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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:42 pm 
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It's a pretty simple question. Trump sided with a murderous KGB goon and questioned our intelligence agencies.

From Senator John McCain:

Washington, D.C. — U.S. Senator John McCain (R-AZ), Chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, released the following statement today on President Trump's comments about Vladimir Putin:

“President Trump today stated that he believed Vladimir Putin is being sincere when he denies Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election and reiterated that he hopes to cooperate with Russia in Syria.

“There's nothing ‘America First’ about taking the word of a KGB colonel over that of the American intelligence community. There's no ‘principled realism’ in cooperating with Russia to prop up the murderous Assad regime, which remains the greatest obstacle to a political solution that would bring an end to the bloodshed in Syria. Vladimir Putin does not have America's interests at heart. To believe otherwise is not only naive but also places our national security at risk.”


It's a serious question. Where do you stand? With America, or with Russia?

Is there any doubt left as to where Donald Trump stands? Why does he still have the nuclear codes?


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It's a pretty simple question. Trump sided with a murderous KGB goon and questioned our intelligence agencies.

From Senator John McCain:

Washington, D.C. — U.S. Senator John McCain (R-AZ), Chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, released the following statement today on President Trump's comments about Vladimir Putin:

“President Trump today stated that he believed Vladimir Putin is being sincere when he denies Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election and reiterated that he hopes to cooperate with Russia in Syria.

“There's nothing ‘America First’ about taking the word of a KGB colonel over that of the American intelligence community. There's no ‘principled realism’ in cooperating with Russia to prop up the murderous Assad regime, which remains the greatest obstacle to a political solution that would bring an end to the bloodshed in Syria. Vladimir Putin does not have America's interests at heart. To believe otherwise is not only naive but also places our national security at risk.”


It's a serious question. Where do you stand? With America, or with Russia?

Is there any doubt left as to where Donald Trump stands? Why does he still have the nuclear codes?

This only furthers the notion Putin has something on Trump and is using it to keep him-line.

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They dont care.

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In his mind? No. He is the greatest at everything, ever.

In actuality? That is something else.

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45 shared highly classified intelligence from an Israeli Intelligence Asset with two high ranking Russian Officials.

45 prefers to believe Putin over 15-Intelligence Security and Intelligence Agencies because those agencies are on record regarding the fact that Russia did in fact Interfere in the 2016 Presidential Election.

45 told Rodrigo Duterte, the President of the Philippines the location of two U.S. Navy Nuclear Powered Submarines.

45 attacked the Gold Star Parents of a U.S. Army Captain Killed In Action.

45 attacked the Gold Star Wife of a U.S. Army Sergeant Killed In Action.

Yes, 45 is a Traitor.

Question to the Republicans.

IF a Democratic President had done any of the above, you would be howling for Impeachment. Why are you rolling over on your back, kicking your feet up in the air over this? You people have wrapped yourself in the flag time and again. You deliberately accpet the morally reprehensible behavior of man whose claim to the White House is based on Russian Interference all because he is a Republican.

A Democrat who did any of this would be Impeached in a heart beat....but IOKIYAR.

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:arrow: Good question gounion. I have another question about Trump and his visit to the Philippines and his apparent exultation of Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte. This cringe-worthy celebratory meeting with an authoritarian who is a clear human rights violator was pretty awful to see being plastered all over the news media.

Trump wrongly claims Obama's plane didn't land in Philippines

President Trump on Tuesday mistakenly claimed that Air Force One under former President Barack Obama “never got to land” in the Philippines, a claim he made while touting “a very strong relationship” with the Southeast Asian nation.
“And as you know, we were having a lot of problems with the Philippines. The relationship with the past administration was horrible, to use a nice word,” Trump told reporters in Manila.
“I would say ‘horrible’ is putting it mildly. You know what happened. Many of you were there, and you never got to land. The plane came close but it didn't land.” "Clearly, he’s a colorful guy," Obama said at the time of Duterte.


