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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:55 am 
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Such a powerful speech. Her name's being talked about for running for President.

Be assured that the right is now going through tapes of every show she's ever done, looking for things to smear her good name.

They fear her, and now work to destroy her. This is how the right functions.

Will it work? Well, it didn't work on Obama. But they'll try. Be ready for the right-wing forces of destruction to go after Oprah.


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Oprah certainly gives a great speech. But Oprah is a megalomaniac, of the same caliber as Donald Trump. Granted, with different ideology...but President? No thanks. I've had a gut full of megalomaniacal commander's in chief.

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RePuBliKlans would do a full blown shit fit if a Black Woman was Nominated for President. Oprah is a powerful speaker and a very strong presence, but that does not mean she should take a run at the White House.

We already have a person in the Oval Office who has no political experience and we do not need another one.

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I think Michelle Obama would be a good choice. I'd say she has all the experience needed. I also think she's way too smart to go anywhere near there.

PS - I believe she would win in a breeze.

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Isnt having one unqualified TV Star become president enough? Other than being Black, Female and Liberal what are Oprah's qualifications? One thing having Trump in office should have taught everyone is people who haven't spent their life in politics are not qualified to be President.

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RePuBliKlans would do a full blown shit fit if a Black Woman was Nominated for President. Oprah is a powerful speaker and a very strong presence, but that does not mean she should take a run at the White House.

We already have a person in the Oval Office who has no political experience and we do not need another one.


What do you suppose people on the left will say if and when Nikki Haley is part of the GOP ticket? At least one person here [ not you] have called her a race traitor.

We agree about Oprah's qualifications. However I do believe if she wants to contribute there are jobs she is qualified for.

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Isnt having one unqualified TV Star become president enough? Other than being Black, Female and Liberal what are Oprah's qualifications? One thing having Trump in office should have taught everyone is people who haven't spent their life in politics are not qualified to be President.

Then Bernie Sanders was qualified? How much bandwidth did you waste berating Sanders for not “working” for a living? It isn’t that I don’t agree re: political neophytes and the presidency because I do. It is merely intriguing. If you have changed your mind then good for you. Btw, conservatism or at least the current mutation thereof should automatically disqualify a person from being president.

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What do you suppose people on the left will say if and when Nikki Haley is part of the GOP ticket? At least one person here [ not you] have called her a race traitor.


Nikki Haley tries to pass herself off as white, while conservative whites like you tokenize her due to ethnicity and gender.

That said, what's she got to do with Oprah's speech last night?

Do you even know what it's about?

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I was glad for the speech because it's a rare moment in popular culture that we see the typical "tired feet/i have a dream" lazy depiction of the Civil Rights movement turned on its head.

Rosa Parks was a longtime activist with the NAACP before the infamous "tired feet" moment. She'd been involved in not only the Recy Taylor case but with Claudette Colvin, as well.

Look these names up if you haven't heard them before. I'm guessing that before last night, plenty of people still hadn't heard j.s. about them.

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Then Bernie Sanders was qualified? How much bandwidth did you waste berating Sanders for not “working” for a living? It isn’t that I don’t agree re: political neophytes and the presidency because I do. It is merely intriguing. If you have changed your mind then good for you. Btw, conservatism or at least the current mutation thereof should automatically disqualify a person from being president.



Bernie Sanders is qualified insofar that he has been involved in Gov't his entire life. What makes him unqualified is that he is a SOCIALIST.

Sanders' entire political career is a one off accident. Not unlike although much more successful as Jesse Ventura. Had Sanders not won that first election by an eyelash I don't know where he would have landed. As prior to that win he seemingly could not hold a job.

A good example would be my very good friend and childhood next door neighbor Russ Pry, who passed away last year. Rusty was an attorney who had been involved with local Democratic Party politics from the time he was a Freshman at Akron U. He became an attorney for the local Chemical Workers Union, then worked his way to become Chairman of the Summit County Democratic Party, then became Summit County Executive.

He was beyond outstanding at every job. He went from being a successful lawyer, to the being the best County Party Chairmen in the history of our county if not the state. Then went on to become the greatest County Executive probably in the history of County Execs anywhere. I almost forgot at age 18 he ran for and became a Village Councilman.

As opposed to Sanders' who was a failure and has been giving the exact same socialist speech for over 40 years. Sanders is a joke who does not deserve to be taken seriously. The only reason he is taken seriously is because of the internet and talk radio.

