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Yes, they are "advancing freedumb" by trying to make it illegal to travel to another state for a non state approved reason (i.e. to go have an abortion), censor librarians and websites from even offering any information about abortion or where it is available, and yes, nothing says "pro life" by saying the state will execute a pregnant mother who had an abortion, or that there will be no exceptions for the life of the mother.
Here's the thing that irritates me. It's confusing biological science and social science to say a fertilized zygote is a person. Personhood is not determined by biology. It's a social and legal category. Note you have a birth certificate. This is pretty much the basis for your legal personhood. Do you have a conception certificate? No one does, and you can ask your parents about some fun time they had roughly 9 months before your birthday, but there is no legal document attached to that. There just isn't. And the reality is these "personhood at fertilization" laws could end up banning a lot of fertility treatments, forms of what most people consider birth control, and stem cell R & D.
An acorn is not the same thing as an oak tree, even if given successful growth and development over a few years, it can grow into & become one. That is real science. There are sometimes ordinances about cutting down trees illegally, but they do not punish you for stepping on & crushing an acorn.
Here's the thing that irritates me. It's confusing biological science and social science to say a fertilized zygote is a person. Personhood is not determined by biology. It's a social and legal category. Note you have a birth certificate. This is pretty much the basis for your legal personhood. Do you have a conception certificate? No one does, and you can ask your parents about some fun time they had roughly 9 months before your birthday, but there is no legal document attached to that. There just isn't. And the reality is these "personhood at fertilization" laws could end up banning a lot of fertility treatments, forms of what most people consider birth control, and stem cell R & D.
An acorn is not the same thing as an oak tree, even if given successful growth and development over a few years, it can grow into & become one. That is real science. There are sometimes ordinances about cutting down trees illegally, but they do not punish you for stepping on & crushing an acorn.
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Lmao this is so stupid.
Hm, but “slaves obey your masters” is. And so is “I don’t permit a woman to have authority over a man.”
Say karen, for next time, try actually reading the Bible before posting about it. There's all manner of stuff in there.
Hm, but “slaves obey your masters” is. And so is “I don’t permit a woman to have authority over a man.”
Say karen, for next time, try actually reading the Bible before posting about it. There's all manner of stuff in there.
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Oklahoma bans nonbinary gender identities on birth certificates - NPR
Oklahoma Gov. Kevin Stitt signed a bill Tuesday explicitly prohibiting the use of nonbinary gender markers on state birth certificates, a ban experts say is the first of its kind in the nation.
The bill followed a flap last year over the Oklahoma State Department of Health's agreement in a civil case allowing a nonbinary option. The birth certificate in that case was issued to an Oklahoma-born Oregon resident who sued after the agency initially refused the request. People who are nonbinary do not identify with traditional male or female gender assignments.
News of the settlement prompted outrage among Republicans, including Stitt, who along with fellow conservatives in a number of GOP-led states have been engaged in a culture war over issues like restricting LGBTQ and abortion rights that drive the party's base in an election year. Stitt's appointee to lead the agency abruptly resigned the next day, and the governor then promptly issued an executive order prohibiting any changes to a person's gender on birth certificates, despite the settlement agreement. A civil rights group has challenged the executive order in federal court, but the state has not yet responded.
Many states only offer male or female gender options on birth certificates, but Oklahoma is the first to write the nonbinary prohibition into law, according to Lambda Legal, the civil rights group suing Oklahoma.
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Uh. Hebrew uses pronouns, and yes it does have them. "I am the LORD" ... "I" (Ani) is a pronoun.
Now there's been a long argument over whether the pronouns for Yhvh should be masculine. They were in the original text. But she's not talking about that.