Trump appeared to be referencing a meeting Obama canceled in September of 2016 with Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte. The two were supposed to gather in Laos, but Obama canceled the meeting after Duterte referred to him as a "son of a bitch.” "And what I’ve instructed my team to do is to talk to their Philippine counterparts to find out is this, in fact, a time where we can have some constructive, productive conversations.” Obama had visited the Philippines on several trips earlier in his presidency, and even signed an enhanced defense cooperation agreement with the country in 2014.

Trump in my opinion is a traitor and for many reasons, least of which is bad-mouthing our former President[s]and intelligence community on foreign soil. Then looking like he is enjoying himself with the worst authoritarian dictators around the world!

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The trouble with a "Q for the right" is they will most likely answer with today's disposable alt-facts.

Today's disposable alt-fact is that everyone EXCEPT the drumpf inner circle is treasonous. Our Attorney General is being fed leading questions by sympathetic GOP "representatives" even as we don't speak. The answers stop just short of saying this. Also, he seems to have a very poor memory. That always works for Republicans.

Duterte, by the way, considers journalists to be as dangerous as drug dealers, and he has been known to have them killed. He's quite the right wing hero in some places. He's always cited in the waves of portentous articles whose authors declare the death of "liberal democracy," whatever that is. Drumpf's kind of guy.

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:arrow: Trump feeds off the worst authoritarian people he could find because they give him all the attention he craves. He's given the red carpet treatment by Xi Jinping in China and wined and dined by Rodrigo Duterte in the Philippines, he doesn't even realize he is being played by Putin!!

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:arrow: Trump feeds off the worst authoritarian people he could find because they give him all the attention he craves. He's given the red carpet treatment by Xi Jinping in China and wined and dined by Rodrigo Duterte in the Philippines, he doesn't even realize he is being played by Putin!!

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If Trump is as traitorous as the left believes and after the midterms the Dems do nothing about it that will make them as traitorous as Trump.

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If Trump is as traitorous as the left believes and after the midterms the Dems do nothing about it that will make them as traitorous as Trump.

Too gutless to answer. Not surprised.


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If Trump is as traitorous as the left believes and after the midterms the Dems do nothing about it that will make them as traitorous as Trump.



This shouldn't even be about right versus left. This is about country and democracy. That's what's sad. You playing left vs right on this is extremely pathetic. You've made your bed.

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Too gutless to answer. Not surprised.


That is an answer just one you don't like. How do any of us know what trump is guilty of before the Mueller investigation has been completed. We all have opinions about trump and here they all paint him in a very dim light. You seem to be in favor of a fair trial followed by a hanging. The Mueller investigation seems to be moving along well and in a short time we will have our answers.

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That is an answer just one you don't like. How do any of us know what trump is guilty of before the Mueller investigation has been completed. We all have opinions about trump and here they all paint him in a very dim light. You seem to be in favor of a fair trial followed by a hanging. The Mueller investigation seems to be moving along well and in a short time we will have our answers.


Nobody needs any more fucking answers, glen. The Mueller investigation is a means to remove a deranged animal from the Oval Office.

We already know he's mentally unstable and a danger to the safety and security of the people of this country, including you glen, for christ's sake. You either agree with this or you don't and we all know what the answer to that is...or you wouldn't be defending him and making excuses and exceptions for him all fucking day long on this forum.

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glen continues to put Party before Country.

He defends and he supports 45.

glen knows that 45 betrayed the location of U.S. Navy Submarines and does not care....45 is a Republican and as long as a Republican did it....no harm no foul.

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/33496 ... -president.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nort ... SKBN18K15Y.

http://beta.latimes.com/politics/la-fg- ... story.html.

glen known that 45 share highly classified Human Intelligence from Israel with two representatives of Russsia and he does not care...45 is a Republcan and as long as a Republican did it.....no harm no foul.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/worl ... ussia.html.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... p-russians.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/05/19/isr ... ran-syria/.

Just think of what glen would be doing right now if a President from the Democratic Party had this....glen is a traitor and he does not care the harm done to this country.

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glen continues to put Party before Country.

He defends and he supports 45.

glen knows that 45 betrayed the location of U.S. Navy Submarines and does not care....45 is a Republican and as long as a Republican did it....no harm no foul.

