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bird wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:26 pm Jared Kushner, Ivanka Kushner were in the WH.

Hunter Biden has no part in his father’s administration.

And let us not forget requiring the Secret Service to use overpriced Trump properties when the Velveeta Vulgarian was in the UK.

Trading on a family name is meaningless. Trading on a family name while an advisor to the idiot who was in the WH is light years beyond anything done by Hunter Biden.

Demand that all the Trump’s be investigated.
Trading on your dad's name is one thing. But in the case of Hunter he had nothing to offer i return other than influence.
While I don't deny that Kushner and Ivanka weren't offering influence. At least they have plausible deniabilty as they did have experience in the fields for which they were paid.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:48 pm Trading on your dad's name is one thing. But in the case of Hunter he had nothing to offer i return other than influence.
While I don't deny that Kushner and Ivanka weren't offering influence. At least they have plausible deniabilty as they did have experience in the fields for which they were paid.
No they fucking didn’t. Neither of them. Jared was in real estate, Ivanka was in merchandise. Neither had government experience, AT ALL.

And there is zero evidence Joe Biden took bribes to help out his drug addicted son, or did anything of use to him or Burisma. Quite the opposite.
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bird wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:26 pm Jared Kushner, Ivanka Kushner were in the WH.

Hunter Biden has no part in his father’s administration.

And let us not forget requiring the Secret Service to use overpriced Trump properties when the Velveeta Vulgarian was in the UK.

Trading on a family name is meaningless. Trading on a family name while an advisor to the idiot who was in the WH is light years beyond anything done by Hunter Biden.

Demand that all the Trump’s be investigated.
What does Jared and Ivanka have to do with the 100 or so transactions tagged as suspicious by the Treasury Department? What does Jared and Ivanka have to do with the transactions that flowed thru multiple shell LLC’s from foreign entities only to end up in the accounts of Biden Family members?
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gounion wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:13 pm No they fucking didn’t. Neither of them. Jared was in real estate, Ivanka was in merchandise. Neither had government experience, AT ALL.

And there is zero evidence Joe Biden took bribes to help out his drug addicted son, or did anything of use to him or Burisma. Quite the opposite.
I was speaking about the business deals they made with the foreign countries. They were in fields where they had experience.

As opposed to Hunter who was not qualified on any level for the deals he received.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 6:15 pm I was speaking about the business deals they made with the foreign countries. They were in fields where they had experience.

As opposed to Hunter who was not qualified on any level for the deals he received.
So if someone on the President’s staff was a bank robber, and he helped rob banks while on staff, you’d say he was qualified?

Nice way of trying to defend what Jared and Ivanka did. As always.

No, Jared was not a diplomat in any way. He was a real estate guy.
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gounion wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 6:32 pm So if someone on the President’s staff was a bank robber, and he helped rob banks while on staff, you’d say he was qualified?

Nice way of trying to defend what Jared and Ivanka did. As always.

No, Jared was not a diplomat in any way. He was a real estate guy.
No I am saying that Kushner is qualified to make large business deals and Ivanka is qualified for the deal she cut.
However I agree that they received the deals as payment for influence.

On the other hand Hunter was not qualified on any level for the deals he received and you claim those who gave him millions weren't attempting and Hunter wasn't peddling influence
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:16 pm No I am saying that Kushner is qualified to make large business deals and Ivanka is qualified for the deal she cut.
However I agree that they received the deals as payment for influence.

On the other hand Hunter was not qualified on any level for the deals he received and you claim those who gave him millions weren't attempting and Hunter wasn't peddling influence
He wasn’t cutting business deals - It was peace negotiations and high-level diplomacy. He wasn’t qualified.

Ivanka wasn’t hired to get personal trademarks through the government.

And let’s be clear: Hunter was never hired for the government.
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gounion wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:43 pm He wasn’t cutting business deals - It was peace negotiations and high-level diplomacy. He wasn’t qualified.

Ivanka wasn’t hired to get personal trademarks through the government.

