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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:59 am 
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Yeah, there's a solution... :roll:

So, you think women are liars that are always falsely accusing men...

Arguing for the status quo. You're just worried about the men.


Glen made his opinion perfectly clear during the campaign. The Clinton accusers, 25 years down the road are pure as the driven snow...but the Trump accusers are all liars unless the semen is still running down their leg.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:50 pm 
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Michigan State University's answer to me too

Meet the new boss, Same as the old boss

Nassar survivor Rachael Denhollander 'beyond disappointed' by Engler choice

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The first woman to go public with allegations of sexual abuse by former MSU doctor Larry Nassar said Tuesday she is "beyond disappointed" with the selection of former Michigan Gov. John Engler as interim university president.

"I am beyond disappointed to hear this," Rachael Denhollander said in a Facebook post.

But Denhollander, 33, told the Free Press in an interview Tuesday she will reserve final judgment on Engler until she sees how he acts once he takes office.

"Engler is a deep political insider at MSU," she said in her Facebook post. "At a time the university desperately needs, and survivors pleaded for, outside accountability and leadership, the board chooses one of the most entrenched insiders."..............


before there was a culture that valued school reputation, schools wealth, and administrators personal security over all. now there is the same.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:43 pm 
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Disappointment and dismay expressed over John Engler as interim MSU president

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.........Perhaps more worrisome, Engler was in charge of the Michigan Department of Corrections when an estimated 500 female inmates were raped by guards. Eventually, the Justice Department had to get involved.

But it sounds like those skeptical, disappointed, and outraged voices are being heard in Lansing at the board meeting this morning. As a Twitter feed from R.J. Wolcott run in this morning's Lansing State Journal describes it, Dan Martel, an MSU senior with the group MSU Dems, said MSU doesn't need a politician as president.

According to the tweets, Martel said that students marched on Friday, demanding transparency and actions by trustees that restore trust, and instead, "What we got were shady backroom dealings, which resulted in the political appointment of a straight, white, wealthy male who is just conservative enough to keep our elected officials down Michigan Ave. pacified for a little while longer." At the end of the meeting, Wolcott noted, trustee Brian Mosallam "slammed his chair when he got up to leave the meeting, appeared visibly frustrated."

In short, it appears that Michigan's political fixers are trying to take control of the situation, determined to take the story out of the media and control the narrative. Is it too much to presume they'll also temper the search for justice with mercy toward their old friends and colleagues? After all, why should a housecleaning affect the livelihoods of party members in good standing?


MSU faculty leaders threaten no-confidence vote if Engler appointed interim president

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it will be whatever people make of it

careful what it becomes doesn't make our country into what we despise


We already know what the American people will make of it. We have learned from the last election, the continuing 40% support for pussy grabbing Donald Trump, and even higher levels of support for traitorous Congressional Republicans, that the country has already become what every American, if they extracted their fat head out of their self-absorbed ass, would already despise.

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We already know what the American people will make of it. We have learned from the last election, the continuing 40% support for pussy grabbing Donald Trump, and even higher levels of support for traitorous Congressional Republicans, that the country has already become what every American, if they extracted their fat head out of their self-absorbed ass, would already despise.


well I think it comes down to what you agitate for, if you agitate for injustice or to do away with a system of justice thats what you will get and conservatives will be happy to give it to you. If you agitate for justice or the system to live up to its purpose that will be a much harder thing to get but will be better in the end.

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Students interrupted the MSU Board of Trustees meeting this morning in protest as the board voted to name Former Michigan Governor John Engler as interim president............

videos at link

perhaps they have talked at people for so long they have forgotten how to talk to people.

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Meridian Township officials: 'We can be better' after mishandling 2004 Nassar complaint

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MERIDIAN TWP. - Holding back tears, Meridian Township's manager apologized to the woman whose 2004 sexual assault complaint against Larry Nassar was never forwarded to prosecutors.

“On behalf of the community, our police department, to you, Brianne, we failed you,” Manager Frank Walsh said. “We let you down.”

Walsh and Police Chief Dave Hall spent more than an hour discussing the 2004 case that might have stopped the disgraced doctor 14 years ago, as well as initiatives to prevent future mishandling of sexual assault cases.

"We know we can be better," Walsh, who was hired by the township in 2013, said. "We will be better and we are sorry that we were manipulated and deceived back in 2004.”

Watch the press conference at the top of this story.

At the age of 17, Randall-Gay approached Meridian Township police with concerns about a recent appointment with Nassar.............

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2004 was 14 years ago. How many others in that 14 years knew and did nothing?

So much for that stupid witchhunt cliche.

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2004 was 14 years ago. How many others in that 14 years knew and did nothing?

So much for that stupid witchhunt cliche.

No shit. The deck is stacked wildly in favor of powerful men. Too many men don't want that to change.


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well I think it comes down to what you agitate for...