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In the GOP’s New Surveillance State, Everyone’s a Snitch
From abortion to schools, conservatives are depending on everyday citizens to spy on one another.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/20 ... -a-snitch/
[snip]
That early morning knock on the door, the ominous legal papers, and the knowledge that someone out there is looking for a chance to sue you are the features of a dystopian new trend: The rise of vigilante enforcement to reverse progress and entrench physical and psychological control over women, LGBTQ people, and people of color. It’s not just pregnant people whose bodily autonomy has succumbed to the mob in Texas. Laws like SB8 now reach into school bathrooms, classrooms, and sports, targeting both the rights of transgender and LGBTQ people and what is taught. Following Texas’ lead, two states passed SB-8 style abortion bans; around a dozen more have considered doing so. Several more states have brought SB8’s vigilante enforcement mechanism into schools: 192 bills across 40 states have sought to limit classroom instruction on gender, sexual orientation, race, and American history since January 2021, according to running data gathered by PEN America. Forty-six of those would be enforced by private citizens if passed. There is also no telling how this playbook might be expanded. Under the same legal logic, laws could be passed to empower citizens to harass voters at the polls, or to incentivize neighbors to report undocumented immigrants.
These laws do not stop at targeting society’s most vulnerable. They also attack the legal and social norms that underpin our system of government. They turn citizens into spies in a surveillance scheme more reminiscent of a totalitarian state, and shred the vital principle that the laws are applied equally to all people. These laws “allow you to stalk, surveil, harass, impede upon individual’s constitutional rights,” says Michele Goodwin, a specialist in constitutional law at the University of California, Irvine School of Law. “And that is why this is so dangerous to democracy.”
[snip]
Sutton’s scholarship on the intersection of abortion and democracy is informed by her experience growing up under a military dictatorship in Argentina. After the violent regime ended in 1983, the country transitioned to a democratic government, yet it still took decades of sustained activism to legalize abortion in 2021. “To have abortion rights, you need all the mechanisms of democracy to be working properly,” Sutton says. If abortion rights herald the success of a new democracy like Argentina’s, then they’re also the canary in the coal mine for democratic backsliding: A blinking alert that other rights for marginalized people will fall next.
[snip]
As these Republican-backed bills using private enforcement to block abortion and marginalize minorities proliferated, constitutional scholar Jon Michaels took note. A professor at the UCLA School of Law, he began to see this trend as part of Trumpism’s growing authoritarian strain. Last September, he and David Noll of Rutgers Law School predicted in a New York Times op-ed that SB8 was just the “tip of the iceberg” in the conservative movement’s war on vulnerable groups.
In January, after the Supreme Court virtually invited more states to mimic SB8’s civil enforcement mechanism when it declined to block the law, Michaels warned, this time in the Washington Post, that such laws were both a symptom and accelerant of “democratic decline.” Some colleagues told him to calm down, but the more he examined SB8 and its progeny, the more alarmed he became.
[snip]
The fact that lawmakers have repeatedly chosen to include this mechanism anyway points to vigilante laws’ more sweeping purpose. In a forthcoming Cornell Law Review article, Michaels and Noll argue that by deputizing the faithful of the conservative movement to attack the communities they dislike, these laws not only control and marginalize, but also realign power in American society. Rather than protect minority rights, the courts become a tool of mob rule, the sheltering protection of the law shrinks, and the social fabric of democracy gives way to surveillance and fear. These laws “draw upon and reinforce anti-democratic and authoritarian tendencies that are central to Trumpist politics,” they write.
[snip]
The comparison to today’s growing body of vigilante enforcement laws is eerie. Like the Fugitive Slave Law, SB8 ignores state borders. Anyone anywhere can sue those who aid an illegal abortion in Texas. Proceedings in court are stacked in favor of the vigilante: whoever they accuse must prove that they didn’t break the law, rather than the accuser proving that the law was violated, as is typical in the US legal system. Like the Fugitive Slave Law, SB8 uses a bounty system to incentivize enforcement: vigilantes are promised a minimum of $10,000 in damages for each abortion they sue over, as well as attorney’s fees paid by the accused. In Missouri, a proposed law would take this analogy even further by bringing liability to anyone who helped a Missouri resident obtain an abortion outside of Missouri. As in 1850, the carrot is money and the stick is fear. For more than a century after the Fugitive Slave Law, vigilantes enforced racial hierarchy through violence while lawmakers looked the other way. With rules like SB8, vigilantes are now again officially welcomed in the letter of the law.
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Michel Foucault often wrote about the Panopticon in his writings, as I've discussed. Essentially, the Panopticon is the Big Brother model, where a centralized state surveils everybody from a giant watchtower (in the original account, it was in a prison.)
