesville, CPAC, GOP, RNC, and the Jan. 6 people.

[Libertas]

Let’s all keep in mind that a white conservative Republican lawmaker wants interracial marriage to once again be decided by the states and that the federal government has no say in it.

This is the classic Confederacy view of the federal government since the antebellum period and it’s current to the minute in JoeMemphis, Glennfs, Bludogdem, the alt right, Charlottesville, CPAC, GOP, RNC, and the Jan. 6 people.

Like my family member, any law that does not directly effect those folks you list, they will either be all for it or they will not care.

They will lie about it here if they say they support any rights other than their own. How do we know they are lying? Look who they vote for.

[carmenjonze]

But again, as with all the other nonsense, ... if Ted had a problem with Kendi's books, maybe he ought to address the author, Ketanji didn't write them.

He probably thinks they're the same person.

We all look alike, to conservative whites.

[carmenjonze]

How do we know they are lying? Look who they vote for.

[marindem01]

Loving vs Virginia is Black Letter Law. It's alright to visit Slave Row at night.....but getting is down right unnatural.

[carmenjonze]

Loving vs Virginia is Black Letter Law. It's alright to visit Slave Row at night.....but getting is down right unnatural.

Conservative whites, especially the males, have had such struggles with their perverted sexuality, poor dears.

They consider us animals until it's rapeytime, which would mean they're into beasiality. :problem:

What's worse is they do it to the white women and children, first, long before they start looking at us. The truly sad part is that our mothers, grandmothers, great grandmothers, etc., had to find a way to reassure themselves that these rapists were human beings, since they were forced to carry the kids.

Then they call us the oversexed perverts, blame the Black men for the mixed-race babies, and trot out the white women and their tears to implement Jim Crow.

They want to go back to the government forcing the victims of their rapist culture to once again carry to term.

How many centuries has this been going on.