CNBC’s 2023 Top 10 Worst States to Work and Live

[Drak]

This list should be of no surprise:

- A critical nationwide worker shortage has companies locating and expanding in places where workers want to live, but culture war politics are complicating the equation.

- CNBC’s annual ranking of state business climates considers Life, Health and Inclusion as one of ten categories of competitiveness.

- The study measures quality of life issues including crime, health care, childcare and health care, as well as inclusive policies on discrimination and reproductive rights.

1. Texas
2. Oklahoma
3. Louisiana
4. South Carolina
5.Alabama
6. Missouri
7.Indiana
8. Tennessee
9. Arkansas
10. Florida

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/14/these-a ... rk-in.html

[Glennfs]

This list should be of no surprise:

- A critical nationwide worker shortage has companies locating and expanding in places where workers want to live, but culture war politics are complicating the equation.

- CNBC’s annual ranking of state business climates considers Life, Health and Inclusion as one of ten categories of competitiveness.

- The study measures quality of life issues including crime, health care, childcare and health care, as well as inclusive policies on discrimination and reproductive rights.

1. Texas
2. Oklahoma
3. Louisiana
4. South Carolina
5.Alabama
6. Missouri
7.Indiana
8. Tennessee
9. Arkansas
10. Florida

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/14/these-a ... rk-in.html

It also says New Jersey is the 3rd best state to live in....nuff said

[gounion]

It also says New Jersey is the 3rd best state to live in....nuff said

Places you hate. But hey, Chris Christie ran it, right?

[Glennfs]

Places you hate. But hey, Chris Christie ran it, right?

Again with hatred self projecting once again

[gounion]

Again with hatred self projecting once again

I don't hate New Jersey. You do.

[Glennfs]

I don't hate New Jersey. You do.

When Number6 sees that he is going to compare you to PeeWee Herman

[gounion]

When Number6 sees that he is going to compare you to PeeWee Herman

You're the one that can't make a cogent argument.

[ZoWie]

All these "best of" and "worst of" lists are meaningless without knowing their metrics.

From what I've seen, these vary all over the place. Sometimes it's economic, sometimes it's schools or employment prospects, sometimes it's crime, sometimes it's climate, sometimes it's retirement income. Pretty subjective.

[JoeMemphis]

All these "best of" and "worst of" lists are meaningless without knowing their metrics.

From what I've seen, these vary all over the place. Sometimes it's economic, sometimes it's schools or employment prospects, sometimes it's crime, sometimes it's climate, sometimes it's retirement income. Pretty subjective.

I agree. Even if you knew the metrics not everyone would agree on them or how they are weighted. All anyone can really know is whether the state is growing or shrinking and whether the people in that state are satisfied with their leadership. Every state is different. They all have their unique personalities. That is as it should be. Not everyone likes the same things.

[gounion]

I agree. Even if you knew the metrics not everyone would agree on them or how they are weighted. All anyone can really know is whether the state is growing or shrinking and whether the people in that state are satisfied with their leadership. Every state is different. They all have their unique personalities. That is as it should be. Not everyone likes the same things.

Yet YOU use them all the time. Doesn't bother you at all, does it?

[Number6]

This post isn't about which state is best or worst but the chart below shows the real GDP, as of 2022, by state. It's no surprise the states with most population would have the highest state GDP.

[JoeMemphis]

This post isn't about which state is best or worst but the chart below shows the real GDP, as of 2022, by state. It's no surprise the states with most population would have the highest state GDP.

I would agree with the statement that it’s no surprise the state with the highest population have the highest state GDP. That’s all a numbers exercise. Best versus Worse, as has been pointed out, is much less objective.

It might be interesting to see how those numbers are trending year over year adjusted for inflation. Also might be interesting to see the same numbers on a per capita basis.

[gounion]

I would agree with the statement that it’s no surprise the state with the highest population have the highest state GDP. That’s all a numbers exercise. Best versus Worse, as has been pointed out, is much less objective.

It might be interesting to see how those numbers are trending year over year adjusted for inflation. Also might be interesting to see the same numbers on a per capita basis.

Why? If they didn’t fit your narrative, you wouldn’t accept them anyway.

You say you’re pro-business, and that’s why you vote GOP. But Ron DeSantis first tries to take over the largest taxpayer and employer in his state, driving them to invest in California moving forward instead of Florida, and now he wants to have his state sue the maker of Bud Light.

It shows you really aren’t pro-business, since you won’t say a word against his actions. You’ll accept anything they do.

[Bludogdem]

Why? If they didn’t fit your narrative, you wouldn’t accept them anyway.

You say you’re pro-business, and that’s why you vote GOP. But Ron DeSantis first tries to take over the largest taxpayer and employer in his state, driving them to invest in California moving forward instead of Florida, and now he wants to have his state sue the maker of Bud Light.

It shows you really aren’t pro-business, since you won’t say a word against his actions. You’ll accept anything they do.

Disney sent the largest employer nor largest taxpayer n the state.

[ZoWie]

I sincerely doubt that we'll ever come up with an objective list of best vs worst states. It seems to depend on what's the best fit for a particular person or family.