All you need to do is look at how Dennis Kucinich was disrespected by the DNC as opposed to the way they kiss Socialist Sanders' ass. You on the left should have gotten on the Kucinich bandwagon as his views are very far left and he is an accomplished politician who was also successful in his life outside of politics.

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Nikki Haley tries to pass herself off as white, while conservative whites like you tokenize her due to ethnicity and gender.

That said, what's she got to do with Oprah's speech last night?

Do you even know what it's about?




Nikki Haley another race traitor along with every person of color who isn't a left wing Democrat.

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Be ready for the right-wing forces of destruction to go after Oprah.


And it will be for three reasons:

blk
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And a fourth: not afraid of them. The combination of all four gives conservative whites a severe identity crisis. :lol:

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Such a powerful speech. Her name's being talked about for running for President.

Be assured that the right is now going through tapes of every show she's ever done, looking for things to smear her good name.

They fear her, and now work to destroy her. This is how the right functions.

Will it work? Well, it didn't work on Obama. But they'll try. Be ready for the right-wing forces of destruction to go after Oprah.

Oprah is good because she has the time, the intellect, and can articulate upon a single subject. That doesn't qualifier her to be president. She would have to address a number of topics to show she has an understanding of them to lend credence that she would be a competent president. Of course, being competent wasn't an impediment to Trump getting elected.

As for the right wing trying to destroy her, she has too solid of a reputation and following for the to do that. If they tried, they'd probably lose support among their own base than cause Oprah to lose support.

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Oprah is not going to run for president, why would she?

My $ is on Gillibrand running, whom I might vote for despite the Al Franken thing, and depending on who else is in the game. the Franken debacle is not enough to get me to not vote for her, considering her other policies and stances to this point, though I've seen a lot of bots and trolls threatening to leave the D party over it. Dumb idea...

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Oprah is not going to run for president, why would she?

My $ is on Gillibrand running, whom I might vote for despite the Al Franken thing, and depending on who else is in the game. the Franken debacle is not enough to get me to not vote for her, considering her other policies and stances to this point, though I've seen a lot of bots and trolls threatening to leave the D party over it. Dumb idea...

I was thinking Franken was going to run for president but that ship's now sunk. I won't support any candidate until the primaries begin in 2020 mainly because we don't know who is running.

As for trolls leaving the Democratic Party, chances are either they're not Democrats or most of them are just talk and will continue to support her.

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Rosa Parks was a longtime activist with the NAACP before the infamous "tired feet" moment. She'd been involved in not only the Recy Taylor case but with Claudette Colvin, as well.


Bingo!

I knew all about Rosa Parks, but it was great to have someone mention that she'd been an activist for many years before she didn't move to the back of the bus. I think she'd in fact been planning a civil disobedience on the bus for a long time, but there was no firm date. The story that something just snapped therefore has some merit. It's just that it wasn't the sudden historic "there but for fate" story of one brave woman of color all out of nowhere deciding she'd had it with Jim Crow.

But you knew that already. This is for people who might not have known.

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Oprah is not going to run for president, why would she?

My $ is on Gillibrand running, whom I might vote for despite the Al Franken thing, and depending on who else is in the game. the Franken debacle is not enough to get me to not vote for her, considering her other policies and stances to this point, though I've seen a lot of bots and trolls threatening to leave the D party over it. Dumb idea...



Gillibrand is definitely positioning herself to be on the ticket.

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Is it possible that this thread and it's flutter about Oprah is because of an NBC News official tweet?

"Nothing but respect for OUR future president. #GoldenGlobes pic.twitter.com/h4hkjewu0K"— NBC (@nbc) January 8, 2018

They've since deleted that tweet.

The talk about it's all the rage in Birmingham. Their's probably a run at the local dry goods stored on sheets. A shortage of dry lumber and kerosene.

I can see why right wing boards have discussion treads going on about it. Why do we have one?


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I think Michelle Obama would be a good choice. I'd say she has all the experience needed. I also think she's way too smart to go anywhere near there.

PS - I believe she would win in a breeze.


Can you list three things that make her qualified? Or two, maybe one?

1] does she have any executive experience

2] Has she ever held any elected office

3] In reality she has next to no qualifications to be President

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Nikki Haley another race traitor along with every person of color who isn't a left wing Democrat.


Don't distort what I said. I didn't call her a "race traitor", which is conservative white terminology for other whites who aren't conservative bigots such as yourself.

