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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 2:49 pm 
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California has a couple of those. There's a waiting period, and gun stores tend to look like bunkers. Everyone agrees that the guns and ammo should stay in the store until a legal purchaser takes them away. Unlike pawn shops, those places are basically arsenals.

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No revolvers, either.


Those are basically semi-automatics.


I sorta figured when I said "...everything but single shot long barreled hunting rifles and shotguns are illegal..." I was including revolvers.

This country is too fucked up for training to do anything. Get rid of the weapons...first offense for possession, five years, second offense 15 years, third offense you're gone to stir for good.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 4:08 pm 
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All Firearms Owners must be finger printed and under go intense background checks. Mental Health Screening as well.

Any home with children, but have secure locations to keep the firearms out children's hands.

All owners must submit to unplanned and unscheuled weapons checks by law enforcement. Any loose weapons would be confiscated and the owner arrested.

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All Firearms Owners must be finger printed and under go intense background checks. Mental Health Screening as well.

Any home with children, but have secure locations to keep the firearms out children's hands.

All owners must submit to unplanned and unscheuled weapons checks by law enforcement. Any loose weapons would be confiscated and the owner arrested.


and that is why so many moderates oppose reasonable gun laws. We know the hard left won't be happy until owning a gun or guns is banned. All the while the hard left exclaiming they aren't for banning gun ownership. Just like they do in San Francisco where the hard left regulated every gun store out of business.

We need reasonable gun laws but, as long as the lefts agenda remains the end of the 2nd amendment it is going to be a long hard slog.

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and that is why so many moderates oppose reasonable gun laws. We know the hard left won't be happy until owning a gun or guns is banned. All the while the hard left exclaiming they aren't for banning gun ownership. Just like they do in San Francisco where the hard left regulated every gun store out of business.

We need reasonable gun laws but, as long as the lefts agenda remains the end of the 2nd amendment it is going to be a long hard slog.


soo whats reasonable?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:33 pm 
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and that is why so many moderates oppose reasonable gun laws. We know the hard left won't be happy until owning a gun or guns is banned. All the while the hard left exclaiming they aren't for banning gun ownership. Just like they do in San Francisco where the hard left regulated every gun store out of business.

We need reasonable gun laws but, as long as the lefts agenda remains the end of the 2nd amendment it is going to be a long hard slog.



So you don't want to touch reasonable gun laws because you're afraid of some left wing agenda that your guns are going to be taken away? That isn't the opinion of someone who is moderate. It's the opinion of an extremist. But then, everyone here knows you're not the moderate you pretend to be.

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I would say the real problem is we can't even do anything on something even the NRA agrees with. Well, at least partially. They didn't say they would oppose regulations on "bump-stocks" for semi-autos as used by the Vegas shooter, though they did say they would oppose a total ban.

However, I gotta admit, I have never seen a sound argument why people would need "bump-stocks" for hunting or self defense, at least not if they're not hunting a brontosaurus, or defending against an alien invasion from Daxam.

Everybody seems to agree on this. The polling on a bump-stock ban is at around 85% support, I think. No legislation. I think I see the problem, right there.

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what we have now seems quite unreasonable that in managing gun policy innocent people are having their lives health and loved ones sacrificed, others are victimized through suspicion and militarized security measures and personell.


The Shooting at First Baptist Church Is an Attack on All People of Faith Can we truly love our neighbor if we pat him down at the door?

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But the lone gunman in Sutherland Springs this week, who was white and born in the U.S., evoked a different response from the President: a focus on mental health, not guns. The contradiction of this pivot to defend gun rights is inescapable. Not only did he make it easier for people with mental health issues to get guns; this President has also spent nine months trying to undermine the Affordable Care Act, which aimed to guarantee access to mental health services to all Americans............

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soo whats reasonable?

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Michigan Senate votes to allow concealed guns in schools

LANSING, MI - Some gun owners would be allowed to carry concealed guns in schools under legislation approved along mostly partisan lines in the Michigan Senate on Wednesday.

http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/201 ... allow.html


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We need reasonable gun laws but, as long as the lefts agenda remains the end of the 2nd amendment it is going to be a long hard slog.


You lie like a fucking dog. AFAIC you can have all the long barreled, single shot hunting rifles and shotguns that you and you're shriveled little pee-pee need to feel like a man.

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Nick Anderson Nails It.

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and that is why so many moderates oppose reasonable gun laws. We know the hard left won't be happy until owning a gun or guns is banned. All the while the hard left exclaiming they aren't for banning gun ownership. Just like they do in San Francisco where the hard left regulated every gun store out of business.

We need reasonable gun laws but, as long as the lefts agenda remains the end of the 2nd amendment it is going to be a long hard slog.


Most of the left in L.A. owns guns. When was the last time you heard of a Marxian socialist shooting up a church? Didn't think so. Responsible gun ownership is fine. Giving every yutz with male insecurity and a mental health record a military weapon is not fine.

Glen, your generalities about "the left" are getting really irritating. You wouldn't like it if I called your people just a bunch of, well, whatever. Not that I ever would.

It goes both ways.

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marindem wrote:


yea really, often its the person who amasses huge amounts of ammunition, body armour and military type weapons that do these type of shootings.

Church where massacre occurred to be demolished

would be better to demolish future mass shootings

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Michigan Senate votes to allow concealed guns in schools

LANSING, MI - Some gun owners would be allowed to carry concealed guns in schools under legislation approved along mostly partisan lines in the Michigan Senate on Wednesday.

http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/201 ... allow.html


the title is a bit misleading its not just for schools but also child daycare, stadiums and churches.

