Climate Change - Extreme Weather

[Drak]

Extreme weather.

We haven’t had rain up here in the PNW zone in quite some time. Constant barrage of poor air quality due to forest fires happening all over the place. It gets worst every year. It’s already mid October. We need rain.

Last year in winter we had extreme flooding that wiped out major roads.

[Number6]

We're in the same situation here, in Southern California, regarding rain. Our new rain season began on October 1st and all we've had was a drizzle of rain (.01 inches) the other day. I don't expect us to get much rain this year either but who knows. The one thing we're fortunate for is we don't have much in the way of wildfires/grass fires.

[ProfX]

And so it continues ... those who are contributing the least to the problem, are often suffering the most.

Nigeria floods: 'Overwhelming' disaster leaves more than 600 people dead
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-63280518

Recent flooding in Nigeria has become an "overwhelming" disaster, and many states were not properly prepared for them despite warnings, the minister for disaster management has said.
More than 600 people have died in the worst flooding the West African nation has seen in a decade.
Some 1.3 million people have been displaced, and more than 200,000 homes have been destroyed.
Flooding is expected to continue until the end of November.
Nigeria is used to seasonal flooding, but this year has been significantly worse than usual.
The government has said unusually heavy rains and climate change are to blame.

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[Drak]

It’s another bad air quality day. The air smells toxic. Surrounded by wild fires from Washington and BC. it’s mid Oct and we’re still having summer weather. Still no rain.

[Drak]

Drought or flood. Take your pick. After experiencing one of the longest droughts in history here, that went through October, we’re now back to storms, atmospheric rivers and more potential flooding.

[Number6]

Expect more extreme weather events. IMO, we crossed the tipping point on climate change years ago and now humans all around the world will have to adapt.

[Drak]

Expect more extreme weather events. IMO, we crossed the tipping point on climate change years ago and now humans all around the world will have to adapt.

Supply chains, food shortages. All going to get worse and worse.

[ZoWie]

The first effects seen in any transition of a chaotic system to a new state of temporary equilibrium are wild fluctuations. We're getting those.

Since it doesn't rain in the southwestern US any more, and it seems to be due to a La Nina which shows no sign of changing even three years in, I'd hazard a guess that we're seeing one of them right there.

Maybe it'll stabilize in that state and the western US will desiccate, the way the Sahara did. Don't know yet. No way to know. Just as likely, it'll transition to something completely unexpected, and perhaps even worse.

Scared yet?

[Libertas]

Supply chains, food shortages. All going to get worse and worse.

And GOP PROMISES to reverse ANY and ALL actions that help resolve global warming.

They are RUNNING on doing that and near half the country will VOTE for them, we have one right here on this board who PROUDLY said he voted a straight GOP ticket.

HE WANTS climate change to kill people.

[ZoWie]

I'm not altogether sure that getting rid of most manufacturing in the US was a good idea regardless of the climate situation and the war in Ukraine. The supply chain issues are worse because globalization brought in many new variables to cause problems. It would have been nice to have a fallback, but that's not how business operates.

[Libertas]

I'm not altogether sure that getting rid of most manufacturing in the US was a good idea regardless of the climate situation and the war in Ukraine. The supply chain issues are worse because globalization brought in many new variables to cause problems. It would have been nice to have a fallback, but that's not how business operates.

It wasnt done to prevent global warming impact here, it was done to make rich people richer. Maybe you are not implying that. Maybe I misread you.

Yes, letting rich people send tens of millions of jobs overseas was never a good idea. Some of it was necessary and inevitable but not this much.

[ZoWie]

Of course it wasn't done because of climate change, which was barely even talked about when the changes happened. They happened in the Ray Gun era of the 1980s when big business interests saw to it that outsourcing and relaxed government controls plus massive tax breaks would indeed make the rich richer. Ronzo was their boy. He had been since the SAG thing. It made his career. He never met a transnational corporation that he didn't like.

The worst thing about the 80s was this worship of money, which led right to the current issues with robber barons, price gouging, maldistributed wealth, and supply chain disruptions every time a boat hits the side of a canal or some dictator we're supposed to take seriously starts a war.

[ProfX]

The Green New Deal is about bringing manufacturing back to the U.S. The question is what we should be making.

Hopefully, more solar panels, wind turbines, electric cars, and renewable energy infrastructure; and less fossil fuels and disposable toxic tech.

Also, we hope it's being built by humans paid living union scale wages ... not robots and AIs.

As for globalization, it's a mixed bag. The problem is the multinational corps. are allowed to globalize, but migrants are not allowed to follow.

[ZoWie]

The professor is correct in his analysis of the problem that goods and capital move freely, but people don't. That's one reason why globalization is a sham. We don't really globalize anything except tax evasion and labor exploitation. The whole Battle in Seattle was about this.

It is also correct that "building back better" should benefit more timely businesses related to current issues, not just bringing back steel mills and oil consumption.