But he claimed under the postmodern condition, increasingly the state will maximize its efficiency, getting citizens to spy on each other and themselves. No Panopticon needed when you deputize vigilantes to do surveillance for you. (This is also basically the theme of Philip K. Dick's Scanner Darkly, too, where Bob Arctor is actually spying on ... himself ... though he doesn't realize it.)
I like how this article contextualizes this growing move by the GOP toward vigilante surveillance within the basic authoritarian tendencies of Trumpism....
From abortion to schools, conservatives are depending on everyday citizens to spy on one another.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/20 ... -a-snitch/
[snip]
That early morning knock on the door, the ominous legal papers, and the knowledge that someone out there is looking for a chance to sue you are the features of a dystopian new trend: The rise of vigilante enforcement to reverse progress and entrench physical and psychological control over women, LGBTQ people, and people of color. It’s not just pregnant people whose bodily autonomy has succumbed to the mob in Texas. Laws like SB8 now reach into school bathrooms, classrooms, and sports, targeting both the rights of transgender and LGBTQ people and what is taught. Following Texas’ lead, two states passed SB-8 style abortion bans; around a dozen more have considered doing so. Several more states have brought SB8’s vigilante enforcement mechanism into schools: 192 bills across 40 states have sought to limit classroom instruction on gender, sexual orientation, race, and American history since January 2021, according to running data gathered by PEN America. Forty-six of those would be enforced by private citizens if passed. There is also no telling how this playbook might be expanded. Under the same legal logic, laws could be passed to empower citizens to harass voters at the polls, or to incentivize neighbors to report undocumented immigrants.
These laws do not stop at targeting society’s most vulnerable. They also attack the legal and social norms that underpin our system of government. They turn citizens into spies in a surveillance scheme more reminiscent of a totalitarian state, and shred the vital principle that the laws are applied equally to all people. These laws “allow you to stalk, surveil, harass, impede upon individual’s constitutional rights,” says Michele Goodwin, a specialist in constitutional law at the University of California, Irvine School of Law. “And that is why this is so dangerous to democracy.”
[snip]
Sutton’s scholarship on the intersection of abortion and democracy is informed by her experience growing up under a military dictatorship in Argentina. After the violent regime ended in 1983, the country transitioned to a democratic government, yet it still took decades of sustained activism to legalize abortion in 2021. “To have abortion rights, you need all the mechanisms of democracy to be working properly,” Sutton says. If abortion rights herald the success of a new democracy like Argentina’s, then they’re also the canary in the coal mine for democratic backsliding: A blinking alert that other rights for marginalized people will fall next.
[snip]
As these Republican-backed bills using private enforcement to block abortion and marginalize minorities proliferated, constitutional scholar Jon Michaels took note. A professor at the UCLA School of Law, he began to see this trend as part of Trumpism’s growing authoritarian strain. Last September, he and David Noll of Rutgers Law School predicted in a New York Times op-ed that SB8 was just the “tip of the iceberg” in the conservative movement’s war on vulnerable groups.
In January, after the Supreme Court virtually invited more states to mimic SB8’s civil enforcement mechanism when it declined to block the law, Michaels warned, this time in the Washington Post, that such laws were both a symptom and accelerant of “democratic decline.” Some colleagues told him to calm down, but the more he examined SB8 and its progeny, the more alarmed he became.
[snip]
The fact that lawmakers have repeatedly chosen to include this mechanism anyway points to vigilante laws’ more sweeping purpose. In a forthcoming Cornell Law Review article, Michaels and Noll argue that by deputizing the faithful of the conservative movement to attack the communities they dislike, these laws not only control and marginalize, but also realign power in American society. Rather than protect minority rights, the courts become a tool of mob rule, the sheltering protection of the law shrinks, and the social fabric of democracy gives way to surveillance and fear. These laws “draw upon and reinforce anti-democratic and authoritarian tendencies that are central to Trumpist politics,” they write.
