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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:29 pm 
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The difference being that the Condor serves a useful purpose.

They feed off carrion so the republicans best be careful after this year's elections or they'll get a close up look at a Condor.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:12 pm 
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California Republicans refuse to address the 500-Pound Orange Faced Gorilla in the room. 45 did not carry California, and in turn he (45) punishes California for not supporting him.

The number of Women running for Office in California is setting record numbers. Blow Back from attacking immigrants and the Muslim Ban is having a serious effect on the once rock solid Republican Conservative Hispanic Vote.

Supporting Racist Policies is not exactly a really good a idea where the fastest growing segment of the State Population is Minority is kinda like leaning when your about punched in the face.

Staying course when you about to crash on the rocks....yeah that ticket....

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:36 pm 
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Once again, just on a point of clarity, although Bernie Sanders calls himself a socialist, he is really a Social Democrat.

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I'm not a political scientist, but we do have them at my university, and it pisses people off when they misuse various terms in the field. ;)

If you spend your life comparing political systems, the accuracy of the terminology is no more subjective than in any other area.


True. Sanders is a social democrat. He'd be at home in most European social democratic parties. He'd also have more impact, since the parliamentary system sometimes apportions power more fairly. Not always, but sometimes.

You certainly wouldn't see the Democratic Party trying to accommodate corporatists and social democrats with a single candidate, winding up with no one being especially happy.

The professor is likely aware that I have been a stickler for accurate terminology around here, sometimes to a fault. The problem gets more complicated with socialism, since the term has been thoroughly bent, folded, and mutilated over history. It's hard enough getting self-described socialists to agree on some pretty fundamental ideas, and of course there was a time when Hitler and Stalin were both using this label.

I think we can agree that modern, post-modern, and metamodern socialists want more nationalization of key industries, and more collective ownership of resources, and that's about it. The private property thing is more picky. Some of the more radical socialists throughout history have talked a big game on the desire to eliminate same, but no one ever really got there. Some got farther than others before discovering it didn't work.

Even though Sanders is a social democrat, we have a problem. If he started calling himself that, it would confuse Americans no end. It would accurately reflect the split in the Democratic Party, with social vs corporate democrats. Nevertheless, we are stuck with a rather antediluvian political system that just doesn't do nuance well.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:44 pm 
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The professor is likely aware that I have been a stickler for accurate terminology around here, sometimes to a fault. The problem gets more complicated with socialism, since the term has been thoroughly bent, folded, and mutilated over history. It's hard enough getting self-described socialists to agree on some pretty fundamental ideas, and of course there was a time when Hitler and Stalin were both using this label.


Well, yeah, there is that problem throughout history. National socialism never was ... this is why some fools keep describing the Nazis as left wing ... the Democratic Republic of Korea (North Korea) isn't democratic ... unfortunately, in the labeling of political systems, we can't always assume systems self-label themselves accurately.

I often point out the Nazis' began their regime by outlawing trade and labor unions and banning workers from striking. Unfortunately, the Communists in China have done the same thing. So, we may be back to that age-old "U" shaped model of politics.

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A perfect storm is building against Republicans in California.

http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch ... california.

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