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Time to Take a Knee - North Carolina Council of Churches

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It has been nearly fourteen months since Colin Kaepernick first knelt during the playing of the Star Spangled Banner prior to the start of his team’s games. The decision not to stand during the national anthem, as he has repeatedly stated, was in response to the on-going epidemic of police brutality and the inequality that he and other people of color experience in our country on a daily basis.

Last week at a rally in Alabama, the president called Mr. Kaepernick, and other professional football players who have since joined the protest, a vulgar name and encouraged the owners of the teams to fire them. But he did something else that night as well. He took control of the narrative and completely flipped it, leading a significant portion of our country to believe that these players were kneeling in protest of our national anthem, the flag, and the men and women serving in our military.

This was never about any of that, but it is very telling that so many people have misinterpreted football players protesting inequality and racism as football players protesting America.


Well, the misunderstanding is deliberate, historical, generational, and part of what American culture is.

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Editor’s Note: On October 30, 2017, pastor and anti-Trump author Jonathan Martin was escorted off Liberty University by armed campus police officers. He was banned for life from Liberty University for planning a prayer meeting and opposing Liberty’s president, Jerry Falwell, Jr., who has been an outspoken supporter of President Trump.

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An Open Letter to Liberty University to ‘Engage in Peaceful Debate’

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Dear Jerry Falwell, Jr.,

We know you did not intend to make national news this week by sending armed officers to escort the Rev. Jonathan Martin off of Liberty University’s campus. You have been clear about your support for President Trump. Rev. Martin has made clear his opposition. But this fundamental disagreement, you insist, is not why Martin was barred. “The University cannot be concerned with whether its actions provide additional oxygen to either side of a debate,” your official statement said. Your only concern, you insist, is the “safety and security” of your campus.

Despite the fact that Liberty University could not exist without federal loans and grants, it is a private institution. You have the legal authority to use its police force to stifle dissent. But you say this is not your intent: “Members of the Liberty community are always welcome to engage in peaceful debate,” you wrote. Though you might prefer to asphyxiate a prophetic Christianity that criticizes your personal political positions, you understand it is not in your interest to do so.

We write, then, to ask you to make good on your promise. If you are not opposed to a debate, then host one.

As fellow ministers of the gospel of Jesus Christ, we disagree with your celebration of Donald Trump as a “dream President” for evangelicals. Along with a majority of Americans, we experience his administration as more of a nightmare. But our disagreement is not about personality; rather, we see the stark divergence in our discernment about politics as a reflection of fundamental differences in how we understand the gospel of Jesus Christ. From Isaiah 58 to Luke 4 and Matthew 25, the God who is revealed in Jesus Christ speaks prophetically against false religion that props up injustice.

This divide is not new. It is as old as the many denominations that split over the abolition of slavery in the 19th century. As Frederick Douglass wrote in the midst of those divisions, “Between the Christianity of the slaveholder and the Christianity of Christ I see the widest possible difference.” In the 19th century, this basic divide led people like Angelina Grimke and William Lloyd Garrison to part ways with slaveholding religion in order to keep their faith. In the 20th century, Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel argued that we forfeit the right to worship God if we do not stand with the marginalized and oppressed. We contend that the greatest threat to Christianity in the 21st century is that our Lord’s gospel would be confused with the religion of white supremacy. In our estimation, you and others who see the Trump administration as a Redemption movement are contributing to just such a conflation.............

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Faith leaders arrested as major religious groups rally against the GOP tax reform bill - Think Progress

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“As people of faith, we view decisions about tax policy and the federal budget as moral decisions,” the letter reads in part. “Simply put, this proposed legislation is fundamentally unjust. If it becomes law, it will result in harmful consequences for those most needing support so as to the benefit high-income earners and big corporations.”

Signers included Simone Campbell, Catholic nun and head of the Catholic social justice lobby NETWORK; Bishop Thomas Gumbleton of the Archdiocese of Detroit; Bishop Robert T. Hoshibata of the Desert Southwest Conference of the United Methodist Church; Rabbi Jason Kimelman-Block of Bend the Arc Jewish Action; and Colin Christopher of the Islamic Society of North America, among many others.

Faith advocates also hosted a demonstration at the U.S. Senate building Thursday morning to protest the legislation. Jim Wallis, head of Christian social justice group Sojourners, and Barbara Williams Skinner, of the National African American Clergy Network, joined a group of pastors as they prayed and read scripture that condemns unjust rulers.

