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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:32 am 
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fuck this image shit, nothing will print out.
this however, shows what clear cutting does. all the tiny spindly 8" round toothpicks that take over
when the logging fuckers have taken ALL the big trees, ALL OF THEM.
those spindles dont stand a chance, not a Chance in Hell of EVER growing more than this toothpick shit.

welcome to BC. this land will Never see conifers again, not for 1000years.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 12:40 pm 
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British Columbia is being logged like you wouldn't believe. When it comes to exploitation, Canada is pretty much just like here. Their forests go away. Their oil tanks explode.

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Magnitude 7.3 earthquake shakes the northern coast of Venezuela, no tsunami threat

A magnitude 7.3 earthquake shook the coast of Venezuela on Tuesday evening, the United States Geological Survey reports.

The quake was centered near the town of Guiria, which is approximately 80km from Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago's capital city.

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canada has, at least, been replanting, actively replanting. 50million conifers they ran out of space to plant.
they were seeking places to plant seedlings. they did not find enough places to take the seedlings.
that didnt stop the replantings, but it did not help.
canada also has some conifers left that dont let the snows evaporate, the snows still MELT into the ground.

BC is fucked becuz the west coast of this continent is fucked. they got the drought, they got the
saps Not Running therefore they got the pine beetles running amok once the pine sap dries out and
stops running. the more the forests die off THE MORE THE SNOWS EVAPORATE INTO THE SKIES VS MELTING INTO THE GROUNDS ACROSS THE WEST the more rains you get back east vs rains across the west.

the density of conifer forests up there make this far worse than most places. Can has lost most of their
forests presently. its gotten hot up there and the saps have stopped running.
another 1000years for them to return to any usable fashion.

does Mayan ring a bell.

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Magnitude 6.3 offshore quake hits west of Oregon: USGS

An offshore earthquake with a magnitude of 6.3 hit 302 km (188 miles) west of Bandon, Oregon, on Wednesday, the United States Geological Survey (USGS) said. The quake was recorded at a depth of about 10 km, according to the USGS website.

No immediate tsunami warning was posted.

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Big oil asks government to protect its Texas facilities from climate change

PORT ARTHUR, Texas -- As the nation plans new defenses against the more powerful storms and higher tides expected from climate change, one project stands out: an ambitious proposal to build a nearly 60-mile "spine" of concrete seawalls, earthen barriers, floating gates and steel levees on the Texas Gulf Coast.

Like other oceanfront projects, this one would protect homes, delicate ecosystems and vital infrastructure, but it also has another priority: to shield some of the crown jewels of the petroleum industry, which is blamed for contributing to global warming and now wants the federal government to build safeguards against the consequences of it.

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We've had this discussion. Canada cannot be considered blameless as long as it depends on the Alberta tar sands project for much of that province's economy. For better or worse, the economic health of that province is pegged almost directly to the price of oil. When it went down a couple of years back, the boom in the oil patch turned to a bust. People lost jobs. Lots of people.

Along with being a risky way to base an economy, the project is even worse for the planet than drilling in the ground would be. It involves extreme strip mining, and it is so energy intensive that the net gain from refining the resulting heavy crude into fuel is not as great as one would think. And then you burn the stuff and get even more greenhouse gas. Lose-lose.

Far as forests go, yes, I realize that it is complicated and that the present problem is less about logging than about Arctic ice melt and general mismanagement. I'm the one that blew the whistle on that issue on this board, maybe a year or so after RFL started. This was after I looked out of the plane on the polar route back to L.A. and was downright shocked by what I saw. Or actually, didn't see. There should be pack ice in early May. There wasn't. All broken up and melting.

Now, I am told, it's gone.

Looking out of the plane is highly recommended for an understanding of what we're doing to the planet. You see things.

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7.1 Earthquake Near State Of Acre Brazil

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Stastically, we're way out there for 7+ earthquakes in a short period. Tides? Planet wobble? All Hillary's fault?

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Judge rules Dakota Access developer can't sue Earth First

BISMARCK, N.D.—A federal judge has dismissed a second defendant from a $1 billion racketeering lawsuit that the developer of the Dakota Access oil pipeline filed against environmental groups, leaving Greenpeace as the only remaining group facing the claim.

Texas-based Energy Transfer Partners failed to make a case that Earth First is an entity that can be sued, U.S. District Judge Billy Roy Wilson said in a ruling dated Wednesday.

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from earth...the planet Saturn is Highly visible this moon phase.
ive never seen Anything like this before, ive been seeing the literal "rings" of saturn all
week, and thru binoculars its been awesome.

for me its about the S sky, maybe now a bit SW sky ahead of the rising moon.
it will only last thru this moon rising. iirc.

way cool to see this with EYES, it is big.