Interesting. I think it comes down to the utter abscence of integrity in pretty much half the citizens of this country. In counseling sessions with some of the really hostile/malignant narcissistic males...after more struggling than I should have participated in, I would finally get to the point where there was nothing left to say to this sick fucker but, "Y'know Donald, until you are able to get your inside to start to match your outside, things are not gonna get any better for you."

It was never a very successful intervention with this kind of guy, but when it got to that point it was like what Dr. Lecter said about the murder of his patient, cross dresser Benjamin Raspail, "Best thing for him really, his therapy was going nowhere."

So now we pretty much have an entire country that's inside doesn't match it's outside. Can an entire country have a lack of integrity? It does appear so, when a country puts Donald in charge.

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This would be true had the country actually put The Donald in charge with a majority vote and malice aforethought. What I've been able to find out makes it look more like a lot of corrupt forces in the global business community converged with similar interests in the US to force a minority agenda upon the majority.

In other words, this country is depressing enough without arguing that it's gone full Nazi. All indications are that it hasn't. It got rat-fracked, then the shitheads all at once decided to have their 15 minutes of infamy. I mean really. That Tiki Torch march last year is pretty sad compared to Nuremberg and Triumph of the Will.

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2004 was 14 years ago. How many others in that 14 years knew and did nothing?

So much for that stupid witchhunt cliche.

that was go u

In Michigan been a huge temper tantrum by those in power over the least of our people having it too good. the result is this culture that they dont have too answer to the people and spend all the time legislating hurt and destruction.

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Police: Detroit woman made false sexual assault report

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Detroit police say they have determined that a Detroit woman who reported being a victim to a home invasion and sexual assault on the 14000 block of Woodmont Thursday morning filed a false felony report, according to a police news release sent Friday...........

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I guess that just proves that women are not to be trusted, right?


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Most men want the historical status quo, where they are believed and the women are called whores and gold-diggers. Where they have the power and can get away with anything.

So, they scream "lynch mob" when men are simple held to account for their actions.

Those days are over, and I'm happy to see it. I have no problem with it.

Some men want to prove that women should never be trusted. They argue for the status quo, where women are liars unless proven otherwise in a court of law, and men are always to be the ones believed.

It's a great status quo. If there are no witnesses, then no matter what, the men are the ones believed always, and the crimes can continue.

Ask Larry Nassar. 150 women were called liars. It went on for years.


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Some men want to prove that women should never be trusted. They argue for the status quo, where women are liars unless proven otherwise in a court of law, and men are always to be the ones believed.


Ever notice the people crying "due process" never want "due process" for the accuser? Whether it's one of their false accusers or the hundreds of actual victims of these men?

It's almost funny to me that these same people are quick to trot out stories of false accusations, but are seemingly -- incredibly -- very uninterested in "due process" for the world's most infamous false accuser, Carolyn Bryant. Almost funny.

We can hear a pin drop from the due process crowd on Carolyn Bryant. :problem:

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Glen made his opinion perfectly clear during the campaign. The Clinton accusers, 25 years down the road are pure as the driven snow...but the Trump accusers are all liars unless the semen is still running down their leg.



How about presenting some proof of that, or admitting that you are just another lying liberal.

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I guess that just proves that women are not to be trusted, right?



Do you have any personal knowledge of anyone you know having been falsely accused?

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Do you have any personal knowledge of anyone you know having been falsely accused?


How come you don't care about Carolyn Bryant?

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Glen made his opinion perfectly clear during the campaign. The Clinton accusers, 25 years down the road are pure as the driven snow...but the Trump accusers are all liars unless the semen is still running down their leg.



So says the man who calls women whores. Odd how not even one lefty said a word about that?

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So says the man who calls women whores. Odd how not even one lefty said a word about that?


How come Carolyn Bryant doesn't bother confederate white cons, oh-so concerned about due process and false accusations, all of a sudden?

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Do you have any personal knowledge of anyone you know having been falsely accused?

Yes. But I know far more women who were harassed - or worse - and the harasser got away with it cold. I know far more who made the charges and were called liars and gold diggers, and lost their jobs, while the harassers kept theirs.

The system is rigged against women and for men. You want to keep the status quo.


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Yes. But I know far more women who were harassed - or worse - and the harasser got away with it cold. I know far more who made the charges and were called liars and gold diggers, and lost their jobs, while the harassers kept theirs.

The system is rigged against women and for men. You want to keep the status quo.


They do not care for due process for those harassed, raped, assaulted, and brutalized.

They also do not care about the cultivated criminality of whites like Carolyn Bryant.

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How come it just so happens the people crying "due process" are also curiously silent about the accusations against Donald Trump?

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How come it just so happens the people crying "due process" are also curiously silent about the accusations against Donald Trump?

Because the accusers are women, and they don't give a damn about them.


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Because the accusers are women, and they don't give a damn about them.


Another element of this is that it's the same whackodoodle mentality that gets far more bent out of shape at being called racist than at actual racism.

They like actual racism, and intend to keep benefitting from it. Same for sexism.

Same pearl-clutching mechanism, same over-defense of the status quo. And far too often, same people.

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