[snip]
The comparison to today’s growing body of vigilante enforcement laws is eerie. Like the Fugitive Slave Law, SB8 ignores state borders. Anyone anywhere can sue those who aid an illegal abortion in Texas. Proceedings in court are stacked in favor of the vigilante: whoever they accuse must prove that they didn’t break the law, rather than the accuser proving that the law was violated, as is typical in the US legal system. Like the Fugitive Slave Law, SB8 uses a bounty system to incentivize enforcement: vigilantes are promised a minimum of $10,000 in damages for each abortion they sue over, as well as attorney’s fees paid by the accused. In Missouri, a proposed law would take this analogy even further by bringing liability to anyone who helped a Missouri resident obtain an abortion outside of Missouri. As in 1850, the carrot is money and the stick is fear. For more than a century after the Fugitive Slave Law, vigilantes enforced racial hierarchy through violence while lawmakers looked the other way. With rules like SB8, vigilantes are now again officially welcomed in the letter of the law.
[snip][end]
Michel Foucault often wrote about the Panopticon in his writings, as I've discussed. Essentially, the Panopticon is the Big Brother model, where a centralized state surveils everybody from a giant watchtower (in the original account, it was in a prison.)
But he claimed under the postmodern condition, increasingly the state will maximize its efficiency, getting citizens to spy on each other and themselves. No Panopticon needed when you deputize vigilantes to do surveillance for you. (This is also basically the theme of Philip K. Dick's Scanner Darkly, too, where Bob Arctor is actually spying on ... himself ... though he doesn't realize it.)
I like how this article contextualizes this growing move by the GOP toward vigilante surveillance within the basic authoritarian tendencies of Trumpism....
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Next up on the list of creeping dystopia ... PAPERS PLEASE!
Oklahoma parents of teen athletes must sign a "biological sex at birth affidavit" if their children participate in sports.
Wondering what's next. Will they have to do this if their kid uses the school bathroom?
Oklahoma parents of teen athletes must sign a "biological sex at birth affidavit" if their children participate in sports.
Wondering what's next. Will they have to do this if their kid uses the school bathroom?
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More Lavern Spicer. This is the only type of Black person conservative whites pretend to like for a minute.
What a stupid bigot. :problem:
What a stupid bigot. :problem:
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She really enjoys being wrong.
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
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It IS true the Constitution never once mentions or refers to "G-d". Absolutely correct.
The claim that it contains no pronouns ... well geez, lady, just start reading from the beginning.
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
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It IS true the Constitution never once mentions or refers to "G-d". Absolutely correct.
The claim that it contains no pronouns ... well geez, lady, just start reading from the beginning.
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The best these cons can do is stir the pot with stupidity like this.ProfX wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 10:37 am She really enjoys being wrong.
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
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It IS true the Constitution never once mentions or refers to "G-d". Absolutely correct.
The claim that it contains no pronouns ... well geez, lady, just start reading from the beginning.
It's a show of loyalty to the dumbest constituency in the country. :problem:
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Sex affidavit to be followed by "travelling papers" for Women of birthing age.
Not MIGHT happen, is happening and every con on this board will vote for the politicians doing this, making them our MORTAL and physical enemies NO DIFFERENT than WW2 Nazi, uniformed soldiers.
The difference is these Nazi's want ALL of us gone who dont fit in MAGA.
Not MIGHT happen, is happening and every con on this board will vote for the politicians doing this, making them our MORTAL and physical enemies NO DIFFERENT than WW2 Nazi, uniformed soldiers.
The difference is these Nazi's want ALL of us gone who dont fit in MAGA.
I sigh in your general direction.
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They’ll also be the ones tattling to the nanny state about who’s going where and who’s reading and looking up what.Libertas wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 11:18 am Sex affidavit to be followed by "travelling papers" for Women of birthing age.
Not MIGHT happen, is happening and every con on this board will vote for the politicians doing this, making them our MORTAL and physical enemies NO DIFFERENT than WW2 Nazi, uniformed soldiers.
The difference is these Nazi's want ALL of us gone who dont fit in MAGA.
Stupid quislings.
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Unfortunately, your phone might already be carrying a lot of information. Results of recent pregnancy tests (esp. if there is an app connected to it), travel history (hmmm Ms. so-and-so we notice you stopped recently at the local PP in Walla-Walla), texts you sent to somebody who helped drive you to the clinic, ...
This is why I posted that guide to digital privacy in the post-Roe age. Women will face questions. "Hmmm ms. so-and-so, we notice you were pregnant when you left Oklahomastan, and now you're not pregnant now that you've returned, and we see you stopped at a PP..."