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/33496 ... -president.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nort ... SKBN18K15Y.

http://beta.latimes.com/politics/la-fg- ... story.html.

glen known that 45 share highly classified Human Intelligence from Israel with two representatives of Russsia and he does not care...45 is a Republcan and as long as a Republican did it.....no harm no foul.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/worl ... ussia.html.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... p-russians.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/05/19/isr ... ran-syria/.

Just think of what glen would be doing right now if a President from the Democratic Party had this....glen is a traitor and he does not care the harm done to this country.


You guys are missing my point.

1] We have a special council that we can trust. While we all agree Trump is not a good person and is unqualified to be President lets let the special council do his job before we label Trump a traitor.

2] Both parties are going to do what is best for the party. You folks on the left have this Pollyanna vision that fresh air and sunshine flows from the DNC's backside. The DNC is going to do what is best for the DNC. Just as the GOP is going to do what is best for the GOP.

3] As for this question, it is a joke. It is presented and framed in a manner that there is only one acceptable answer. It has zero objectivity.

4] I am onboard with those who believe the DNC is going to have a very good midterm and general election. If they sweep into power I am looking forward to the excuses from the left as to why there is no impeachment after the midterm. Or why there is no criminal investigation after the general.

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:arrow: Indeed. ;)

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You guys are missing my point.

1] We have a special council that we can trust. While we all agree Trump is not a good person and is unqualified to be President lets let the special council do his job before we label Trump a traitor.

2] Both parties are going to do what is best for the party. You folks on the left have this Pollyanna vision that fresh air and sunshine flows from the DNC's backside. The DNC is going to do what is best for the DNC. Just as the GOP is going to do what is best for the GOP.

3] As for this question, it is a joke. It is presented and framed in a manner that there is only one acceptable answer. It has zero objectivity.

4] I am onboard with those who believe the DNC is going to have a very good midterm and general election. If they sweep into power I am looking forward to the excuses from the left as to why there is no impeachment after the midterm. Or why there is no criminal investigation after the general.




1. IC agencies have stated Russia absolutley interferred with the US election.
2. Trump refuses to say anything negative about Valdamir Putin. He constantly praises Vladamir Putin and attacks fellow Americans.
3. Trump refuses to implement sanctions passed by a overwhelming majority in congress, in order to appease Valdamir Putin.
4. Trump has now met with Putin several of times, and claims he believes Putin over his own IC.
5. Trump has dismantled the state department including the sanctions office.
6. Trump constantly attacks the media and the 1st ammendment.
7. People are already being indicted.
8. Wake the fuck up.

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8. Wake the fuck up.


This is what glen is like when he's awake. Can you imagine what it might be like when he's not awake?

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You gotta wonder what Vlad has on drumpf. It has to be even better than a golden shower tape. Like disclosure of financial affairs that would get him impeached, then charged and tried by NY state, and locked up for a good long time.

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There's a net meme which sums up poor Glen's predicament quite nicely. It says, in the usual large font that these things always use, "If you can't define socialism, just shut up about it."

Glen can't define socialism. It's just any liberal-leaning policy he disagrees with. It's also whatever Republican talk show hosts say it is. Glen is the poster boy for why I keep wishing real socialists would find a better name for it. The old one has been bent, folded, mutilated, stapled, spindled, and all those other things you didn't do to old Hollerith cards. It's kaput. For half the population, it's a synonym for Cambodia.

Of course, socialists have been trying to define socialism for a century now. They're not much closer, in the aggregate, than Glen is.

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drumpf met with Putin 3 times while he was in, appropriately enough, Vietnam. There are pictures. 3. Face to face.

That's at least twice more than he's met with the authorities in Puerto Rico.

This guy's on strings that go to Red Square.

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You gotta wonder what Vlad has on drumpf. It has to be even better than a golden shower tape. Like disclosure of financial affairs that would get him impeached, then charged and tried by NY state, and locked up for a good long time.