“This bill is an assault on the poor and vulnerable we are sworn to protect,” Wallis said at the event.


Meanwhile, a slew of conservative Evangelical white 81%ers are preparing to elect a known child molester who thinks homosexuality should be a criminal offense, to the US Senate.

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Valarie Kaur is a filmmaker, civil rights lawyer, and founder of the Groundswell Movement, and the Revolutionary Love Project. I know a couple people involved in this.

This is from February, but it's about Christmas Eve. Really good sermon, at what appears to be Rev. Barber's church.

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More about this story about "Hindu peril" - https://www.saada.org/tides/article/20140616-3592

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Reverend Barber talks about this in his book "The Third Reconstruction: Moral Mondays, Fusion Politics, and the Rise of a New Justice Movement".

Rev. Barber & Ex-Page to Segregationist Strom Thurmond Unite to Launch New Poor People’s Campaign
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As the nation prepares to mark Martin Luther King Day next week, modern day civil rights leaders have launched a new Poor People’s Campaign, inspired by the historic 1968 action led by King and the Southern Christian Leadership Conference. In the coming months, organizers are planning six weeks of direct action at statehouses across the country and the U.S. Capitol to call attention to systemic racism, poverty, the war economy and ecological devastation. For more, we speak with Reverend William Barber, president and senior lecturer of Repairers of the Breach. He’s the leader of Moral Mondays and the author of “Third Reconstruction: Moral Mondays, Fusion Politics, and the Rise of a New Justice Movement.” We also speak with Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove, evangelical minister and director of the School for Conversion in Durham, North Carolina. He is author of the upcoming book, “Reconstructing the Gospel: Finding Freedom from Slaveholder Religion.” Wilson-Hartgrove grew up as a white Southern Baptist, and he served as a page for the late South Carolina Senator Strom Thurmond, a fierce foe of the civil rights movement and supporter of segregation. Wilson-Hartgrove’s political transformation began after hearing William Barber preach.

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Rev. Barber is busy these days. I have a couple friends who are gonna be at this.

Bernie Sanders, William Barber in Conversation Jan. 19 at Duke Chapel - Duke Today

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The public conversation is part of Duke’s 2018 Martin Luther King, Jr. Commemoration and Duke Chapel’s Bridge Panel series, which seeks to connect people from disparate walks of life in order to discover shared pathways toward the beloved community of God.

“In joining with others to begin organizing the Poor People’s Campaign 50 years ago, Dr. King was working out of a Christian conviction that racial equity, economic justice and peace among nations were interrelated issues -- and all matters of faith,” Powery said. “Through this public conversation, we have an opportunity to bring together the insights of a preacher and a politician on the present-day work toward a just, moral economy.”

Barber is a national co-chair of the Poor People’s Campaign: A National Call for Moral Revival, an initiative that aims to address issues of systemic racism, poverty, the war economy, ecological devastation and the nation’s morality. He is also the president and senior lecturer of Repairers of the Breach, a nonprofit organization that seeks to build a moral agenda. An alumnus of Duke Divinity School, Barber is the pastor of Greenleaf Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) in Goldsboro, North Carolina.

Sanders is an Independent senator from Vermont. His 2016 campaign for the Democratic nomination for president focused on policy issues that included universal health care, free tuition at public universities and a $15-per-hour minimum wage. He was first elected to public office in 1981 as mayor of Burlington, Vermont, and has since served 16 years in the U.S. House of Representatives and 11 years in the U.S. Senate.

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And we can’t get it twisted as we consider strategies for resistance. Trump didn’t win in November simply because he appealed to the “white working class.” I’m not saying the economic pain of white folks isn’t real. I’m just saying they’re not alone. Poor white people are hurting just like poor black people and poor brown people. And the wealthiest cabinet in this nation’s history is taking power because we let Trumpism get away with pitting poor white people against poor people of color.

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When politicians tell Democrats they lose because of identity politics — that is, because we focus on issues affecting black and brown people — and some Democrats believe it rather than saying, “Yes, we believe in identifying rather ignoring the hurting, the oppressed, and the poor,” we have much more than a class problem.

We need the fire of a political Pentecost to illuminate the connections between race and class in America. Whenever someone asks, “Is it race or is it class?” we need to say, “Yes.”


