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gounion
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This is something you'll NEVER see from a Republican Poltician

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Taking responsibility for your actions: https://www.newsweek.com/bill-clinton-u ... in-1792682
Former U.S. President Bill Clinton has said he feels a "personal stake" in Ukraine's war with Russia because of his role in persuading Kyiv to surrender nuclear weapons in the aftermath of the Cold War.

"I feel a personal stake because I got them [Ukraine] to agree to give up their nuclear weapons," Clinton told Irish broadcaster RTÉ. "None of them believe that Russia would have pulled this stunt if Ukraine still had their weapons," he said.

Ukraine retained a stockpile of nuclear weapons after the Soviet Union collapsed. In 1994, Ukraine gave up these nuclear weapons, although Kyiv did not have definitive control over Soviet nuclear weapons before signing up for non-proliferation.

Some Ukrainians have expressed the belief that Moscow would not have ordered its troops over the border into the country in February 2022 had Ukraine held onto these weapons. Ukrainian MP Oleksiy Goncharenko previously told Fox News as full-scale war broke out that "Ukraine is the only nation in human history which gave up the nuclear arsenal, the third biggest in the world in 1994."

Kyiv did so "with guarantees of the U.S., the U.K., and the Russian Federation," Goncharenko added. "Where are these guarantees? Now we are bombed and killed."
Did Donald Rumsfeld or Dick Cheney ever say "You know, in hindsight, it probably wasn't a good idea to give WMD's to Saddam, train Osama Bin Ladin to be a terrorist or to trade arms for hostages"?

Of course not. But then, to do such a thing, you'd have to have a conscience.
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All you need to know about Cheney's role in all this is found in the various descriptions of the Carlyle Group. The name comes from a very expensive hotel on the Upper East Side, with a killer view of Central Park. It's one of those places where, if you set foot in it, you are instantly reminded that class does exist in the United States, even if you're white. A lot of ultra-exclusive power lunches and other such hobnobs took place there at the time. The group was a key player in the oligarchy's takeover of the Republican Party.

More to the point, though, remember what happened after 9/11. It is fairly obvious that Cheney was running the country, and the somewhat under-qualified goober had been sent on his merry way, with the assignment of running around giving speeches about why Iraq and its obviously fictitious WMD had to be taken out even though the terrorist group that did the atrocity was based in Afghanistan and run by a rogue Saudi. Republicans tend to be good at this kind of thing, and of course Goober gave an adequate performance, though far short of Oscar consideration.

One might remember that when security was beefed up after the terrorist attack, Google Earth/Google Maps blurred out the Naval Observatory, since the Vice-President lives there and at the time it was the good old Dick. They never blurred out anything around the Capitol or the White House. It's obvious where the really sensitive target was.
"We must remember that we cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation." --Liz Cheney, Republican, 7/21/22
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