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There's a net meme which sums up poor Glen's predicament quite nicely. It says, in the usual large font that these things always use, "If you can't define socialism, just shut up about it."

Glen can't define socialism. It's just any liberal-leaning policy he disagrees with. It's also whatever Republican talk show hosts say it is. Glen is the poster boy for why I keep wishing real socialists would find a better name for it. The old one has been bent, folded, mutilated, stapled, spindled, and all those other things you didn't do to old Hollerith cards. It's kaput. For half the population, it's a synonym for Cambodia.

Of course, socialists have been trying to define socialism for a century now. They're not much closer, in the aggregate, than Glen is.

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drumpf met with Putin 3 times while he was in, appropriately enough, Vietnam. There are pictures. 3. Face to face.

That's at least twice more than he's met with the authorities in Puerto Rico.

This guy's on strings that go to Red Square.


Real Socialist have come up with a better name for it, Democratic-Socialist. I recently read an article that claimed since the rise of Sen Sanders the D/S Party has grown 400% with the average age dropping from over 60 to just over 30. While their numbers are still small the rhetoric from the far left is leading the movement. If they keep up a growth rate even close they will go from a small group of crackpots like Sen Sanders to a driving force in American politics in very short order.

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glen puts his Party (Ein Reich.....Ein Volk....Ein GroppenFuhrer) over his Country.

Even faced with the truth, glen would rather believe the lies of Fox News, Breitbart and Druge. He knows he is being lied to but does not not care.

The Reich Wing no longer cares about Country, only Party. The only thing that matters is der GroppenFuhrer.

Never mind that 15-U.S. Security and Intelligence Services are on the record for saying Russia Interferred in the Presidential Election, their man won and that is the only thing that matters.

der GroppenFuhrer takes the word of a Russian Dictator and former Colonel in K.G.B.

der GroppenFuhrer publically ridicules present for Directors of the Central Intelligence Agency. They do not know what they are talking about, only Putin is telling the truth.....and glen of course follows the der GroppenFuhrer and believes every word he says.

der GroppenFuhrer can publically cede power to a The People's Republic of (Communist China, and glen does not care. All Heil der GroppenFuhrer.

der GroppenFuhrer can tell a Foreign Head of State (The President of the Philippines) the location of U.S. Nuclear Powered Submarines and glen does not care.....Party over Country is more important than the safety and security of U.S. Naval Personnel.

der GroppenFuhrer can compromise Highly Placed Israeli Intelligence Assets inside ISIS and glen does not care.....Party over Country is more important than than the working relationship the U.S. has with an Ally State.

glen will complain about being called a Traitor, but it is clear as far as I am concerned that his unwavoring defense and support a man who would take the word of Russian Dictator over the word of Past and Present Intelligence Directors, a man who puts the lives U.S. Sailors at risk, a man who puts the lives of Intelligence Assets of an Ally State is NOT Man who loves his country. A Man who praises a Russian Dictator, a Man who publically encourages a Communist Country (Viet Nam) to buy U.S. Missiles.

But when it comes to HRC.....OMMFG!!!!!

BENGHAZI!!!!!EMAILS!!!!!URANIUM!!!!!BENGHANZI!!!!!EMAILS!!!!!BENGHAZI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

glen believed every outrageous, unproven lie ever written about HRC....

But he follows der GroppenFuhrer blindly, without thinking and without pause.

der GroppenFuhrer has boasted about Sexually Abusing Women...glen does not beleive that.....but Roy Moore is a liar pervert.

der GroppenFuhrer walked into dressing rooms where girls as young as 14-Years Old were NAKED......but Roy Moore is a liar and a pervert.

der GroppenFuhrer can perv out on a 10-Year Old Girl.....but Roy Moore is a liar and a pervert.

glen raves about the Great, the One and Only Ronnie god.....the Ronnie god and his party are dead as Jacob Marley and guess what glen....YOU HELPED KILL IT.

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glen puts his Party (Ein Reich.....Ein Volk....Ein GroppenFuhrer) over his Country.

Even faced with the truth, glen would rather believe the lies of Fox News, Breitbart and Druge. He knows he is being lied to but does not not care.