The larger states are practically countries in themselves, and they have many different parts with vastly differing cultures. Also, some people will rank climate high, while others might go for low taxes or a booming job market.

Personally, I've been in a lot of the states, and I have my own personal list of ones I wouldn't mind chucking ungovernable CA for, and ones I wouldn't be caught dead in because that's probably how I'd end up. It's so subjective that I wouldn't pretend to rank them in any kind of objective way.

[Number6]

I sincerely doubt that we'll ever come up with an objective list of best vs worst states. It seems to depend on what's the best fit for a particular person or family.

The larger states are practically countries in themselves, and they have many different parts with vastly differing cultures. Also, some people will rank climate high, while others might go for low taxes or a booming job market.

Personally, I've been in a lot of the states, and I have my own personal list of ones I wouldn't mind chucking ungovernable CA for, and ones I wouldn't be caught dead in because that's probably how I'd end up. It's so subjective that I wouldn't pretend to rank them in any kind of objective way.

Anyone who has done extensive traveling or lived in different areas of the country and have experienced what that state or area offers has an understanding of why people choose to live where they do better than those with little or no traveling experiencing. Seeing different areas of the country on the TV through shows like The Jersey Shore or The Real Housewives of .... gets a distorted view of the area and its people.

[gounion]

Disney sent the largest employer nor largest taxpayer n the state.

Oh? They certainly are touted as that. Is Disney not the largest economic driver in the state? What would happen to Florida tourism if Disney left?

So why try to take the company in Florida over? Tell me why this is a good idea, and why it's a conservative thing to do.

Why do you "conservatives" all run away from this topic? Why are you such cowards?

[Bludogdem]

Oh? They certainly are touted as that. Is Disney not the largest economic driver in the state? What would happen to Florida tourism if Disney left?

So why try to take the company in Florida over? Tell me why this is a good idea, and why it's a conservative thing to do.

Why do you "conservatives" all run away from this topic? Why are you such cowards?

You’re the one touting them as the largest employer and taxpayer. Even Disney recognizes their tax impact is geographic.


No they aren’t. They are significant. Publix and Walmart dwarf them.

DeSantis obsessession withDisney is stupid.

[ZoWie]

DeSantis has an intuitive grasp of what will play to his core demographic. That makes him dangerous.

[gounion]

You’re the one touting them as the largest employer and taxpayer. Even Disney recognizes their tax impact is geographic.


No they aren’t. They are significant. Publix and Walmart dwarf them.

DeSantis obsessession withDisney is stupid.

Then why do you defend it? Because that's what you are doing.

I can guarantee that Disney brings more to the state economy that Publix or Walmart. But you can't figure that out, can you?

You pretend to be a moderate more liberal that conservative. But your silence or defense of all the stupid things the right does shows the truth.

Why don't you explain to Glenn and Joe why what DeSantis is doing is wrong. Because they sure don't think so.

[Glennfs]

Then why do you defend it? Because that's what you are doing.

I can guarantee that Disney brings more to the state economy that Publix or Walmart. But you can't figure that out, can you?

You pretend to be a moderate more liberal that conservative. But your silence or defense of all the stupid things the right does shows the truth.

Why don't you explain to Glenn and Joe why what DeSantis is doing is wrong. Because they sure don't think so.

So are there any other fascist beliefs you believe or is Disney having governmental powers the only one.

[gounion]

So are there any other fascist beliefs you believe or is Disney having governmental powers the only one.

They don't have governmental powers.

Why do you think DeSantis should take over Disney operations in Orlando?

Glenn, you don't understand how business works, it's plain. I've dealt with many other businesses with similar issues. Many manufacturers have their own fire departments, for instance. Their folks would be better trained in dealing with the specialty issues they have. Aircraft operators, for instance.

And thousands of other Florida businesses have similar deals to what Disney has.

So why should Florida take over Disney?

[Glennfs]

They don't have governmental powers.

Why do you think DeSantis should take over Disney operations in Orlando?

Glenn, you don't understand how business works, it's plain. I've dealt with many other businesses with similar issues. Many manufacturers have their own fire departments, for instance. Their folks would be better trained in dealing with the specialty issues they have. Aircraft operators, for instance.

And thousands of other Florida businesses have similar deals to what Disney has.

So why should Florida take over Disney?

CNN disagrees with you

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/21/us/reedy ... index.html

[gounion]

CNN disagrees with you

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/21/us/reedy ... index.html

As usual, you didn't read the article. There are hundreds of special districts in Florida.

So why should the government take over the business? Are you not a conservative?

[Glennfs]

As usual, you didn't read the article. There are hundreds of special districts in Florida.

So why should the government take over the business? Are you not a conservative?

There are no businesses being taken over. But, as long as you keep bringing it up there are many in congress and a few in the senate which do want to see the oil and gas industry nationalized. All democrats except for comrade Sanders who you claim is just like FDR

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/14/politics ... index.html

So I guess you are no longer going to vote democratic

https://energynow.com/2022/10/commentar ... erger/?amp

One more for good measure

https://www.vice.com/en/article/d3m3dx/ ... -utilities