Being a race traitor to conservative whites can get you murdered by conservative whites. Ask Viola Liuzzo, if you're unsure about it...oh wait, she was murdered by conservative whties. So nevermind.

Nikki Haley registered herself as a white voter. Meanwhile, alt-right lites like you tokenize her as if you own her.

You are not permitted to own people anymore. Haven't you learned that in the past 150 years, or do you need yet another reminder?

By the way, Nikki Haley, typical dumb con, thinks there is a such thing as "Binomo" in the South China Sea. :lol:

Russian pranksters fool Nikki Haley in call about fake country - Rupert Post :problem:

Conservative whites peddle feckless incompetents like Nikki Haley, Ben Carson, Clarence Thomas because feckless incompetency is all you know. But because they are not white, this is "diversity," to conservative whites. :problem:

Conservative whites are the only people dumb enough to be succeptible to this form of flagrant tokenism. Critical thinking is not a part of your culture.

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The Golden Globes continue to mystify me. It's the most lightweight award show of the lot, but for whatever reason it's become a bigger deal than the Oscars. It has speeches setting the political tone for the year, protests like everyone in black, Internet political kerfuffles for weeks afterward, etc etc. Maybe because the award aspect of the show is a joke and everyone knows it.

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Don't distort what I said. I didn't call her a "race traitor", which is conservative white terminology for other whites who aren't conservative bigots such as yourself.

Being a race traitor to conservative whites can get you murdered by conservative whites. Ask Viola Liuzzo, if you're unsure about it...oh wait, she was murdered by conservative whties. So nevermind.

Nikki Haley registered herself as a white voter. Meanwhile, alt-right lites like you tokenize her as if you own her.

You are not permitted to own people anymore. Haven't you learned that in the past 150 years, or do you need yet another reminder?

By the way, Nikki Haley, typical dumb con, thinks there is a such thing as "Binomo" in the South China Sea. :lol:

Russian pranksters fool Nikki Haley in call about fake country - Rupert Post :problem:

Conservative whites peddle feckless incompetents like Nikki Haley, Ben Carson, Clarence Thomas because feckless incompetency is all you know. But because they are not white, this is "diversity," to conservative whites. :problem:

Conservative whites are the only people dumb enough to be succeptible to this form of flagrant tokenism. Critical thinking is not a part of your culture.



Nikki Haley successful two term Governor=incompetent
Ben Carson Top Brain Surgeon = incompetent
Clarence Thomas SC Justice = incompetent

Hmmmm some standard you have there. Basically any person of color who doesn't believe the way you think they should believe are incompetent. Regardless of their level of success.

I am guessing we could add Condi Rice and Sen Scott to that list.

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The Golden Globes continue to mystify me. It's the most lightweight award show of the lot, but for whatever reason it's become a bigger deal than the Oscars. It has speeches setting the political tone for the year, protests like everyone in black, Internet political kerfuffles for weeks afterward, etc etc. Maybe because the award aspect of the show is a joke and everyone knows it.



I have pretty much learned that most of those award shows are meaningless and those doing the voting simply do not have the time to view that which they are voting on.

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I think she did a good job campaigning for Obama in 2008 and 2012.

I hope she will do a good job campaigning for the D nominee in 2020.

I personally like her, and she's inspirational, but I'm in the have some political experience first before you hold the highest office in the land, camp.

She should talk about the issues and she should support movements like #metoo. Oprah herself is a victim of abuse, and she brings a personal perspective to this movement.

There's much she can do, and I appreciate her doing. Just not, I think, running for president.

P.S. I'm OK if she runs for a lower office first. She could make a great state legislator. (I am not digging on state legislatures by saying that. They have a role.) Maybe then, Congress.

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Bingo!

I knew all about Rosa Parks, but it was great to have someone mention that she'd been an activist for many years before she didn't move to the back of the bus. I think she'd in fact been planning a civil disobedience on the bus for a long time, but there was no firm date. The story that something just snapped therefore has some merit. It's just that it wasn't the sudden historic "there but for fate" story of one brave woman of color all out of nowhere deciding she'd had it with Jim Crow.

But you knew that already. This is for people who might not have known.


Most people don't know, and aren't interested, either.

The tired feet/I have a dream/content of character ice cream cone version of Civil Rights is deliberate. People are deeply invested in the idea that We don't/can't think about what we're doing, that there isn't literally 499 years of organizing against white conservative policy and social norms, that there isn't actual historic narrative that backs up that activism.

For all the legit critique of Oprah as a person, she did good last night.

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