And let’s be clear: Hunter was never hired for the government.
Why can't you just admit that Hunter, Ivanka and Jerod were all doing the same thing.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:53 pm Why can't you just admit that Hunter, Ivanka and Jerod were all doing the same thing.
One big difference - Hunter wasn’t a government official. And what he did, as far as can be seen, wasn’t illegal.

What Jared and Ivanka did WAS illegal, using their government positions to profit. But you’ll continue to defend it.
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gounion wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:58 pm One big difference - Hunter wasn’t a government official. And what he did, as far as can be seen, wasn’t illegal.

What Jared and Ivanka did WAS illegal, using their government positions to profit. But you’ll continue to defend it.
So you are saying those foreign companies gave Hunter Biden millions of dollars because they saw something in him that nobody else did.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 6:11 pm What does Jared and Ivanka have to do with the 100 or so transactions tagged as suspicious by the Treasury Department? What does Jared and Ivanka have to do with the transactions that flowed thru multiple shell LLC’s from foreign entities only to end up in the accounts of Biden Family members?
Did any monies end up in Joe Biden’s accounts? What constitutes “suspicious transactions”? Were the transactions investigated?

The difference is that Hunter Biden was not, is not and never will be in Joe Biden’s administration. Jared Kushner, Ivanka Kushner were directly involved in Trump’s administration. They and he profited directly from Trump being president while working in the administration. What benefit do Xi get from allowing Ivanka’s trademark which funneled, iirc, 500 million to Ivanka? We know that Jared Kushner received 2 billion. What did he do for, iirc, the Saudis? What things were talked about when Trump was alone with Putin?

If you are surprised that family members will trade on the family name of famous/connected people then you are extremely naive. If you don’t know the difference between what may have happened with Hunter Biden and what did happen with Trump then you are a useful idiot to borrow from, iirc, Lenin.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:48 pm Trading on your dad's name is one thing. But in the case of Hunter he had nothing to offer i return other than influence.
While I don't deny that Kushner and Ivanka weren't offering influence. At least they have plausible deniabilty as they did have experience in the fields for which they were paid.
Incorrect. He had no influence because he wasn’t in his father’s administration. Biden, despite your stupid claims of being mentally deficient, did not put his son in his administration. Trump did. That becomes the very definition of influence.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:02 pm So you are saying those foreign companies gave Hunter Biden millions of dollars because they saw something in him that nobody else did.
Why did the Saudi government give Jared BILLIONS of dollars? It’s funny how that’s fine with you.

Look, Hunter may have made promises. But let’s be clear: There’s NO evidence he was able to deliver anything, because his dad isn’t going to break the law for his drug-addicted son.
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bird wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:55 am Incorrect. He had no influence because he wasn’t in his father’s administration. Biden, despite your stupid claims of being mentally deficient, did not put his son in his administration. Trump did. That becomes the very definition of influence.
So, it it your position that only direct transactions with a government official is corrupting or has a corrupting influence? So if my 35 year old son owns a billion dollars worth of stock in a corporation and I am a judge, I can sit on a case involving that company? That I am independent in that case? That’s ethical to you?
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bird wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:51 am Did any monies end up in Joe Biden’s accounts? What constitutes “suspicious transactions”? Were the transactions investigated?

The difference is that Hunter Biden was not, is not and never will be in Joe Biden’s administration. Jared Kushner, Ivanka Kushner were directly involved in Trump’s administration. They and he profited directly from Trump being president while working in the administration. What benefit do Xi get from allowing Ivanka’s trademark which funneled, iirc, 500 million to Ivanka? We know that Jared Kushner received 2 billion. What did he do for, iirc, the Saudis? What things were talked about when Trump was alone with Putin?

If you are surprised that family members will trade on the family name of famous/connected people then you are extremely naive. If you don’t know the difference between what may have happened with Hunter Biden and what did happen with Trump then you are a useful idiot to borrow from, iirc, Lenin.
I don’t know if Joe Biden benefited financially. The matter hasn’t been investigated. If you don’t look, you don’t know.