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Shaking my head, how fucked up is this...and to think people HERE supporting this sick shit.ProfX wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 1:13 pm Unfortunately, your phone might already be carrying a lot of information. Results of recent pregnancy tests (esp. if there is an app connected to it), travel history (hmmm Ms. so-and-so we notice you stopped recently at the local PP in Walla-Walla), texts you sent to somebody who helped drive you to the clinic, ...
This is why I posted that guide to digital privacy in the post-Roe age. Women will face questions. "Hmmm ms. so-and-so, we notice you were pregnant when you left Oklahomastan, and now you're not pregnant now that you've returned, and we see you stopped at a PP..."
I sigh in your general direction.
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It's as if conservative whites, by propping up these people like her, Christian Walker, Candace Owens, Herschel Walker, Pastor Mark Burns etc., still need to prove their stereotypes about Black intelligence.
The best they have is trolls.
These people are so self-loathing, they have actually signed up to be nothing but willing trolls.
They all need to be deplatformed.
The best they have is trolls.
These people are so self-loathing, they have actually signed up to be nothing but willing trolls.
They all need to be deplatformed.
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Found on DU
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She most certainly is not. This is their way of invalidating trans, gender-nonconforming, and gender-nonbinary people right out of the populace.
Outside of demagogic agitprop like this, Republicans, conservative whites, and their blinkered aspirants, have no platform.
All she's running on is trolling and anti-CRT. Good luck with that against Frederika Wilson, karen.
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These crooked conservative Christians would have been the ones yelling "give us Barabbas" the loudest.
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These parents speaking to the genital inspectors of Florida are perverted, and so, obviously, is the entire violent/violating concept of Genspect and other forms of government gender police.
#smallergovernment
#profamily
#prolife
#childendangerment
#childabuse
This poor kid.
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@ZJemptv
Genspect, the "Genital Inspectors" who want schools to keep students from tucking (with an associate on Florida's Board of Medicine), met with HHS civil rights division in April. A dad talked about bribing his trans kid with a puppy to show more cleavage https://reginfo.gov/public/do/viewEO128 ... 45-HHS/OCR
Background: Genspect vs. the threat of a student's genitals being positioned improperly in their underwear
Genspect vs. letting the public see that Patrick Hunter on the Florida Board of Medicine signed this letter
Genspect founder Stella O'Malley, present at the HHS civil rights division meeting, saying trans kids might "relapse" as if they are alcoholics or substance users
Genspect recommending twelve-step programs for trans people and their families:
This is a group completely oriented toward promoting the conversion therapy notion that there is some alternative treatment for gender dysphoria that involves restoration to a cisgender state. So it's relevant that their alternative treatments include offering a puppy instead
No published evidence or clinical practice supports providing a puppy as an effective treatment for gender dysphoria
Anyway, you can see how much the DeSantis administration cares about stopping gr**mers in schools: not at all, actually
And you can see how much they care about blatantly harassing trans people from childhood onward: a LOT
https://twitter.com/ZJemptv/status/1554318860173692928
#smallergovernment
#profamily
#prolife
#childendangerment
#childabuse
This poor kid.
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Zinnia Jones sssss
@ZJemptv
Genspect, the "Genital Inspectors" who want schools to keep students from tucking (with an associate on Florida's Board of Medicine), met with HHS civil rights division in April. A dad talked about bribing his trans kid with a puppy to show more cleavage https://reginfo.gov/public/do/viewEO128 ... 45-HHS/OCR
Background: Genspect vs. the threat of a student's genitals being positioned improperly in their underwear
Genspect vs. letting the public see that Patrick Hunter on the Florida Board of Medicine signed this letter
Genspect founder Stella O'Malley, present at the HHS civil rights division meeting, saying trans kids might "relapse" as if they are alcoholics or substance users
Genspect recommending twelve-step programs for trans people and their families:
This is a group completely oriented toward promoting the conversion therapy notion that there is some alternative treatment for gender dysphoria that involves restoration to a cisgender state. So it's relevant that their alternative treatments include offering a puppy instead
No published evidence or clinical practice supports providing a puppy as an effective treatment for gender dysphoria
Anyway, you can see how much the DeSantis administration cares about stopping gr**mers in schools: not at all, actually
And you can see how much they care about blatantly harassing trans people from childhood onward: a LOT
https://twitter.com/ZJemptv/status/1554318860173692928
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Christopher Rufo yesterday:carmenjonze wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 12:59 am Reminder: Christopher Rufo is the Manhattan Institute/Heritage Foundation original anti-CRT propagandist.