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And we can’t get it twisted as we consider strategies for resistance. Trump didn’t win in November simply because he appealed to the “white working class.” I’m not saying the economic pain of white folks isn’t real. I’m just saying they’re not alone. Poor white people are hurting just like poor black people and poor brown people. And the wealthiest cabinet in this nation’s history is taking power because we let Trumpism get away with pitting poor white people against poor people of color.

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When politicians tell Democrats they lose because of identity politics — that is, because we focus on issues affecting black and brown people — and some Democrats believe it rather than saying, “Yes, we believe in identifying rather ignoring the hurting, the oppressed, and the poor,” we have much more than a class problem.

We need the fire of a political Pentecost to illuminate the connections between race and class in America. Whenever someone asks, “Is it race or is it class?” we need to say, “Yes.”


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Amen, Brother Barber.

The area of your post that I highlighted is crucial. Race has been used as a class warfare tool in this country for centuries. LBJ knew it as did/do many others. Give the oppressed a target and they will hurl their invective against that target instead of against their oppressors. Oppressed people of color knew and understood who their oppressors were/are. Poor white trash, yes, I used that terminology deliberately, fell for the "temporarily embarrassed millionaire" fallacy as they saw other whites succeeding while they were left behind. The oppressors saw this, likely feared retribution and thus gave the trash the target of racism.

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I understand you used it as a figure of speech, but like Carmen says, nobody is trash.

So can we finally get rid of this bullshit idea that we need to "win back" the "white working class".

No, the so-called white working class needs to understand one damn thing: there is only one the working class, it IS true they are getting ground down in this country, and there's nothing special about the white folks in it. They are not losing out to black or brown people, and don't deserve more than they do, and are not somehow being victimized by nonwhites.

I am sick and fucking tired of people saying the way for Democrats to win is to join the bullshitters in bullshitting people.

J.D. Vance, Mr. Hillbilly Elegy, is now being recruited to run for Congress. No, not as a Democrat.

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/36 ... senate-run

Mitch is trying to recruit him to run for the GOP as a Senator from Ohio.

Why not, he always sounded like a conservative to me anyway, even as people told me he held some mystical insight into this so-called "white working class".

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I understand you used it as a figure of speech, but like Carmen says, nobody is trash.

So can we finally get rid of this bullshit idea that we need to "win back" the "white working class".

No, the so-called white working class needs to understand one damn thing: there is only one the working class, it IS true they are getting ground down in this country, and there's nothing special about the white folks in it. They are not losing out to black or brown people, and don't deserve more than they do, and are not somehow being victimized by nonwhites.

I am sick and fucking tired of people saying the way for Democrats to win is to join the bullshitters in bullshitting people.

J.D. Vance, Mr. Hillbilly Elegy, is now being recruited to run for Congress. No, not as a Democrat.

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/36 ... senate-run

Mitch is trying to recruit him to run for the GOP as a Senator from Ohio.

Why not, he always sounded like a conservative to me anyway, even as people told me he held some mystical insight into this so-called "white working class".

Can we get rid of it? I doubt it. I agree completely with your statements but it is an agitprop term, which you know. Conditions people find themselves in can be due to circumstances beyond their control which, again, we know. From creative destruction to controlling costs via suppressing wages labor consistently finds themselves attacked. Collective bargaining, group action, gave labor a countervailing force. Government gave labor a countervailing force. Which was all well and good. But capital by constantly promoting American mythology and the virtually non-existent "rugged individual" in media and in the education system created a labor class that looked at themselves and said "I am working hard. what aren't I succeeding?". Racism was used to explain this "failure" in order that individuals not see that the very system they were a part of was crushing them. Then we have the last 40 years of idiot economic theology. Now American mythology touts that everyone must work on their "brand", everyone can be an entrepreneur. The truth is that Branding is bullshit and very few people can be successful small business people. The gig economy will crush labor even worse than what they have experienced so far.

So what, if anything, can be done about it? That would take what you have put forth: communitarian action and a communitarian political economy. On a side note to Glen, no, nobody said the dreaded "socialism" word. It would be sharing and working together. There may be hope down the road but imo it will take several conditions to occur. The first condition will be the complete dying off of the baby boomers. The second will require legislation aimed at communitarian practices. It will be a long process. Of course climate change may render the entire thing moot.

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Dozens of Jewish activists arrested at protest urging Congress to protect ‘Dreamers’
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WASHINGTON (JTA) — Police in the U.S. Capitol arrested some 100 Jewish activists, many of them clergy, who protested in a Senate office building on behalf of a bill that would protect illegal immigrants who arrived as children.