Suspicious transactions are flagged by the treasury department. I suppose these were flagged because they originated in foreign countries and were directed to multiple shell LLC’s. Typical in instances where people are attempting to launder money or hide the recipients of the funds. But hey, let’s not look into these. Doesn’t matter how much smoke and heat are in the house. Don’t call the fire depArtment until you see actually flames or people being burnt alive. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:56 am So, it it your position that only direct transactions with a government official is corrupting or has a corrupting influence? So if my 35 year old son owns a billion dollars worth of stock in a corporation and I am a judge, I can sit on a case involving that company? That I am independent in that case? That’s ethical to you?
Look, it’s LEGAL for relatives to make money off their famous relative’s name. I agree it’s not ethical but it IS legal. We can debate whether it SHOULD be illegal, and I’d probably side with you. But for now, it’s legal.

Hunter Biden has been investigated for five years by an independent Trump appointee. The investigation is over. The investigator found no ties to Joe Biden.

As for a sitting judge, that’s apples and oranges, and YOU KNOW IT. But hey that’s all you have.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:01 am I don’t know if Joe Biden benefited financially. The matter hasn’t been investigated. If you don’t look, you don’t know.

Suspicious transactions are flagged by the treasury department. I suppose these were flagged because they originated in foreign countries and were directed to multiple shell LLC’s. Typical in instances where people are attempting to launder money or hide the recipients of the funds. But hey, let’s not look into these. Doesn’t matter how much smoke and heat are in the house. Don’t call the fire depArtment until you see actually flames or people being burnt alive. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil.
It HAS been investigated. For five years. By a Trump appointee. Nothing was found. Deal with it.

Oh, wait, you will NEVER accept that Joe Biden didn’t take bribes, will you?
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JoeMemphis wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:01 am I don’t know if Joe Biden benefited financially. The matter hasn’t been investigated. If you don’t look, you don’t know.

Suspicious transactions are flagged by the treasury department. I suppose these were flagged because they originated in foreign countries and were directed to multiple shell LLC’s. Typical in instances where people are attempting to launder money or hide the recipients of the funds. But hey, let’s not look into these. Doesn’t matter how much smoke and heat are in the house. Don’t call the fire depArtment until you see actually flames or people being burnt alive. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil.
Says the guy who supports the party that won’t cut Trump loose.

Is 2 Billion from the Saudis worth investigating?

Is Ivanka’s trademark deal worth investigating?

You have no knowledge as to whether or not the “suspicious transactions” were investigated but you pass right by Republicans grifting.

Thanks for clearing that up.
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bird wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:16 am Says the guy who supports the party that won’t cut Trump loose.

Is 2 Billion from the Saudis worth investigating?

Is Ivanka’s trademark deal worth investigating?

You have no knowledge as to whether or not the “suspicious transactions” were investigated but you pass right by Republicans grifting.

Thanks for clearing that up.
Joe will say “I’m for ALL investigations”, but he only cares about investigating DEMOCRATS. He ignores everything the right does. Especially the Trumps.
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gounion wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:17 am Joe will say “I’m for ALL investigations”, but he only cares about investigating DEMOCRATS. He ignores everything the right does. Especially the Trumps.

You think all democrats are innocent.

Hunter innocent
Biden a beacon of honesty
HRC made 100k in the futures
Then Senator Obama real estate deal 100pct legit
Menendez innocent
No need to ever investigate any democrat
Bill only paid Paula Jones because she was a nuisance
Al Gore a genius businessman and another beacon of purity

The only Dem you admit was corrupt is the guy from Louisiana. Had it not been for the hurricane you would be declaring him innocent.

Nobody here is saying Biden is guilty. We are saying an investigation is on order
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Yeah, let's punish Democrats who game the system to make money, and ignore how Republicans have made that same bending of the rules almost a religious obligation, with nary a peep from anyone in the deluded propagandized mass that passes for a body politic in this disinformed excuse for a country.

Pretty hypocritical, methinks, so drop the fake outrage.
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 10:34 am You think all democrats are innocent.

Hunter innocent
Biden a beacon of honesty
HRC made 100k in the futures
Then Senator Obama real estate deal 100pct legit
Menendez innocent
No need to ever investigate any democrat
Bill only paid Paula Jones because she was a nuisance
Al Gore a genius businessman and another beacon of purity

The only Dem you admit was corrupt is the guy from Louisiana. Had it not been for the hurricane you would be declaring him innocent.