Manhattan Institute is infamous for The Bell Curve.
Toldja many many moons ago. These anti-CRT people and anti-LGBTQ people are the same bunch of WSs.
They also are not hiding their propaganda strategy and are putting it in full view. Be advised: the WS marks on this board will fall for it just like they fell for these anti-CRT and anti-LGBTQ bills.
"Christopher F. Rufo
@realchrisrufo
The Spanish-speaking media has picked up on the phrase "transvestite strippers," saying that progressives' hero-worship of drag queens will lead to Hispanic voters abandoning the Democratic Party."
https://twitter.com/realchrisrufo/statu ... 6380944384
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A Google Translate of the tweet Rufo QTd:
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Agustín Laje
@AgustinLaje
Según los progres, los strippers travestís son héroes y "patriotas" mientras que los conservadores somos "deplorables".
Me alegro que lo hayan dejado claro. No se sorprendan cuando los hispanos abandonen por completo el Partido Demócrata.
Translated from Spanish by Google
According to liberals, transvestite strippers are heroes and "patriots" while conservatives are "deplorable."
I'm glad they made it clear. Don't be surprised when Hispanics abandon the Democratic Party altogether.
https://twitter.com/AgustinLaje/status/ ... 1472970752
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this is some really obvious, desperately wishful thinking.
Ignorant white cons like Glennfs are the ones dumb enough to fall for this crude, trans-baiting propaganda. They're already in the party of death, where they belong. That party is quite open about what they are doing. The dumb cons around here seem to think the 2022 GOP is still trying to hide it like the 90s GOP tried to do. :problem:
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Agustín Laje
@AgustinLaje
Según los progres, los strippers travestís son héroes y "patriotas" mientras que los conservadores somos "deplorables".
Me alegro que lo hayan dejado claro. No se sorprendan cuando los hispanos abandonen por completo el Partido Demócrata.
Translated from Spanish by Google
According to liberals, transvestite strippers are heroes and "patriots" while conservatives are "deplorable."
I'm glad they made it clear. Don't be surprised when Hispanics abandon the Democratic Party altogether.
https://twitter.com/AgustinLaje/status/ ... 1472970752
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this is some really obvious, desperately wishful thinking.
Ignorant white cons like Glennfs are the ones dumb enough to fall for this crude, trans-baiting propaganda. They're already in the party of death, where they belong. That party is quite open about what they are doing. The dumb cons around here seem to think the 2022 GOP is still trying to hide it like the 90s GOP tried to do. :problem:
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Re: Is this the high-water mark of our freedoms? Must-see.
Sr. Laje might need to account himself with the diversity of his own ethnic group.
The Reinas of Drag are often LatinX.
The Reinas of Drag are often LatinX.
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This guy is a straight-up Argentine fascist.
Lol he actually has a book called Culture War. :problem:
Look at this dirty little bigot. Lol he wants to be considered white, so bad!
https://www.harpercollinsmexico.mx/agustin-laje/
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Oh and by the way, when Laje blubbers, "According to liberals, transvestite strippers are heroes and "patriots" while conservatives are "deplorable," he is mistaken.
According to this liberal, "transvestite strippers," so-called transvestites, strippers, sex workers are indeed heroes, or they can be. Every bunch has their jerks.
In fact, where's my Venn diagram. Every bunch also has their conservatives, including trans people and sex workers.
Conservatives are way worse than just "deplorable." They are destroying this country.
According to this liberal, "transvestite strippers," so-called transvestites, strippers, sex workers are indeed heroes, or they can be. Every bunch has their jerks.
In fact, where's my Venn diagram. Every bunch also has their conservatives, including trans people and sex workers.
Conservatives are way worse than just "deplorable." They are destroying this country.
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I know both he and Chris Rufo believe in culture war through mendacity, but drag performance rarely involves stripping and isn't inherently sexual.