The Reich Wing no longer cares about Country, only Party. The only thing that matters is der GroppenFuhrer.

Never mind that 15-U.S. Security and Intelligence Services are on the record for saying Russia Interferred in the Presidential Election, their man won and that is the only thing that matters.

der GroppenFuhrer takes the word of a Russian Dictator and former Colonel in K.G.B.

der GroppenFuhrer publically ridicules present for Directors of the Central Intelligence Agency. They do not know what they are talking about, only Putin is telling the truth.....and glen of course follows the der GroppenFuhrer and believes every word he says.

der GroppenFuhrer can publically cede power to a The People's Republic of (Communist China, and glen does not care. All Heil der GroppenFuhrer.

der GroppenFuhrer can tell a Foreign Head of State (The President of the Philippines) the location of U.S. Nuclear Powered Submarines and glen does not care.....Party over Country is more important than the safety and security of U.S. Naval Personnel.

der GroppenFuhrer can compromise Highly Placed Israeli Intelligence Assets inside ISIS and glen does not care.....Party over Country is more important than than the working relationship the U.S. has with an Ally State.

glen will complain about being called a Traitor, but it is clear as far as I am concerned that his unwavoring defense and support a man who would take the word of Russian Dictator over the word of Past and Present Intelligence Directors, a man who puts the lives U.S. Sailors at risk, a man who puts the lives of Intelligence Assets of an Ally State is NOT Man who loves his country. A Man who praises a Russian Dictator, a Man who publically encourages a Communist Country (Viet Nam) to buy U.S. Missiles.

But when it comes to HRC.....OMMFG!!!!!

BENGHAZI!!!!!EMAILS!!!!!URANIUM!!!!!BENGHANZI!!!!!EMAILS!!!!!BENGHAZI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

glen believed every outrageous, unproven lie ever written about HRC....

But he follows der GroppenFuhrer blindly, without thinking and without pause.

der GroppenFuhrer has boasted about Sexually Abusing Women...glen does not beleive that.....but Roy Moore is a liar pervert.

der GroppenFuhrer walked into dressing rooms where girls as young as 14-Years Old were NAKED......but Roy Moore is a liar and a pervert.

der GroppenFuhrer can perv out on a 10-Year Old Girl.....but Roy Moore is a liar and a pervert.

glen raves about the Great, the One and Only Ronnie god.....the Ronnie god and his party are dead as Jacob Marley and guess what glen....YOU HELPED KILL IT.



That is bullshit as I am about the only person here who doesn't vote a strait party line ballot. I was pointing out as those here with even an average IQ knows is that both parties put their party over country. Mainly because they believe their party's views is what is best for America.

As for this loaded question it was written by a pro. If you answer yes Trump is a traitor the next question is why are you supporting the Party that backs a traitor. If you answer no Trump isn't a traitor, then you are branded as being a Trump supporter. Very good line of questions I am sure Uncle Joe would approve.

Another place you are lying is the claim that I was on board with the Benghazi crap as I never was.

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Like I care glen, like I care.

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Remind me glen, when exactly did Ronnie encourge Viet Nam to buy U.S. Missiles/U.S. Missile Technoloy?

Remind me glen, when exactly did Ronnie tell a foreign head of state the location of U.S. Navy Nuclear Powered Submaries?

Remind me glen, when exactly did Ronnie share Highly Classified Human Intelligence from an Ally State with Two High Ranking Members of the Soviet Union?

45 did each evey one of these things and you.....YOU defend and YOU support 45.

You glen....YOU defend and you support a Traitor and in so doing, you become a Traitor.

When did Ronnie put Party before Country glen?

When did Ronnie take the word of Russian Dictator, as I recall Ronnie said, "Trust but Verify".

When did Ronnie kick the U.S. Intelligence Community to the curb glen? When exactly did he do that?

You defend and YOU support the Man who did this glen.

45 is a Traitor and you defend and you support a Traitor and that you a Traitor.

The Party of Ronnie is dead and you helped kill it glen, rejoice and be most glad.

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