Several dozen of the activists from the Reform movement, the Anti-Defamation League, Bend the Arc, T’ruah and other Jewish groups sat in concentric circles on Wednesday in the Rotunda of the Russell Senate Office Building until they were removed by police. They sang protest songs in Hebrew and English.

The demonstrators demanded the passage of a bill that would protect the so-called “Dreamers.” President Donald Trump removed executive orders put in place by his predecessor, Barack Obama, to protect the Dreamers from deportation.

Trump said he is ready to endorse a measure that restores the protections as long as it includes new restrictions on legal immigration. Democrats are ready to countenance some restrictions, including money for a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border, but are resisting others — for instance, an end to “chain migration,” which allows new immigrants to sponsor immediate family for immigration.

Senators who back the “Dreamers” who stopped by the protest included Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., who posted film of the Jewish protesters on his Facebook page; Dick Durbin, D-Ill., the second-ranked Democrat, who is leading negotiations with Republicans and the White House on the issue; and Patrick Leahy, D-Vt. Also greeting the protesters were Jewish Reps. Ted Deutch and Debbie Wasserman Schultz, both Florida Democrats. Deutch posted photos of the protesters on his Twitter feed.

“For all of the activists today, this is a matter of principle and a matter of core Jewish identity and core American identity,” Barbara Weinstein, the associate director of the Religious Action Center, said in an interview. “We shall not be moved.”

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Dozens of Jewish activists arrested at protest urging Congress to protect ‘Dreamers’
https://www.jta.org/2018/01/17/news-opi ... t-dreamers

WASHINGTON (JTA) — Police in the U.S. Capitol arrested some 100 Jewish activists, many of them clergy, who protested in a Senate office building on behalf of a bill that would protect illegal immigrants who arrived as children.

Several dozen of the activists from the Reform movement, the Anti-Defamation League, Bend the Arc, T’ruah and other Jewish groups sat in concentric circles on Wednesday in the Rotunda of the Russell Senate Office Building until they were removed by police. They sang protest songs in Hebrew and English.

The demonstrators demanded the passage of a bill that would protect the so-called “Dreamers.” President Donald Trump removed executive orders put in place by his predecessor, Barack Obama, to protect the Dreamers from deportation.

Trump said he is ready to endorse a measure that restores the protections as long as it includes new restrictions on legal immigration. Democrats are ready to countenance some restrictions, including money for a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border, but are resisting others — for instance, an end to “chain migration,” which allows new immigrants to sponsor immediate family for immigration.

Senators who back the “Dreamers” who stopped by the protest included Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., who posted film of the Jewish protesters on his Facebook page; Dick Durbin, D-Ill., the second-ranked Democrat, who is leading negotiations with Republicans and the White House on the issue; and Patrick Leahy, D-Vt. Also greeting the protesters were Jewish Reps. Ted Deutch and Debbie Wasserman Schultz, both Florida Democrats. Deutch posted photos of the protesters on his Twitter feed.

“For all of the activists today, this is a matter of principle and a matter of core Jewish identity and core American identity,” Barbara Weinstein, the associate director of the Religious Action Center, said in an interview. “We shall not be moved.”

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> The first condition will be the complete dying off of the baby boomers.

Speaking of identity politics, that's awfully ageist. It classifies people by generation, and then wants every single person in an age range dead for the crime of being in an age range. Generally, we get in trouble when power takes little classification one-liners like this and implements them for whatever reason. You get death camps, race riots, and gnarly things like that.

Anyway, it's not about age. My college sophomore nephew wants to be a hedge fund manager. He's a candidate for a summer internship at a brokerage. He's gone over to the Dark Side. This, from what I'm told, is far from unique.

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> The first condition will be the complete dying off of the baby boomers.

Speaking of identity politics, that's awfully ageist. It classifies people by generation, and then wants every single person in an age range dead for the crime of being in an age range. Generally, we get in trouble when power takes little classification one-liners like this and implements them for whatever reason. You get death camps, race riots, and gnarly things like that.

Anyway, it's not about age. My college sophomore nephew wants to be a hedge fund manager. He's a candidate for a summer internship at a brokerage. He's gone over to the Dark Side. This, from what I'm told, is far from unique.