Some performers are "full time" trans gender, but for most it's just a performance art, and they don't live trans lives when not on stage.
So, Chris is lying about drag the same way he admitted he was lying about CRT for political purposes. If Sr. Laje wants to assist in that effort in Hispanic media, well, the company you keep...
Just like how Kari Lake was friends with several trans performers and didn't seem to have a problem with it, until she became a political candidate.
Some performers are "full time" trans gender, but for most it's just a performance art, and they don't live trans lives when not on stage.
So, Chris is lying about drag the same way he admitted he was lying about CRT for political purposes. If Sr. Laje wants to assist in that effort in Hispanic media, well, the company you keep...
Just like how Kari Lake was friends with several trans performers and didn't seem to have a problem with it, until she became a political candidate.
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Yes, I believe she was friends with drag performers, but the opportunism and hypocrisy of these culture warriors knows no limits. They will do ANYTHING, because they're desperate.ProfX wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:30 pm I know both he and Chris Rufo believe in culture war through mendacity, but drag performance rarely involves stripping and isn't inherently sexual.
Some performers are "full time" trans gender, but for most it's just a performance art, and they don't live trans lives when not on stage.
So, Chris is lying about drag the same way he admitted he was lying about CRT for political purposes. If Sr. Laje wants to assist in that effort in Hispanic media, well, the company you keep...
Just like how Kari Lake was friends with several trans performers and didn't seem to have a problem with it, until she became a political candidate.
I guess that's what results when a whole group of people stamps out any signs of culture among themselves. It must be SO DIFFICULT to see other cultures thriving.
Anyway, there is a very famous drag performer, Vicki Marlane who was also a transgender woman - she has a street named after her in my city. It's called, cleverly, Vicki Mar Lane. I saw her perform in person at a pride event right before she passed.
Here's some information about her from the Calfornia Digital Library
http://pdf.oac.cdlib.org/pdf/glhs/c8x06dzp.pdf
I'm a member of the GLBT Historical Society. I may go check this out later in the week.Acquisition Information
Gift of Felicia Elizondo in February 2014.
Biography/Administrative History
Vicki Marlane (1934-2011) was a critically acclaimed drag performer and transgender woman who worked in San Francisco.
Marlane’s numerous awards and the efforts of various LGBT organizations to rename a block of Turk Street after Marlane
underscore her importance to these communities. Born on September 5, 1934, in Crookston, Minnesota, Marlane left her
family’s farm after she began performing at a Minnesota gay bar at age 16. In the 1950s and 1960s, she toured nationally
in circus sideshows, then with female impersonator troupes. In 1966, Marlane moved to, and performed widely in, San
Francisco. In the 1980s, Marlane transitioned and moved to San Diego. Returning to the San Francisco drag scene in 1998,
Marlane earned critical acclaim as “The Lady with the Liquid Spine” while performing at Aunt Charlie’s Lounge. Marlane
continued to perform at Imperial and Ducal Court events, was Grand Marshal of the 2003 San Francisco Pride Parade, and
was the subject of the documentary Forever’s Gonna Start Tonight (2009). She died July 5, 2011 of AIDS-related
complications.
Scope and Content of Collection
The Vicki Marlane Photographs and Artifacts document Marlane’s personal life in the 1970s and 1980s and her performance
work in the 1990s. There is a small amount of material on her early career.
Re: Felicia "Felicia Flames" Elizondo, I used to get into social media tiffs once every blue moon with her over the word "queer," since I use it for myself. She was very dead-set against the term, but otherwise quite nice, especially for a renown public figure. That said, I have friends who were actualy offline friends with her. She was another trans woman who comes from a drag performance background.
Transgender Pioneer & LGBT Activist Felicia Elizondo - YouTube
Everybody should watch this vid - she talks about her days as a stripper, as well, and makes no bones about how and why so many trans- and other LGBTQIA2S+ people end up in sex and other so-called illicit trades. These are matters of practicality and survival. The TV shows Pose and P-Valley (to an extent; not many trans storylines in that show) also depict this. Yes, these two women are heroes to me, and these bitter old goosestepping propagandists like Chris Rufo and this Laje fellow wouldn't last 5 minutes contending with what they did...AND thriving on top of it.
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The way to right wrongs is to
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