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Iran earthquake: Two killed as strong tremors rattle Kermanshah

At least two people have been killed and at least 310 injured after a magnitude-6 earthquake struck western Iran.

The US Geological Survey (USGS) said Sunday's quake struck 26km southwest of the city of Javanrud in Kermanshah province, where more than 600 people were killed in an earthquake in November.

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Iran earthquake: Two killed as strong tremors rattle Kermanshah

At least two people have been killed and at least 310 injured after a magnitude-6 earthquake struck western Iran.

The US Geological Survey (USGS) said Sunday's quake struck 26km southwest of the city of Javanrud in Kermanshah province, where more than 600 people were killed in an earthquake in November.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/08/ ... 29102.html

Meh. They're just towelheads. Unless some Christians happened to get injured in which case flood the area with aid.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:51 pm 
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Mars, if anything, is getting brighter. It comes out the same time the moon does. It's not even really dark yet. It's like the way Venus gets, only red. 2000 years ago it would have started at least one war.

As you say, Saturn is amazing even through just binnies or a small telescope.

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Mars, if anything, is getting brighter. It comes out the same time the moon does. It's not even really dark yet. It's like the way Venus gets, only red. 2000 years ago it would have started at least one war.

As you say, Saturn is amazing even through just binnies or a small telescope.

the line up for this moon was.. W to E straight line...venus jupiter mars saturn. hardly saw
any other stars. then the moon rose and was in the center, between jupiter and mars.
the only bright bright one was saturn. venus was sorta bright jupiter was a dot mars was a
bit bigger dot with no color, just a spec in the sky in the correct position for this moon.

saturn on the other hand...really shone. really stood out. last nite it was way ahead of the full
moon, so dont know what to expect tonite.
glad i caught that star show and wrote down these positions a few days before the moon rose.
it was so bright last nite you could read a book out there.
summer nite skies are fun.

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Storm headed toward Colorado brings snow to Montana, Wyoming

KUSA — A storm system that could bring up to 8 inches of snow to parts of Wyoming by early Tuesday morning is headed toward Colorado … but don’t get your hopes up (if you’re hoping that winter to make an early cameo in the Centennial State).

A Winter Weather Advisory (yes, even though it’s technically still summer) was issued for parts of Montana and Wyoming until 6 a.m. Tuesday.

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Report: Nearly 3,000 deaths in Puerto Rico linked to Maria

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (AP) — An estimated 2,975 people died in the six months after Hurricane Maria as a result of the storm, with the elderly and impoverished most affected, according to a long-awaited independent study ordered by the U.S. territory's government that was released Tuesday.

The findings contrast sharply with the official death toll of 64, and are about double the government's previous interim estimate of 1,400 deaths.

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> Puerto Rico

What if they gave a Katrina and nobody came cared?


> Mars

Might be the smoke, but here Mars is bright red and competes with the full moon and city lights just fine. Its position from here is kind of towards the airport, and I mistake it for an airplane every time. It's about as bright as planets get, except for Venus. You can see that one in the day time sometimes if you know where to look.

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Earthquake hits TODAY MAP: California, New Caledonia, Fiji and Iran struck by HUGE quakes

A 7.1 magnitude quake rocked the South Pacific island of New Caledonia, based about 800 miles west of Fiji at 4.51am BST (2.51pm local time Tuesday).

It struck at a depth of 10km (six miles) about 372 km (230 miles) east of the island’s capital Noumea.

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Way too many magnitude 7+. Mostly in the Pacific. Did whatever's happening also cause the volcano in Hawaii?

The one in CA was a 4.4 and many subsequent aftershocks on a known fault near the San Gabriel Mountains. It was felt in most of SoCal.

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A big new archaeological study found exactly the evidence of overpopulation that rainwater noted. There were a lot more Mayans than originally believed. Then a drought did them in.

One would tend to suspect deforestation as part of the process.

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drought wasnt the cause, it was the inevitable outcome of deforesting the entire area of central america.
this is just one neighborhood, the mayan one. there was also heavy large populations in other
immediate areas up thru todays mexico and all down to panama. they all cut trees down.
this went on for a couple thousand years bringing the Eventual Droughts that took them all out.
like the one now in Australia where theyve had to shoot all the starving cattle, and where they
now cant grow crops.

every land mass near Australia that sent weather to Aus has no weather now since being
clear cut and deforested. Aus will now see the worst of dry weather for indefinite "future".
indonesia, Aus, have no weather to send across the pacific to the merica's. nothing but drought.