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Texas church won't reopen after shooting: pastor

The Texas church where a gunman last weekend killed 26 people will not reopen, the church's pastor has said.

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That is truly a shame. I can understand why, people died there, including the Pastor's Daughter.

But hey, he bought the weapons he used legally. He had every right in the world to carry them wherever he wanted. He wanted to use them in a church...but at least he was legal.

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marindem wrote:
That is truly a shame. I can understand why, people died there, including the Pastor's Daughter.

But hey, he bought the weapons he used legally. He had every right in the world to carry them wherever he wanted. He wanted to use them in a church...but at least he was legal.


how do we protect ourselves from lawmakers who would rather normalize massacres than give an inch?

Harrowing moments inside Texas church: Gunman shouted 'everybody die,' fired at crying children

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Roseanne Solis told KSAT-TV in San Antonio that Sunday's service at the First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs began amid smiles and joyous singing. Then, suddenly, tragedy.

"I hear firecrackers popping. Ta-ta-ta," Solis said. "Everybody started screaming, yelling. Everyone got down, crawling under wherever they could hide. It was so scary."

The shooting was coming from outside the church. Solis said she was hit in the shoulder. She and her husband, Joaquin Ramirez, were bloodied and played dead, watching as fellow parishioners were felled in the hail of bullets.

When the shooting stopped, she thought police might have arrived. It was actually the gunman, 26-year-old Devin Kelley, entering the church.

"Everyone was saying ‘Be quiet. It's him. It's him.’ Then he yelled out, ‘Everybody die (expletive),’ and he started shooting again," she said..............

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and that is why so many moderates oppose reasonable gun laws. We know the hard left won't be happy until owning a gun or guns is banned. All the while the hard left exclaiming they aren't for banning gun ownership. Just like they do in San Francisco where the hard left regulated every gun store out of business.

We need reasonable gun laws but, as long as the lefts agenda remains the end of the 2nd amendment it is going to be a long hard slog.

It's always the left's fault. If it wasn't for the left, the right would impose reasonable gun laws!

What utter bullshit. What a detestable lie.


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and that is why so many moderates oppose reasonable gun laws. We know the hard left won't be happy until owning a gun or guns is banned. All the while the hard left exclaiming they aren't for banning gun ownership. Just like they do in San Francisco where the hard left regulated every gun store out of business.

We need reasonable gun laws but, as long as the lefts agenda remains the end of the 2nd amendment it is going to be a long hard slog.

Well at least you are consistently wrong. The rank and file of the NRA approves of reasonable gun laws. Yet the party that you appear to generally support won’t even bring, to borrow your term, reasonable gun bills to a vote. And you think it’s because they are afraid of the hard left, which you then revert to calling “the left”? They are afraid of losing money. Whether from the NRA or elsewhere it matters not. The Republican Party is bought and paid for by the NRA.

And btw, you are somewhat correct at least about me. If I had my way I would make sure nobody owned guns for any reason. The American people are childish, immature and not to be trusted with guns just like little children can’t be trusted with matches.

The rationale put forth by Jefferson and Madison is that men want guns in addition to overthrowing tyranny as well as fear of a standing army. Well, guess what just because someone wants something doesn’t mean they should have it. And the founders did not believe that the system they established would be overthrown due to tyranny. Finally, we have a standing army.

One more thing, Jefferson did not believe that rights were not subject to alteration.

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Riley: Michigan Senate loses its mind, votes to allow guns in schools and churches

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......Senate Majority Leader Arlan Meekhof, R-West Olive, who was among those who introduced the senate legislation, told the Free Press that a tragic mass shooting at a Texas church might have been deterred had responsible, armed gun-owners been around.

Or, Senator, rather than 26 dead and 20 wounded, there might have been more dead and more wounded.

Bullets do not have names on them, and shoot-outs with the mentally deranged perpetrators or terrorists on one side and well-meaning citizens on the other is a reprehensible recipe for disaster.

Moreover, since the United States refuses to legislate ways to ensure that all gun-owners are actually responsible, how can this legislation define it?

All this legislation would do is increase the number of bullets flying around the heads of children, parishioners, patients and drunk bar patrons. .......


when hero fetishes hold more weight than innocents being caught up in the crossfire.

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Riley: Michigan Senate loses its mind, votes to allow guns in schools and churches



when hero fetishes hold more weight than innocents being caught up in the crossfire.


Lake Orion Schools: Gunman at large was assistant wrestling coach at middle school

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A man wanted in connection to a shooting Tuesday night in Ortonville worked as an assistant wrestling coach at a middle school within the Lake Orion Community Schools district.

The district would not say at which middle school Michael Joseph Quigley was working. However, the district did say he was a seasonal coach and never worked as a teacher in the district.

Lake Orion Community Schools will be open but under a soft lockdown on Wednesday.

Quigley is considered armed and dangerous. Police believe he may be hiding in the woods near the scene of the shooting, which was.........

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Senators introduce bipartisan gun background check bill

A bipartisan group of senators is trying to strengthen reporting to the national background check system in the wake of a mass shooting in Texas earlier this month.

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Let's see how far it goes before the N.R.A. kills it.

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Two accidentally shot in church while discussing church shootings

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A man accidentally shot himself and his wife at an east Tennessee church on Thursday while he was showing off his gun during a discussion on recent church shootings, police said.

Elder members of First United Methodist Church in Tellico Plains were cleaning up about 1 p.m. after enjoying a luncheon held to celebrate Thanksgiving. They began talking about guns in churches, according to Tellico Plains Police Chief Russ Parks.

A man in his 80s pulled out a .380 caliber Ruger handgun and said, "I carry my handgun everywhere," according to Parks..........

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