Nobody here is saying Biden is guilty. We are saying an investigation is on order
Yes you ARE saying Biden is guilty. Be honest, you're SURE of it. Just as you're sure Clinton should be in prison over some stock trades - whereas Donald Trump is just being hounded for political reasons, and should NEVER see a day inside of a prison.

You also won't admit that Obama had the most honest and corruption-free administration in modern history.

And I find it funny, after all the real estate shenanigans of the Trump and Kushner family (remember that Chris Christie sent Jared's daddy up the river), you want to act like Obama is some sort of real estate criminal? Are you fucking kidding me?

Biden has a long history in the Senate and government, and the ONLY think they've ever had on him was some plagiarism in college! It's not like he was in the Keating Five or anything... It's insane to think he took bribes as a vice president. You'd have to have a scumbag like Spiro Agnew to do things like that.

Glenn, what if someone just told the government YOU were taking bribes for something? Wouldn't you want there to be PROOF before you were investigated by a government agency? Of course, I'm sure you thought there should be a Special Prosecutor to investigate whether Barack Obama was born in the USA or not.

The accusation of bribery by Biden came from none other that Rudy Giuliani. There is no proof of it at all. There are no tapes. There are no witnesses. Just a form turned into the FBI making these accusations.

Because you guys have nothing else.
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One thing Glenn and Joe will NEVER do is say “Okay, Hunter was investigated for five years, and this is what they’ve found. It’s over and done with.”

They are both SURE there’s LOTS more there, but the Trump-appointed independent prosecutor is somehow a Biden stooge. They will just demand MORE investigations.
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gounion wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:31 am Yes you ARE saying Biden is guilty. Be honest, you're SURE of it. Just as you're sure Clinton should be in prison over some stock trades - whereas Donald Trump is just being hounded for political reasons, and should NEVER see a day inside of a prison.

You also won't admit that Obama had the most honest and corruption-free administration in modern history.

And I find it funny, after all the real estate shenanigans of the Trump and Kushner family (remember that Chris Christie sent Jared's daddy up the river), you want to act like Obama is some sort of real estate criminal? Are you fucking kidding me?

Biden has a long history in the Senate and government, and the ONLY think they've ever had on him was some plagiarism in college! It's not like he was in the Keating Five or anything... It's insane to think he took bribes as a vice president. You'd have to have a scumbag like Spiro Agnew to do things like that.

Glenn, what if someone just told the government YOU were taking bribes for something? Wouldn't you want there to be PROOF before you were investigated by a government agency? Of course, I'm sure you thought there should be a Special Prosecutor to investigate whether Barack Obama was born in the USA or not.

The accusation of bribery by Biden came from none other that Rudy Giuliani. There is no proof of it at all. There are no tapes. There are no witnesses. Just a form turned into the FBI making these accusations.

Because you guys have nothing else.
No I don't think Biden is guilty

No I don't want to see Clinton in prison

Biden has been lying hus entire life. Let's not forget the reason he dropped out of the race.

Yes Obama had as close to a corruption free administration as possible. But, he did get a sweetheart real-estate deal when a Senator. Just because Trump got a better deal does not let Obama off the hook

Finally the 100k in future trading was 100pct a payoff. As it was mathematically impossible to have done.
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:27 pm No I don't think Biden is guilty

No I don't want to see Clinton in prison

Biden has been lying hus entire life. Let's not forget the reason he dropped out of the race.

Yes Obama had as close to a corruption free administration as possible. But, he did get a sweetheart real-estate deal when a Senator. Just because Trump got a better deal does not let Obama off the hook

Finally the 100k in future trading was 100pct a payoff. As it was mathematically impossible to have done.
Just making shit up to throw against the wall.

So, let’s be clear, you’re done with the “Biden took bribes” think since the prosecutor has shut down the case with the plea deal with Hunter?

I mean, I remember on the old board when the investigators declared Scooter Libby innocent. I never again made any accusations against him.

Are YOU going to do the same?
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