..the earth is 100% affected by earth.
one area after another falls to deforestation and its ensuing droughts.


https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science- ... -30863026/
Why Did the Mayan Civilization Collapse? A New Study Points to Deforestation and Climate Change
A severe drought, exacerbated by widespread logging, appears to have triggered the mysterious Mayan demise
By Joseph Stromberg smithsonian.com August 23, 2012


https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/Maya
Mayan Deforestation - NASA Earth Observatory August 24, 2004
Around 800 A.D., after two millennia of steady growth, the Mayan population reached an all-time high. Population density ranged from 500 to 700 people per square mile in the rural areas, and from 1,800 to 2,600 people per square mile near the center of the Mayan Empire (in what is now northern Guatemala). In comparison, Los Angeles County averaged 2,345 people per square mile in 2000. Yet by studying remains of Mayan settlements, Sever found that by 950 A.D., the population had crashed. “Perhaps as many as 90 to 95 percent of the Maya died,”

Mayan Deforestation--
Before its collapse, the Mayan empire stretched out from its center in northern Guatemala’s Petén region across the lowlands of the Yucatán Peninsula. Pollen samples collected from columns of soil that archeologists have excavated across the region provide evidence of widespread deforestation approximately 1,200 years ago, when weed pollen almost completely replaced tree pollen. The clearing of rainforest led to heightened erosion and evaporation; the evidence of the erosion appears in thick layers of sediment washed into lakes.


https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 113055.htm
Science News from research organizations
Carbon reserves in Central American soils still affected by ancient Mayan deforestation--
Finding underscores potential impact of soil management on future greenhouse-gas levels
Date: August 20, 2018
Source: McGill University
Summary:
Deforestation is suspected to have contributed to the mysterious collapse of Mayan civilization more than 1,000 years ago. A new study shows that the forest-clearing also decimated carbon reservoirs in the tropical soils of the Yucatan peninsula region long after ancient cities were abandoned and the forests grew back.
Populations in densely forested regions often rely on slash-and-burn agriculture. At first glance, this might seem like the approach the Maya used, but Sever doesn’t think so. “In slash-and-burn agriculture, people clear the land to plant corn, for instance,” he said. “They get 100 percent productivity the first year, 60 percent the next year, and something less than that afterwards. So in three to five years, the land is basically useless, and they have to move on.” In a sparsely populated region, slash-and-burn agriculture might work, but Mesoamerica around 800 A.D. was one of the most densely populated areas in the pre-industrial world.
... “But I showed them that the Mexican border really wasn’t that far away, and that Mexico’s side had been completely deforested.


Here is why migration from guatemala is large.
http://www.theyucatantimes.com/2015/01/ ... -collapse/
Why Did the Mayan Civilization Collapse?
By Yucatan Times on January 2, 2015
A new study points to deforestation and climate change.

They knew their environment and how to survive within it—and still they continued deforesting at a rapid pace, until the local environment was unable to sustain their society.

One of the lessons of these complementary studies, says climate modeler Robert Oglesby of the University of Nebraska, who worked on the second paper, is that our reshaping of the environment can often have unintended consequences—and we may not have any idea of what they are until it’s too late. For a present-day example, we can even look to another region where the ancient Maya lived, Guatemala, which is undergoing rapid deforestation. “There’s a tremendous amount of change going on in Guatemala,” said Oglesby. “They may be that much more vulnerable to a severe drought.”


http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/06/14 ... emala.html
Drought heightens seasonal food scarcity in Guatemala - Fox News
A prolonged drought has worsened the hunger problem among Guatemala's heavily indigenous population.

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Fond du Lac County communities wake up to storm cleanup, states of emergency declared

FOND DU LAC - Multiple communities woke up this morning to the grim task of storm cleanup after devastating winds, driving rain, flooding and reported tornadoes laid paths of destruction across Fond du Lac County.

Governor Walker declared a state of emergency for Fond du Lac, Juneau, La Crosse, Monroe, Vernon and Washington counties Tuesday afternoon after severe storms and flash flooding continued to impact the state.

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Did you feel it? Lake Tahoe earthquake measures 4.1

A magnitude 4.1 earthquake was recorded near the northwest shore of Lake Tahoe at 3:08 p.m. Thursday.

The magnitude report is preliminary.

https://www.rgj.com/story/news/2018/08/ ... chromepush


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Did you feel it? Lake Tahoe earthquake measures 4.1

A magnitude 4.1 earthquake was recorded near the northwest shore of Lake Tahoe at 3:08 p.m. Thursday.

The magnitude report is preliminary.

https://www.rgj.com/story/news/2018/08/ ... chromepush


I didn't feel it or hear it. Around here we hear earthquakes, they make a booming off in the distance kind of noise.

A 4.1 is kind of small. I would hear and might even feel one of that size if it were as far south as Bishop, which I suppose is about half way to Lake Tahoe.


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