Not ageist. I am a boomer. Born in 1956. It seems that boomers produce people like the neocons whoabandoned peace for militarized adventurism as well as entirely too many like your nephew. I simply think boomers were ground zero. I am not proposing a Stalin solution just that boomers will have to be gone. I know that there is no magic to determine who can be an ass based on age. Your nephew underscores this as you note. It does seem that youth are somewhat less tied to the mythological gym as a group but maybe that is a function of youth and people trend to clinging to mythology as they age. I just don’t know.

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It only takes a few assholes to poison a generation, and they all seem about equally capable of creating these. I'd be more inclined to blame the system and the relentless pressure to succeed, which turned young hippies into old capitalists. Also of course we see different people getting the attention at different times. The media always make a big deal out of whoever generates the best copy at a given time.

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> The first condition will be the complete dying off of the baby boomers.

Speaking of identity politics, that's awfully ageist. It classifies people by generation, and then wants every single person in an age range dead for the crime of being in an age range. Generally, we get in trouble when power takes little classification one-liners like this and implements them for whatever reason. You get death camps, race riots, and gnarly things like that.

Anyway, it's not about age. My college sophomore nephew wants to be a hedge fund manager. He's a candidate for a summer internship at a brokerage. He's gone over to the Dark Side. This, from what I'm told, is far from unique.


It's definitely not about age. Once the baby boomers "die off" then we're left with our generation and younger, who are every bit as cutthroat, self-centered, and money/status/things-oriented as the baby boomers are accused of being.

Anyone in doubt can take a look at the techbro twits and consider that they're now procreating all over the place, bearing the boomers great-grandkids every bit as spoiled rotten and entitled as their grandparents' stereotype.

And meanwhile, their grandmas were in the streets yesterday, protesting for the same exact things they protested for when they were in college. That is not all the fault of the boomers....not by any stretch.

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CJ And Z,

Yeah, I get people of any age can be assholes. But when we look at other social issues we expect education to change racism or hatred of gays. Yet that doesn’t happen or at least not on the scale we wish. So what does? The slow dying off of the ideas themselves. At least hopefully. A few people get their minds changed and they don’t teach hatred. A few more people in succeeding generations change their minds and so on. I will be long dead but maybe one day MLK Jr.’s dream will come true.

And, yes, control of the narrative regarding unbridled greed as a good is critical as is lopping off the head of American Exceptionalism.

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This from a bible belt southern pal on another forum...one who knows firsthand:

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There is a reason why much of Americas deepest, most stubborn poverty lies in the Bible Belt. It has everything to do with the way ignorance is worn like a badge of honor and being poor while refusing to ask for help from anyone, is perceived as some sick sort of virtue. If you're the local rich guy who owns local businesses and wants a reliable supply of cheap, docile labor........it works out great. And your generous donations to the local clergy help to keep it that way. They'll make sure the congregation understands that rich guys who own businesses are blessed and sent by God. And therefore, not to be questioned.


The sick, religiously based, historical system of honor and ignorance of the Hatfields and the McCoys remains alive and flourishing in the bible belt.

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Rev. Barber: How We Can Address Racial Inequalities in Handling Drug Addiction

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Drug overdoses kill more than 64,000 people per year, and are now the leading cause of death for Americans under 50. To document the nation’s devastating opioid crisis, TIME sent photographer James Nachtwey and deputy director of photography Paul Moakley across the country to gather stories from the frontlines of the epidemic. The result, The Opioid Diaries, is a visual record of a national emergency and a call to action.

Desmond Tutu, the prophetic voice of South Africa’s anti-apartheid movement, was right when he said we have “no future without forgiveness.” Americans cannot talk about forgiveness around the opioid crisis, however, without facing the ugly truth that we denied this grace to black and brown people in the War on Drugs. Yes, all people deserve a chance to heal from addiction. But both Republicans and Democrats failed to see this until the harsh drug laws they passed in the 1980s and 90s started impacting white people...............

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This from a bible belt southern pal on another forum...one who knows firsthand:



The sick, religiously based, historical system of honor and ignorance of the Hatfields and the McCoys remains alive and flourishing in the bible belt.

This is what Marx meant when he wrote religion was the opiate of the masses. Generally, not always, clergy work the same side of the street as wealth/capital. Religion offers catharsis which is condoned by wealth/capital. Workers come ground down by the week, they receive catharsis and return ready to be ground down again. This despite the Christ ranting against wealth.

I grow tired of the lies.

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